Bros i'm looking to begin the carnivore diet but i'm kinda scared by low-T (like Baker results), but at the same time you got people that uped their T like this lad:
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Anyone has more info on it? Also, when do your shits stop being liquid and your gut flora normalizes?
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Carnivore boosts my test quite a bit and my friend who's been doing it for years just had his test checked and it was high as fuck
How much was it, can you recall?
Also, any theory why Baker's was so low?
He's probably full of shit. Everyone who releases bloodwork on this trash ass diet has astronomically high LDL and garbage test levels.
about 1 month
when I started I was slow cooking roasts in the crock pot while at work and drinking the liquid and that was what was causing me the shits, they went away when I stopped drinking it and then I reintroduced it later
so maybe you can try high protein until you get adapted then start upping the fat
>t. pseudo-intellectual who doesn't understand cholesterol
Everyone is Baker & Tufano? What else you got?
I really don't know
>follows a carnivore diet
>thinks he notices a significant change in testosterone levels within a month without bloodwork
>calls others pseuds
kek
>two biggest carnitards
>b-but they don't count!
You're a step away from being one of those retards who say shit like
>"b-but REAL communism has never been tried!"
What do you say about the T?
lol, so you say people who claim they got high test from the carnivore diet are lying?
>Test: 264-996
Wtf
Without bloodwork before and during the diet, fasted, taken at similar times during the day, analysed by the same lab, etc.? Yes, they're lying. There is no way for someone to instinctively tell what their testosterone levels are without checking.
who fucking knows
why would I go to the doctor? none of my limbs have been hacked off
you cucks want to go to the doctor everytime you get a cold and think your blood tests are relevant for anything.
all your hormones change every second of every day, your body never turns off
ok bro haha
so how do you feel on the carnivore diet? Can you give me some details?
obsessed over a fag who has had multiple cosmetic surgeries, and eats like a twink.
I'm sure he's high T to begin with...
you guys obsess over this clown too, who burns the shit out of his steak.
raw meat is GOAT.
these bozos are "popular" figures that eat carnivore but I wouldn't call them great representations of the diet.
>Carnivore diet
You mean Atkins/Ketosis? Or is this yet another diet.
another one yep yep
If a little bit lower test means i get bigger muscles, mental clarity, healing of autoimmune issues, lower need for sleep, better skin and better hair, why should i give a fuck?
Since ive gone carnivore from a plant based diet i feel like reborn, like im in my early teens again. Natural tribes all over the world drink blood and raw meat and they are healthy as fuck. Testosterone does NOT tell you anything about how "manly" a person is or how much muscles you build. There are thin basedboys with no muscles at all that have a "Over average testosterone level". Testosterone is overrated. My sex drive increased, my muscles grew without even working out. Everyone who shits on a carnivore diet should educate themselves first.
Also if you don't have any health problems or mental health problems, continue the way you eat because that's how your body wants it. But if you are suffering from a AA disease or Mental disease just try eating meat & eggs for 30 days. Can't do wrong with that.
>Testosterone does NOT tell you anything about how "manly" a person is or how much muscles you build.
The absolute state of carnitards.
>Testosterone is overrated
>Testosterone
>is overrated
I refuse to believe someone coping this hard exists. It has to be bait.
Carnivore is stricter. No plants, no carbs. Rest is up to you.
they're literally the most known people that follow a carnivore diet you fucking dumbass, one eats a simple "steak and water" diet, the other is super fucking autistic about supplementation and nutrient dense foods, both of them have low T.
If you want look better for a 3DPD, I'm sure they're very interested how high your testosterone is and not how good looking you are /s
>Also, any theory why Baker's was so low?
Because he's in his fucking 50s. Also test fluctuates throughout the day.
>lol, so you say people who claim they got high test from the carnivore diet are lying?
not him but yeah, without any blood work you are just guessing
ever single person who is emotionally invested in a carnivore diet is low test and has high ldl and high c reactive protein, meaining that every single person that actually follows the diet to a T, has health issues.
Really makes you think
>who fucking knows
based retard
anyone else get a boner a few minutes after finishing a particularly meaty meal? like two steaks or four medium size burgers
it only happens with meat
>Jow Forums is now against high test
I must be dreaming.
Either this place is now infested with /zerocarb/ cult zealot shill retards or it's all just a big troll.
I guess I better keep drinking half a gallon of soi milk.
His test is half the average for his age bracket,
>test flunctuates throughout the day
He took multiple tests, all of them show low test, his highest test reading is in the low 300's, which is barely higher than half the average for his age bracket.
Cope more.
I did the carny diet for a month, and let me tell you, if you hate pooping, this is the diet for you.
Otherwise I lost about 3-4 pounds, no other difference in my health or mental state. It's not a good diet unless you have some sort of specific reason you need to do this.
you also going to fuck up the microbiome in your gut if you don't eat a variety of food. So, if you go off the diet you'll find it's shitty and hard and painful.
