Fat people can't be healthy

they are not healthy, however that shit is fun to watch and they are really strong

Because they train for strength.

They really don't, actually. They train and eat like shit. Within the same weight classes, any powerlifter would beast any Sumo wrestler.

Kek. Powerlifters are massive pussies. Every time a powerlifter fights anyone they get their asses whooped. Boxers, FEMALE MMA fighters, Crossfitters, street fighters, drunk jocks... a sumo would push a powerlifter down like a toy.

Because most of that isn't fat. There is a SHITLOAD of muscle under all that flab, like a walrus or some shit.

Watch the way Sumo wreatlers train. Lots of bodyweight squats and carbs. No attention to any form of adaptation physiology. Just ancient horseshit traditions and blindly accumulating fat mass. Which is an incredibly dumb idea in a strength-oriented competition with weight classes where lean mass would serve you better and fat mass would serve to just bump you up a class unnecessarily.

>Every time a Powerlifter foghts anyone they get their asses whooped.
Do you consider the things you say before you say them? That's pants on head retarded. Strength may be less valuable in a fight than the skills an actual fighter. Sure. But Sumo wrestling is about exerting force to move mass. And within the same weight classes, a person who barbell strength trains WILL ALWAYS beat a fat shit who does bodyweight squats and values carbs more than protein.

There's a pretty big cross over between judo and sumo techniques m8. It's not simply a matter of push the other guy.

I'm having a hard time seeing how a 400 lbs man who bench presses 700 lbs and squats 900 lbs doesn't plow right through a 400 lbs man who does bodyweight squats with his hands resting on his knees to help support himself. I concede that I may be way underestimating the technical aspects but if Eddie hall can deadlift 500 kg from 9 inches off the floor then then he can pick up absolutely any sumo wrestler by the diaper with no effort at all and walk him out like a child.

Same reason eddie hall cant deadlift an ncaa wrestler or national level judoka
m.youtube.com/watch?v=1lO-jaIX-j0

A thinner Sumo did really fucking well a few years back
youtube.com/watch?v=jcnMiRCVL18

Chiyonofuji was one of the most dominant yokozuna ever
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They die at 50, or slim down around 40 to gain 20 years of life expectancy on average. It's cruel in a 80+ life expectancy like Japan.

>implying sumo wrestlers are healthy
They are strong though, no one can deny that.

My guy, sumo wrestlers are as fast as pro athletes after they start to run. They quickly lose speed only seconds after starting though. Their legs are incredibly strong.

Glutes for the sloots

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Sumo only have a small layer of fat, they're almost entirely muscle (and huge genetically)

Traditionally they're on a diet of beer, rice, and naps.

>hurrnnrumrnrurm strength win always
When will you FUCKING RETARDS learn that your "muh big 4" strength matters fuck-all when someone throws you over their shoulders and starts hammer pounding your stupid fucking gabber in?
youtube.com/watch?v=ZbSpGgC-WlU

>healthy
Sumo wrestlers die early deaths, their association had to start discouraging some of the things they do because of how low their average lives were.
Turns out what's most effective in specific sports isn't the key to longevity. Who knew?

You might as well say
>I'm having a hard time seeing how a 400lbs man who bench presses 700lbs and squats 900lbs doesn't plow right through that manlet Mike Tyson

>with weight classes
I thought professional sumo didn't have weight classes.

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Sumo wrestlers are a subspecies of bloatlords. They have adapted to fight other bloatlords.

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I never understood why these guys have to be fat, can't they just cut and be in a lower weight class?

Sumo doesn't have weight classes so it's actually advantageous to bulk up

Besides tradition, sumo has wins by ring out. If you weight more, you are harder to movie, and since Sumo has no weight classes, there's no downside in dieting down. Weight is a huge advantage, which is why boxing and MMA have weight classes

chanko nabe is a hell of a soup

Don't say stupid shit

Weight classes are only in pussy """"""sports""""""

>and a third of them get months-long knee or ankle injuries despite never getting hit below the chest.
Most injuries aren't from that. They're from your foot staying planted while the rest of your leg/knee/whatever goes in a different direction.

t. broke my leg in high school wrestling doing that

Alright, so there's more technique involved than most people think. But why don't sumo halls hire modern strength coaches and pair that skill with insane strength?

fuck me, that's some amazing tecnique

they are really fucking strong, even though they aren't doing moderm training nobody was doing it 1000 years ago and there were still swole people.

if you are curious I found a very short video
youtube.com/watch?v=CCxiB39oAVw

wow!

their body fat is fundamentally different than the normal obese person
youtu.be/GUrzBKVvvDY

Sumo wrestlers aren't fat, they are permabulkers

well, they do lift

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Indeed I may very well be underestimating the skill level required for sumo wrestling.

Exactly but that's a man who doesn't weight himself down with unnecessary fat mass that serves no purpose other than bumping him up a weight class. I accept that skill is more important than I'd thought even in sumo, but that doesn't change that their traditional training, meaning accumulating as much fat mass as possible, eating mostly carbs and drinking lots of beer and then doing bodyweight squats with their hands on their knees, is fucking garbage training. If these guys put that same energy into barbells and whey and emphasized technique however much they already do, they would dominate the sport. Why don't powerlifters get into sumo?

Nobody said strength wins always. I said here that I didn't think strength was more important than technique or experience in a combat sport, and also admitted here that I was open to the idea that I had underestimated the technical aspects of sumo. Pay attention.
Also sumo is not a striking contest.

No, that's not even close to an equivalent statement. There's no striking in sumo. You people argue like teenagers. Collect yourselves and try to base your statements in some kind of reality.

