/fast/ - #368 - REJECT TEMPTATION EDITION

i'm answered this to another brother in last thread, here's all you need:

Relatively new to /fast/. I’ve been doing 23 hour fasts for two weeks now. Currently the biggest concern I have is my workout while fasting schedule. I usually work out around 5am but don’t eat till 5pm. I’ve read all sorts of responses to this. Protein/eating after workout is broscience myth, I should eat something/drink my protein shake, I should move my workout (not really possible atm), I should move my meal (not really possible atm), some claims that people have made more gains with OMAD diets despite how long after their workout they eat, some claims say they break their fast after the workout and then start fasting again (I may be uneducated on the subject but that no longer sounds like fasting if you break the fast). I’ve been working out for 5+ years so I feel pretty confident in my workout. I also do two days of HIIT a week. I’m not a dietitian, nutritionists, or anything of the sort that is why I’m asking questions. Feel free to ask me any details that would help better answer my question. So, is it counterproductive to leave a 12 hour window between my workout and my meal.

I'm doing it this time boys, I've been here since March last year and haven't lost an inch. Haven't gained anything either but that's not something to celebrate. I'm gonna fast for 30 fucking days until my birthday on February 21, I don't wanna be a >100kg lardass on yet another birthday.

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Don't be an idiot. Do OMAD first, get that down, make it a habit. If that's too hard to intermittent until you've shaved it down to OMAD. After that do one meal every other day. After that do one meal every third day. If you try to do a 30 day fast without having any experience fasting, you're most likely going to fail. You need to train your willpower by progressively ramping it up.

or do like me and go straight from being a fatty to a 2 day dry fast followed by a prolonged water fast that's still going

day 2/3 of fast is gonna suck a little pretty much no matter what, might as well get it over with

If he's been since March and hasn't done anything yet, then he has weak willpower. He needs to train that and the best way to do that is to do it progressively.

I'm not new to this, only reason I failed was because I didn't want to endure going without the taste of food. I'm fat adapted and never get hungry or tired on fasts. It was always about boredom and missing the taste of food.

>I failed was because I didn't want to endure going without the taste of food
You failed because you lack willpower and you'll continue failing unless you train you willpower.

It's not about willpower, it's about intent. No need to waste willpower resisting things if I start off with a firm intent to do something.

>It's not about willpower
You're a fool who hasn't actually tried anything but likes to believe he understands what he's talking about. It doesn't matter what you "intend", it matters if you're capable of enduring. But go ahead and do what you want, just don't be surprised when you inevitably fail.

Alright, that's your way. Glad it works for you.

Highly appreciated user! There is no excuse anymore,

>How do I avoid a surprise nasty shit?
NEVER TRUST A FART.
>And my forearms are less vascular than they were when I was eating what gives?
DEPLETED MUSCLE GLYCOGEN.

NOW SPREAD THE FUCKING WORD.

FIND ONE.

LET'S SAY YOU HAVE ZERO MUSCLE GLYCOGEN, YOU CARB LOAD AND REFILL ON THAT MUSCLE GLYCOGEN, NOW YOU HAVE EXPLOSIVE ENERGY AT THE GYM.
IF YOU CONSUME MORE CARBS THAN YOUR BODY CAN HOLD, SPILLOVER CAN OCCUR AND CARBS ARE THEN CONVERTED TO FAT (THIS PROCESS IS CALLED DE NOVO LIPOGENESIS).
THIS ALSO HAPPENS WITH LIVER GLYCOGEN BUT AT A MUCH EARLIER POINT, SINCE LIVER CAN ONLY HOLD 100G OF SUGAR WHEREAS MUSCLE GLYCOGEN CAN HOLD 300-500G.
DEPENDING ON HOW HARD YOU HIT THE GYM, YOU MIGHT NEED TO CARB LOAD TWICE A WEEK.

DEPENDS ON YOUR STATS AND BMR. THE AVERAGE IS 1LB OF BODY FAT PER DAY.

>little endian dates
Get on that ISO.

Does doing HIIT while fasted provide beneficial results?

stop screaming. ;_;

FOR SOME REASON THIS QUESTION GETS ASKED EVERY NOW AND THEN. I'M SAVING THIS POST FOR FUTURE PURPOSES.