Don't do it bro.
What I learned from Jow Forums these past few months:
Low test is ok as long as you eat only meat.
Testosterone doesn't matter.
It's normal to have the testosterone level of an aids patient pre treatment as long as you eat only meat.
This board has really become a shithole.
It's no different from fasting, your body is more resilient than this.
These threads piss me off so much that I'm going to get my bloodwork done on Monday and do this diet for a month just so I can post the results here.
Will report dick health.
>one month
try a whole year
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Theres a whole article on a guy who's test shot up on carnivore. It's a high fat diet, I'm not sure how it could drop your T levels.
His first T reading, on keto before he started carnivore
But the guy in the video went from 600 to 1165 T in the video. Did you watch the video?
t.
Test results for test can be misleading, as in baker's case. High test levels usually indicate shitty metabolism and uptake. The man is clearly built like a goddamn machine and sets rowing records in his fifties. Hormones are like keys, with receptors like locks. On a natural (carnivorous) human diet your body gets maximally efficient at producing things like hormones and ketones with little to no excess. Zero carbers stop pissing ketones after adaptation because there's no inefficient excess ketone production, unlike MCT-swilling 80%fat ratio ketards. The negative symptoms of low T have a lot more to do with shitty uptake from endocrine disruptors than serum levels from bloodwork. Removing xenoestrogens and endocrine disruptors from the diet and consuming tons of natural creatine/carnitine from copious amounts of meat helps heal your endocrine system. removing exogenous sugar from the diet boosts HGH too. There's no manlier diet than carnivore. It's kinda ridiculous how people manage to rapidly improve their body compositions, losing fat and gaining lean muscle while maintaining a sedentary carnivorous lifestyle. I've been ZC since April 2018, mostly sedentary, and my gynecomastia has greatly diminished. Now that I'm feeling healthy and can afford to eat more, I'm starting to lift again. Despite not lifting since February-March of 2018, I was able to match or exceed my (pitiful) max DL/squat/bench/OHP/row with way better endurance and better recovery times. I couldn't have dreamed of a 5x5 last year at these weights, could only do 2 sets max with shit form and early failure.
is there any reason not to have some reasonable quantity of broccoli and avocado
does it really have to be all animal all the time?
Go shill your fatties in your hightest threads you hooknose beta
>Muh lowtest
Go back on leddit onionboi
>Implying it's not the steroids
what video, and is the guy on a carnivore diet for a year straight AT LEAST? No? Then I don't care.
Shawn baker has been on his diet for a year straight minimum, tufano who is even lower test has been on it for 5+y.
That's what I care about, if the diet is not sustainable it's a shit diet.
Except it's the exact thing retards ITT are now claiming, that low test doesn't matter.
such as this
except he changed his diet and introduced honey and fruit juice to fix his insomnia and shitty libido
he mentioned this in a comment once not sure if he deleted it now, these carnivore retards don't even eat a strict diet themselves and auto medicate themselves with CARBS lmao.
You have to realize these plant fucks aren't against this diet for health reasons. It's all "think of the well-being of Ahmed, Pajeet, and Pedro! Btw I need you to stop having kids to save the planet!"
Ok then, if you don't care about testosterone levels you have then at least look at sperm count, have that shit looked at now and 1 year from now on your meme diet.
Then come back and post about your certainty of the safety of this shit meme diet, until then you're just hoping for the best and assuming shit.
Ironic considering most of /zerocarb/ is composed of fat boomers
fit people don't follow these diets unless they're mentally ill
the sugar gave him insomnia
This is a carnivore thread not a vegan thread you fucking idiot.
Being against a 0 plant diet is not a vegan agenda, it's normal reaction from people that aren't brainwashed retards such as yourself.
You have to be legit fucking insane to avoid food such as oranges that taste amazing and are cheap and filling for their caloric load.
no it didn't, and low carb/paleo/keto/priaml diets are notorious for causing insomnia.
He noe consumes honey regularly, he isn't following a carnivore diet at all, he's eating a literal plant byproduct that's processed by insects
that's ok, the problem is that he isn't honest about how he fixed his issues such as low test and insomnia, all fixed with intake of carbohydrates and this shit is very common to happen too
>filling for their caloric load.
You really are a fat fuck aren't you.
So you're just assuming that he's still consuming honey regularly? Fuck man, just believe your own bullshit right?
check the calories in 1 orange you dumb actual fat fuck, only legit fat boomers fall for these meme restrictive diets, no sane healthy fit person does them.
I'm not assuming, he mentions in comments and in his own videos where he has it in fucking view of the camera and even brings it closer for plain sight but never actually says how much of it he consumes.
Be blind and delusional if you want, this guy is a fucking scam artist guru wannabe just like the rest of them.
