>fuck up three discs in my lumbar region (disc bulges) years ago from heavy squatting and dling >finally make it back into the gym, mother buys me a membership for NYR >first three weeks spent just doing light cardio and slowly getting back into shape >finally pay a visit to the ole squat rack yesterday >do some light squats and deadlifts >feels okay, weak as fuck, can barley squat 1 pl8 and only dl 1 pl8 for 1 rep >feeling bone pain and general inflexibility in the spine the next day welp. that didn't take long. back to doing light cardio and nothing but i go.
wtf am i even supposed to actually do in a gym with a fucked up back?
do some bodyweight stuff, push ups, squats, pull ups, dips, and leg lifts. Go for like 10 reps each set and go for perfect form everytime. Sometimes your body just needs rest, getting ripped takes time user.
>275 >heavy Your form was shit, learn how to squat and watch athleanx vids on stretching
Logan Cox
>275 back squat for 5, 300 dl for 5 >heavy squatting and dling
yeah your form just sucks
Isaiah Butler
>bulges disc doing certain kinds of exercise >continues doing those exercises
retard
Contrary to what idiots on fitness forums have told you, squats and deadlifts do NOT have magical properties, and you CAN get DEBILITATING, LIFETIME injuries from doing them, EVEN with good form.
You can sub out squats with:
>Leg Press >Back hyper extension
This give you a knee extension exercise and a hip extension exercise, separating the simultaneous compression and sheer force on the spine. It's less time efficient but it works the same muscles and is SAFER.
If you MUST do a pull from the floor (you don't need one for physique, honestly), do POWER CLEANS. By definition a power clean must be done with TOTAL THORASIC EXTENSION. Meaning that bad form is pretty much impossible as your upper back must be straight with your shoulders back. With the deadlift, almost ALL ELITE lifters have kyphotic rounding on max lifts. This is pants on head retarded for a non-competing lifter. DON'T DO IT.
>hehehe but you just got hurt cause you had bad form
No.
>Candito >Lilliebridge Jr. >Layne Norton
All SERIOUS, COMPETING powerlifters. All have near perfect form. All of them COMPLETELY BTFO their own backs FOR LIFE by deadlifting. They will all have CHRONIC ARTHRITIC BACKS because they got obsessed with this meme lift the DOESN'T EVEN REALLY MAKE YOU LOOK GOOD.
Bodybuilder avoid these lifts for a reason -- THEY INJURE YOU.
Lincoln Clark
And before someone says it
>hurr durr, you can't build a good physique without squats and deads
Absolute bullshit.
>Scooby >Hodge twins >Dorian fucking Yates
All didn't do one of squats or deadlifts, or both. You literally don't need these exercises at all -- there are safer alternatives if you fear for your long term health.
Luis Jones
Great, another tranny raid thread with a black guy in the OP pic.
Christopher Watson
>Great, another tranny raid thread with a black guy in the OP pic.
op here, i agree with you. but big compound lifts seem very efficient when in terms of bang for your buck. my form was decent but i had too much buttwink/pelvic tuck under especially when it came to squats do my leg muscles being too tight.
also for what it is worth all of those dues you mentioned are roiders anyway.
>also for what it is worth all of those dues you mentioned are roiders anyway.
Regardless of what you think about them, progressive overload is progressive overload. If you think squats have some sort of magical properties, other than time efficiency, that you won't get from progressively overloaded leg press + back hypers, then you're beyond saying. It's literally the same movements, just with significantly less spinal compression.
Landon James
i'm not disagreeing with that you're saying, you're pretty much right on the money, i just wanted to point out those dudes you listed have impressive physiques because of roids, you can do roids and stay at home and eat cheeseburgers all day and still achieve a nice physique. that's all i'm saying.
Sebastian Gray
Imagine being such a retard that you think that deadlifting 300 permanently ruined your back and not that you're just a spaz hypochondriac
Nathan Sullivan
i have the literal mri results to prove it. are you saying i'm just making shit up? a lot of people have horrible body proportions and overall bone genetics and should never come within 500 feet of a squat rack.
Jackson Hall
the spinal malformations were already present and you aggravated your back training (which everyone does at some point) then once you showed some spinal fuckery on your mri (which everyone has past 30 or so) you made an unreasonable causal interpretation
>correlation doesn't causation sweaty the last cowardly retreat of a committed ideologue
look if you can pull and squat a lot of weight and remain injury free more power to you, many many others are not so lucky.
Jeremiah Carter
read the study above
Chase Reyes
>>fuck up three discs in my lumbar region (disc bulges) years ago from heavy squatting and dling What do you mean? Did you get x-rays and shit of this? Did any professional look at you?
>>feeling bone pain and general inflexibility in the spine the next day Chances are that its not "bone pain", its probably not "general inflexibility" either whatever the fuck that means. What is actually happening is that your lower back is tired and generally sore from the training and you are interpreting that pain and labeling it as "omg my back is fucked this is my old injury flaring up" and then you get scared to do those movements again and you'll end up feeling more pain as a result of it.
Pain is a protective mechanism for the body, if something hurts you don't want to do the thing that hurts. Basically you need to teach your self to not experience back pain trough changing how you perceive it and the cause of it.
Basically your back is fine, you are making it worse trough the way you think that the pain is caused by your old "injury" flaring up again, but what is actually happening is its normal fatigue but you think its something else because you are overly cautious about any sensation coming from your lower back.
Carter Reyes
breh I have three bulging discs and ended up doing a month of physical therapy because of them years ago
why does Jow Forums struggle with the concept of back injuries so much
Jaxon Gray
shut your fucking mouth
Joseph Baker
If you get painful bulges in your back from squats and deadlifts then studies trying to minimize the problem a person experienced does no good whatsoever. Furthermore the people in these studies may have less severe bulges than typically seen when moving 300+ pounds of weight as the average person with disc bulges lifts no where even close to that much weight on any sort of regular basis if ever in their entire lives.
Zachary Allen
Hurhurrhurrr
Asher Cooper
The most sensible post ITT yet no replies.
It’s like Jow Forums is fucking blind to the truth and refuses to accept these facts.
Seriously though, >2(1000)+19 >still doing squats and deads >unironically risking fucking yourselves up >not realizing that even with perfect form, a heavy deadlift of squat is fucking retarded
Enjoy ego lifting for absolutely no reason, wannabe competitors.
Jaxson Thompson
This poster knows the truth. Squats and DLs are fun to do, but the risk-reward is absolutely horrible. Just don't do 'm
Mason Jones
calisthenics, yoga, but u dont need the gym just do it at home
Jaxson Hughes
this is why squating is retarded
Jose Scott
Talk to your doctor first to see if you should even be doing compound lifts instead of asking an image board for advice.
Christopher Robinson
my orthopedist was an autistic Persian man with a heavy accent who when I asked if I'd ever be able to seriously exercise again simply said "probably" with a goofy look on his face
Ayden Turner
Squat with lighter weights(40kg) for more reps. Also see your doctor before liftan again, so that you will have a clear image on your spine situation. Good luck.
Isaac Brown
>heavy squatting and dling >not even 3pl8 on either
fucking your back up for THIS
Adam Smith
I fucked up my knee for a month with that kind of weight. Form's important yo
Joshua Mitchell
>How can wh*te boi even compete with the Big Baboon Dick >Black people noises.