>So, is it counterproductive to leave a 12 hour window between my workout and my meal.
IN TERMS OF BURNING FAT, I DON'T THINK SO. IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH ENERGY TO HIT THE GYM AS YOU NORMALLY WOULD, I WOULDN'T STRESS ABOUT THIS SHIT, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE GETTING THE RESULTS YOU WANT WITH OMAD.
DID YOU INCREASE YOUR PROTEIN/CALORIC INTAKE THOUGH?

GOOD LUCK. IF YOU ABSOLUTELY NEED YOUR STUPID FAT FUCKING REFEED, KEEP IT CARNIVORE AND NO MORE THAN 1 POUND. IF BEING FAT IS YOUR PURPOSE, THEN YOU WILL ULTIMATELY FAIL. STOP BEING A BITCH.

How long should it take to lose 3-4kg of fat? I'm currently 94kg 195cm about 15% bf (calculated from ankle waist wrist hips neck etc)

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Tfw no muscle thighs gf that can choke you with her legs every night until you pass out.

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Are you me? Almost same stats in the same timeframe, but I'm inching closer to 14%
We're all gonna make it

Like a week.

>tfw drinking sugar free monsters
>tfw they were actually breaking my fast

Drink your snake juice and stare at the wall like a good boy!

You don't really have to drink that much snake juice if you're extended fasting and live a sedentary lifestyle right? 500ml a day should be just fine?

And when I break my fast at the 96 hour mark with a chicken breast I shouldn't experience any complications due to the snake juice correct?

I've' been fasting 3-7 days randomly for the past month. 2 7 day fast, 1 5 day fast, and a 3 day fast. Eaten maybe 5 or 6 times in a little under a month. Ive had days where Ive eaten maybe 3000 calories. Maybe straight junk food. I've cheated by drinking calorie free drinks (on like 5 days). But Ive also loss 25lbs in about 27 days. Which felt like an impossible goal before. Its too cold to run and bike. And I got so heavy that running was too hard. But Now Im only 15lbs away from my goal.

Reasking

Could I get away with a 5 day fast during a manual labour job? I don't want to fuck my shit up and get a heart attack while attempting to lift something.

Probably. Cole does snake juice fasts and does a lot of exercise so you should be fine, but maybe you should ease into it with some shorter fasts.

wrong

cole also drinks his own piss and probably ate his shit too at some point

>Had to beat myself up to not eat food a couple days so far
>Food smells disgusting now
>Cheese is so pungent
>Turkey smells like cat food
>Woke up to a chicken in the crockpot, stomach hates it, and it's revolting, actually woke up from this
>Got to the day where masturbating will take out all my energy, and make me sleep for a bit longer
>More sensitive to my feelings, quick to anger mostly
>Still watching food videos and making a list of what I want to make after the fast is over though

Why can I only take sips of water, when I was able to drink for days ? Now it feels like something is blocking my throat from accepting waterr.

And recycling is bad why???

Day 16.

1,67m.
Started with 68,8kg I think, unsure about the grams. Now I'm at 58,2kg.

Almost there.

24 hours into my first 48 hour fast and I don't feel anything. I was wondering if I'm only doing a 48 hour fast, would I break it with a normal meal or refeed?

every study says that artificial sweeteners do not raise insulin and in no way break your fast.

>I don't feel anything

Your body hasn't ran out of glycogen just yet that's why you feel just fine. Going into ketosis is where you'll notice some discomfort.

1lb fat/day is too optimistic for most of the population. 1lb fat contains around 3500 kcal, so you'd have to be quite big to lose that in an average day!

Its not that bad. 1lb of fat is about 40-60% fat so you only have to use about 1700 calories to lose 1lb. That water weight you lose with that 1lb won't come back because the fat it was stored in is no longer there.

No don't do that day 2 is horrible. At least wait till it's day 3 or above and the. Go on first day of job

Hahahaha hahaha based retard
1lb is 3500 cals end of story. Water has no calories

>1lb of fat is about 40-60% fat so you only have to use about 1700 calories to lose 1lb.