It looks fun to practice, although I wouldn't follow their diet

youtu.be/aOH8oGCKFZk

>sumo training
>fun
You are treated as a lesser human being when you start out and continue to be treated as trash until you reach salaried ranks. The "hazing", actually higher ranks taking out their frustrations by beating lower-ranked members, causes people to run away from their stables or be killed outright.

I'd love to see some strongmen like Eddie Hall or Hafthor do a showcase or something. The strongmen ought to be much stronger (duh), and generally athletic and less prone to injuries because they have a more varying training approach.

If anyone has a video or something related drop it on me.

is that a japanese bloat lord?

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Generally someone who lifts will be stronger than a sumo wrestler of their weight, but sumo is deceptively more about technique than about pushing harder. Like any martial art, guys who lift can't just walk into it and beast but people who are beasts at the art would absolutely benefit from lifting.

I Dig their haircuts

Lmao1pl8

they die at like 40. japanese take things and run with it a lil too hard sometimes.

>Chiyonofuji
died @ 46

God, reminds me of my knee injury. I played football in highschool and planted my foot to pivot. My entire body turned 90 degrees, except for everything below the knee. Tore my meniscus. Thank fuck I was young enough for it to mostly heal.

LOL at the fag with the unironic Che Guevara tattoo

Was that the soup they eat

>people

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Tradition plays a huge role in sumo. It's not a matter of which stable has the best coach, more who best embodies sumo.

It's similar with judo. Most well respected japanese judoka would rather lose going for ippon than win gaming points

>powerfat delusion

For sure. I know it's got its own techniques, but still. I'd settle for a pro sumo who actually incorporated some strongman/some kind of lifting into his training. But those hyper-traditional Japanese coaches are probably not adventurous enough (or afraid of getting shit on for messing with muh tradition) to get their athletes to do it.

Idk. I'm just spit balling here.

youtube.com/watch?v=O4EirVa3tAw

61 fag. From pancreatic cancer

Their bodyweight squats probably weigh more than a large amount of powerlifter squats ngl.
They're bit boys afterall

so same as me

Just googled Phidippides

Based Phidippides

This may or may not be applicable to sumo, but in boxing there's a saying if two equally skilled guys fight, the bigger guy will win.

gotta eat big to get big c'mon

The beginning of "healthy at every size" propaganda.

True to a degree. Chiyonofuji was small by sumo standards and had a huge run as yokozuna. Weight is certainly a factor but skill is generally a bigger impact unless the disparity is absurd

Found the bloat lifter

>YOU HAVE TO RIVE IT DESU!

wish i was good at cooking, made this last night but it tastes like poopoo

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>Thus, having the highest possible relative strength should be your primary concern, rather than the greatest absolute strength. This, of course, flies in the face of the conventional online wisdom that "he who lifts the most wins", as anyone who's not a sloppy fucking mass of adipose tissue would be far more impressed with a stupendous lift by a guy with visable musculature than they would with a Louis Cyr lookalike's world-shattering lift. This is why everyone shits their pants about Stan Efferding, Joe Ladnier, and Matt Kroczaleski when there's a new record broken in the squat by a different circus fat man every 45 minutes. This is also the reason why most of you know who 170 lb Bulgarian Olympic Ivan Stoitsov is, and have seen his pic a thousand times, but have no idea who Tatiana Kashirina is, in spite of the fact that she probably clean and jerks what you deadlift.
>If you're wondering why no one knows the name of a fat Russian chick who holds the world record in the clean and press and the snatch (a chick who probably outlifts the vast majority of us on just about everything), don't. Fat people aren't really people- they're placeholders where people should be. No one wants to look at them, strong or not, nor be around them long enough to locate their genitalia and fuck. They look like shit, wheeze when they breathe, and are in mortal danger of stroking out when doing anything other than doing a single repetition on one of their pet exercises or eating. This doesn't change much when a fat guy or girl picks up something heavy- we expect them to be able to do so when the object they're lifting is a fraction of their bodyweight, no matter how heavy that object is. Thus, if really doesn't matter that a fat person is all that strong.
>plagueofstrength.com/what-exactly-is-ideal-to-cut-or-not-to/
>plagueofstrength.com/you-can-be-strong-as-fuck-or-ripped-to/
>plagueofstrength.com/the-last-couple-decades-werent-jus/

>plagueofstrength.com/powerbuilding-2-its-not-just-abou/

no one starts out good at cooking. you learn from your mistakes and then try again. don't give up!

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We're talking about based sumo. Fuck off you autistic faggot

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Relative strength is manlet cope

Its worth noting that faking an injury, or more often over exaggerating the severity of a minor injury, is the polite way of failing to turn up to a tournament where you think you will do poorly.

youtube.com/watch?v=B2qCBkXrb8s

10 years younger than the Japanese average is still higher than American average LUL

Dude....
Sumos fucking CLOCK each other
youtube.com/watch?v=wItb9Jsn38k

The Mongol cunts are way better than Japanese. Japanese cucks let Mongs into their sport and now they're getting dominated. They restrict 1 Mong to a stable, otherwise they fear Sumo is all taken over my the Mongs. Just look a Hakuho that Mong cunt doesn't even have bitch tits compared to nearly every other Japanese Sumo and they're bitch tits galore. Japanese genetics can't hold their hormones properly at higher bf% and turn into bitch tits.

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That dude was a fucking monster

Why do you lie? What a weird lie. Are you Jewish?

>I'm having a hard time seeing
Maybe do some research instead of spurting out the first shit that comes to your brain