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I can also do a little bit over 3pl8 deadlift double overhand, but there it stops for some reason. I deadlift over 4pl8's now, but I still can't do more.

Yeah it's weird, I feel ya user

That and shitty bars at my gym that are warped.

Done much grip training? I do max duration hangs and its keeping my grip improving above what I need for the deadlift. 170kg x1 162.5 x4.

>using clips
do people unironically do this?

Bottom clips are best

Why are you faggots actively avoiding free grip training?

Probably from people doing those autistic 2 inch ROM rack pulls and slamming the weights against the safety pins.
Speaking of fucked up equipment, I hate it when gyms have random unlabeled alternative equipment mixed in with the standard stuff. For example, at my old gym most of the barbells were normal, but there was always this one barbell that was darker in color and had a moderately thicker diameter. And because the ratio of equipment stations to barbells was 1:1, you never knew when you were going to go up to a rack or bench and that fucking oddball bar would be there. Then you'd have to hope one of the other stations wasn't being used so you could swap the bar out.

I never fucked with that bar because there was no way of knowing how much it even weighed. Was it the same as a standard bar? Was it 55 lbs? Nobody knew.

how the fuck does the weight of the bar matter? who cares?

My gym does have that odd thick bar as well. And its the only bar with knurling in the middle for squats. Since 100kg slipped of my back using a different bar I've used it for squatting always and its kinda annoying using it for squats, moving to a different exercise and it being weird af.

This. The weight of the bar disappears when you put weights on it so it doesn't matter.

Because if I don't know the true weight of the bar and treat it like a 45lb one, and then it ends up actually being 55lb, for example, then that means I'm loading an extra 10 lbs on the bar than I should. And then when I fail, I wouldn't even realize it's because the weight is too high.

the weight of the bar doesn't affect the weight of the plates though you retard.

So if I load up the bar thinking it's a normal bar and going for a new working weight of 190 on OHP, if it actually turns out the bar is 55 lbs, then the total weight I think is 190 actually ends up being 200. And then when I fail that, because it's 10 lbs over what I should be lifting, I just assume it's because I'm too weak, rather than ever realizing that the weight was off.

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m8 they're shitposting, don't worry about it.

if you load up 190lbs, you still load up 190lbs worth of plates onto the bar no matter how much the bar weighs. the only reason to load up anything different would be because you think the bar is different, which it doesn't matter, so you're just fucking yourself over at that point

He's baiting, you dip. Don't respond seriously to "don't count the bar" tards

190 lbs total

yes, now you get it

45 lb bar + 72.5 lbs worth of plates on each side of the bar.

the bar is holding the plates, so its 72.5 + 72.5 which is 150, so you're only ohping 150

72.5 + 72.5 = 145. Plus the weight of the bar is 45. 145 + 45 = 190 lbs.

you're not making any sense

They get bent out of shape the first time you grip them too hard, and THEN from that point on you need herculean strength to squeeze them hard enough that they'll fit on the bar

I don't use a clip most of the time. My biggest fear is not being able to push the weight aside if I try a new PR.

when you bench you gotta lift the bar holding the weights so its 145 + the 45 dumb nigga

>t.griplet

And they said Jow Forums(nel) has lost all advertisers...

The sliding ball bearing ones no one else can take off duh

>noclip

Imagine having such bad grip strength that the fucking clips are grip training.

i have steel clamps from rogue they are pretty based

It's still grip training user

My deadlift is at 490 and I don't use wraps so I think my grip is okay

you might not but your girlfriend uses a strap on

she doesn't need one because she has a female penis

This is an odd response typical of a teenager

Pics?
I've deadlifted 505 conventional with mixed grip and no chalk, and I agree: gotta train grip whenever you can to keep it up.
>just use hook
No way I'm pussy and that shit hurts

this

Yeah I could never get into hook grip either, it feels like I'm going to rip my thumbs out of their sockets

>no way of knowing how much it even weighed
You don't have scales in your gym?

That actually means you're doing it wrong. You want your thumbs parallel with the bar. The pain should be on the inside of the thumb print.

Yeah well it's still pain vs no pain, there is really no reason to change from mixed grip

I've been deadlifting for a decade and I don't have any sign of these "imbalances" people prophesied about

Shoo shoo dyel

At the high level risking a bicep tear but idc I still mix it up senpai

Agreed, and then you get to the point like my gym where the clips have been used so many times that I literally snapped two in one night squeezing the handles together and the cheap ass metal they use shears in half.

I probably looked like a huge fucking autist when I walked up to the front desk and told the girl "Guess I gripped too hard" with an awkward fucking laugh. Why am I like this Jow Forums

This is one of those things that constantly gets thrown around with no actual scientific evidence

Some guy tears a bicep deadlifting with mixed grip on YouTube and everyone immediately says it's the grip, not the fact that he's pulling too heavy for his own good.

It's not the collar itself it's the bars that are all scuffed and you have to squeeze the collar as hard as possible to get it to slide off smoothly.

Fair enough
From a normie perspective is sounds badass probably, don't worry about it

>using clips
this fucking board

The only time you shouldn't use clips is benching for a max without a spotter

>nobody mentions Ivanko collar clips
The fuck is wrong with Jow Forums

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