No sweetie, fat tissue is over 90% fat. Where'd you get your meme from?

cole did a video on this. he argues that 1lb of fat has to be less than 3500 calories because 1lb of fat as a water element to it.

>water has no calories
Retards cant even put basics together. Water has no calories, but it has weight you idiot. Fat is not just gel on your body. For every half a pound of pure fat you lose, you also lose about half a pound of water. Put them together and you lose 1lb you retard.

AIM FOR 1L+, YOU MIGHT END UP NEEDING MORE ELECTROLYTES THE NEXT DAY.

>I shouldn't experience any complications due to the snake juice correct?
CORRECT, BUT IT'S ALRIGHT TO HAVE A FRUIT WITH IT IN CASE YOU THINK YOU'LL GET CONSTIPATED.

YOU NEED TO FIX YOUR FOOD ADDICTION OR YOU'RE JUST GOING TO RELAPSE AGAIN. YOU'LL TELL YOURSELF 'IT'S OK IF I JUST EAT THIS JUNK, I'LL JUST FAST IT OFF AGAIN!' IT'S THE FAT CYCLE.

I ANSWERED, SO I'LL JUST REPOST MY REPLY:
>How do I avoid a surprise nasty shit?
NEVER TRUST A FART.
>And my forearms are less vascular than they were when I was eating what gives?
DEPLETED MUSCLE GLYCOGEN.

YOU WON'T GET A HEART ATTACK, BUT YOU MIGHT PASS OUT DEPENDING ON HOW HARD THE LABOR IS.
BRING YOUR SNAKE JUICE AND KEEP YOURSELF IN CHECK. PEOPLE HIT THE GYM FASTING FOR 5+ DAYS, BUT THAT CAN'T BE MORE THAN 4 HOURS PER DAY.

GET YOUR FUCKING SNAKE JUICE.

ALSO, YOUR BODY IS FIXING ITSELF, BRINGING YOUR HORMONES BACK TO A NORMAL STATE. LISTEN TO IT AND DON'T EAT, BUT DRINK YOUR FUCKING SNAKE JUICE.

fat tissue is 90% fat.
Thats such an arbitrary number you must have a source for it.

YOU CAN EAT ANYTHING ON A 48, BUT FAST LONGER IF YOU'RE A FAT PIECE OF SHIT.

1 POUND OF BODY FAT IS *NOT* 3500KCAL. 1 POUND OF FAT IS AROUND 60% WATER.
youtube.com/watch?v=M370q-eI6Ac

YOU CAN EASILY LOSE 2 POUNDS PER DAY IF YOU'RE A FATTY, HALF OF THAT BEING WATER.

I found the best way to not eat.
Just be poor, lol.

or be a federal employee

I think that goes along with being poor.

Is snake juice good for appetite supressant? Cole says I can drink as much of it as I want. If I have a hunger pang should I just take a swig?

Would taking a laxative break my fast? Im 24 hours into this fast but want to get the shit out of me before I hit 100+ hours. Worst part of fasting is how long I dont shit no matter how much I eat on feed days.

In one of his videos he said don't drink snake juice because you're hungry. You shouldn't anyway! Just deal with it and it'll go away.

Taking a laxative is pretty bad on a fast since you'll lose all your electrolytes.

Well when am I supposed to drink this shit?

I'll just drink more snake juice. I ate yesterday so I know theres shit in there.

I'm getting ready to break a 48 hour dry fast.
I've done water/SJ fasts several times in the past lasting up to 7 days, but are there any special precautions I should take coming off 48 hours dry?

My plan, unless told otherwise, is to just sip on water for maybe about 3 hours then stuff my face with some hot wings.

SNAAAAAAAAAAAKE JUICE

Ive eaten a large meal after a 48 water fast and I was fine. Mind you I live a sedentary lifestyle so your mileage may vary if you train hard.

stay near a toilet, your first meal might just explode out of your ass

don't do lots of carbs. break the fast with a wee bit of baking soda and water a few hours before eating

Fine I'll rephrase
1lb fat has 60% water ok good. But to get that whole thing out of you, you need to expend 3500 calories.