It really is interesting how so many people seek advice on this board from some of the most unqualified individuals. Something as important as diet, easily swayed by what talk show guests and "youtube professionals" claim as fact because of THEIR "results". Critical thinking! Pick up a book, experts have hidden their information in plain sight for you that seek it!
You mean "serum testosterone" user. Serum testosterone can rise or decrease by a lot of proceses and is not by itself indicative of where is T put or how much T you produce. For example, some foods and compounds can break DHT into test which then appears in the serum. But breaking DHT blocks some proceses in the male physiology.
Cool proof bro
I don't need sniveling rat kikes in lab coats to tell me shit. We've all been deliberately misled with politically funded disinformation to keep us suckling the sweet judaic corporate teat at the expense of our health. I'm healthier and happier than I've ever been in my life, and my formerly testosterone deficient, bloated beta body is transforming into something resembling an actual man. I've conquered all my addictions thanks to ZC and probably won't set foot in a hospital or doctor's office again until my children are born. People can interpret results any way they want, I'd rather just live my damn life. I literally have zero cares about any of the lab shit. I know my cholesterol ratio is better than it was when I was a plantshitter. I know my triglycerides are down. I can feel my blood pressure is lower than it used to be. I can feel my slower resting heart rate. I can feel the nice and comfy zero fiber zero carb digestion. Do you think wolves wait for a peer reviewed study to tell them it's okay to eat their prey? Fuck off with your gay bullshit. I used to have all kinds of inflammatory symptoms and GI distress before ZC. All my symptoms are gone.
>safety
I'll bet you're scared to eat raw meat you little bitch.
>generational D&C
>mental health card
CIDF(Carb Internet Defense Force) pls go
strong mental diarrhea, didn't even read
read We Want to Live by Aajonus Vonderplanitz
Carnivory and blood drinking are among the best kept elite secrets. For millennia the kings ate meat while feeding their slaves bread and vegetables to keep them stupid, sheeplike, and easily malleable for social engineering via politics and religion. Agri(((cult)))ure kept the pitchforks in the ground and out of their necks. Imagine owning feedstock smart enough to cultivate and harvest its own feed. Elites have no qualms about drinking and bathing in infant blood. Nobody gets to hunt the king's deer in Sherwood forest. Kosher meat has all the blood drained because it all gets redistributed away from the plebs straight to the rabbi. The bris milah is a blood sacrifice/trauma based mind control ritual where the rabbi literally sucks the blood from the mutilated glans of an infant. The extreme trauma greatly impacts brain development, leading to more malleable slaves. What do you think the Ziggurat was for? Stepped Aztec temples with blood trickling down? Priests and kings love to rape and murder innocent virgin children. The sick and weak used to wait in front of the chopping blocks to collect fresh blood after public executions because it's healthy and nutritious as fuck. The queen doesn't keep her decrepit husk alive because she eats crumpets and drinks tea my thoroughly brainwashed dudes. Wakey wakey.
you wouldn't have replied attempting to disparage me if you didn't read lol
Test in the 500s is literally below average for a fit male in their 20s.
>NOT A SINGKE CARNIVOREFAG WITH TEST OVER 800 NG/DL
lmfao!
I raised my test with carnivore. Went from 224 ng/dl to 483. Stabilized at 500.
What was your diet b4? SAD or you ate well?
What are the benefits of carnivore over keto? I'm uninformed on carnivore, but it seems like keto without the extra nutrients.
yeah, now post blood results you fucking larper
also lmao at 500
nah trust me I didn't even read any of it lmao, not gonna give you any more of my time, you're fucking brainwashed and already lost to diet cultism, you won't learn from others you need to learn from your own mistakes.
You guys must be legit fucking braindead from the lack of carbs, here it is, frank talks about it constantly, you fucking dumbass.
HE EATS CARBS you fucking RETARD lmao, and he started doing it more and more recently to fix his low test and insomnia, wake the fuck up already.
Here's him talking about how he makes ice cream with honey
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Here's a video of him talking about hwo to gain weight on a carnivore diet, he mentions adding HONEY to the diet.
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Here's another video talking about the benefits of raw honey which he himself admits consuming
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This is how he fixed his low testosterone and insomnia.
have you considered the possibility of this just being the result of not eating a vegay diet?
mine was 832 his was 1055 IIRC
I started last week after being vegan for about a month, worst time of my life.
Not really doing strict carnivore, but I'm doing a no fiber diet now.
I love it so far, I have like one fart a day and one bowel movement that is over as soon as it starts. Fuck lentils and beans I ain't never touching that shit again in my life.
He looks so creepy
if you honestly can't tell what's going on with baker's hormone levels, i don't know what to say to you. i'm not sure why baker bothered, all it would do is cast suspicion on him.
Did the carnivore diet turn him into a gay vampire?
Is he wearing make up? His face doesn't look right. Uncanny valley looking