>8 day fast
>Friend calls randomly on day 6
>Says he wants to catch up and drink
>Thought we were meeting on the weekend
>Really wanna catch up but I say no even though he insists a lot

No one can stop me

>if you train hard
Yeeeah, that's not gonna be a problem.

>carbs
I'm trying to stay keto. The main reason for the fast is because I fucked up last Thursday. I had a social obligation where it would've been rude not to eat cake, also I had rice without even thinking. I went from pissing deep purple, to not even a trace.

Thanks for the input guys!

>you need to burn calories to get water out
just stop

Wife made pizza from scratch tonight.
The fuck. Anyway done with day 9, down 18lbs.

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Gents, where can I buy potassium chloride? Starting my first /fast/ once I gather the ingredients.

tfw 218lbs december 30. tfw 193lb right now. Feels good gents. I didn't realize that I was over 210 until halfway through december and was always putting off getting back to 185lbs. No more love handles, 34" pants fit again. People constantly asking me how I lost weight so fast. Fasting saved my life. Anything else I can do to speed up this last bit of fat.

If I'm a fat cunt at 5'7", 236 pounds, how much weight can I expect to lose with snake juice fasting (for as long as possible)? Been doing OMAD for all my professional life and intermittently fasting for the past few years.

Don't give up socialising with friends during a fast. As long as you explain you can still hang out. I actually went to the bar with a few friends the other day with a bottle of snake juice and there was no problem. Obviously it depends on the bar and your friends but if you don't be an autist explaining the fast you should be fine.

stop thinking about it and just do it
every body is different so its best to track your own progress

Oh, I've already started. I was just curious since I saw discussion further up about how much weight people usually lose per day while fasting.

Do you guys notice you get hungrier as you get horny? My girl and I are sending pics back and forth and talking dirty and all of a sudden I'm ravinous. What gives?

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LURK MORE FAG

in general the fatter you are when you start the more weight you lose. But eventually it'll pan down to less and less weight lost a day per week. Best to focus on your body fat percentage than weight at that point because you're still losing the same amount of calories

You guys are never going to make it

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I slept like 13 hours and now my pants and underwear are slipping down, help

i drink sugar free monsters all the time and im always in ketosis

I'm having one right now, it's okay. Only resort to Monster when you're feeling really shit though.

Sprite Zero can take me out... might just be sensitive. It definitely increases my appetite

@49247103
Very low energy post

Does celery break a fast?

Yes

>Day 15 of fast
Boss pulled me into his office today and asked if everything was ok and if I wasn't eating because I was depressed. That was fun. Cold is better now since I bought a full long sleeve and pants knock off underarmor I'm wearing at work and home. It is kind of weird. I know on longer fasts the desire to eat fades but it is to the point where I don't even see food as food.

Buddies ordered/cooked pizza, wings, there were cookies and scotcharoos, beer, shots, and popcorn at the football game tonight. None of it even tempted me. All the smells and sights and it really didn't register to me that I could or should want to eat or drink anything there. Feels odd to be frank.

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Gonna go to work, hit the gym, eat one big meal and then repeat tomorrow.

Never done this before.

But old house wives told me it has negative calories

Is there a difference between powdered bone broth, and liquid ones when looking to break a fast. Sure there is snake juice, but I'd like to take extra precautions when breaking.

vitacost.com/bone-broth
amazon.com/Beef-Bone-Broth-Bare-Bones/dp/B077GH84HL?th=1

He's a borderline alcoholic who plans to get me drunk I know him. Had it been literally any other guy I would be yeah sure np

Is weight fluctuating normal when fasting? I go up a lot of pounds when I break my fast. Doing omad and dry fasting

Would start with intermittent fasting be better just to see how it goes and to help lower the unwanted hunger/caffeine addiction instead of just doing a full fast? I've read that for fat people like me you recommend at least 7 day fasting, but I'd like to make sure that I don't have any issues with it and I'd like to try the snake juice which hopefully I can find since I live in a really small city

Because your body will spend more claroies digesting it than it bas it. It still isnt fasting. Your body will be processing that. You'll be very calorie deficient, but miserable with none of the benefits of pure fasting

Quite the compliment from the boss honestly. How much have you lost?