Testosterone and attractiveness

Why high test men arent attractive to girls, look at the most powerfull athletes of each sport and they look savage as fuck, why girls dont find them attractive if they have the best gene pool available, instead they prefer the pretty face or chad kind of who is nowhear as strong or powerfull than a testosterone madman


tell me whats the science behind this

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not even science understands women

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we aren't fucking neanderthals any more, women like attractiveness, a pretty boy face with a strong body is usually the best combination like zac efron and such.

Implying they don't line up at the airport to fuck athletes.

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intimidation holmes
also I reckon beyond a certain test threshold you stop giving a shit about girls

Mike tyson got laid on the daily in his prime years. And he was a dumbass too. Fuck you talking about?

>why do different people have different tastes
>which one is a best social amulet: beautiful chad, or angry roid monkey?
>why isn't it all about testosterone?

it was an example, he fucked ugly whores anyways, if he was poor he would be a virgin himself said it

look at this guy for example, despite the roiding or GH he may have taken im 100% sure if this man had kids his kids would be strong and massive as fuck, why wouldnt a woman want a big son ?

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>just one chance at life
>angry roid monkey

i just wanted to a beatifull chad but god made me strong ugly and powerfull

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Because girls concentrate more on personality than looks. I know dudes who are way uglier than me but still score often because they got game. Girls who talk about how they only want 6'2 dudes that makes 6 figures end up fucking a broke failure who's 5´8 because he had the charisma. Personality is far more important than looks in my opinion. You can be 6'5 with Brad Pitt's face and Jeff Seid's body but if you don't know how to speak to a girl, you're fucked.

>You can be 6'5 with Brad Pitt's face and Jeff Seid's body but if you don't know how to speak to a girl, you're fucked.
I assume you're using hyperbole cause that example is just ludicrous to use. There's a certain point in terms of looks and aesthetics where it seems you can't really fuck up.

test is just one factor. symmetry and cultural/upbringing factors are another huge one that can even short circuit evolutionary impulses

Pretty much.
At that point you're going to basically get raped. You're going to be laying there with your face in your hands and a bit of sobbing with a woman/women laying there satisfied and smoking cigs.
That's kind of how it is once you pass the stud barrier and you're not the stud they want you to be/need.
So...watch out.

ovulation. but birth control kicked in

testosterone gives you rapist face

you would get laid often but no girl would stay with you

Nike Tyson is literally one of the most intimidating guys in the world retard. He was like a fucking predator in his prime and he still is scary looking.

Besides, he got laid constantly.

>girls concentrate more on personality than looks
Ahahahahah cope.

How can we scientifically verify things at the individual level?

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Yeah.
They'll make a fool of themselves, risk their relationships, a suprising amount will spontaneously realize that they are bi or are lesbian/straight transexual but still want to "experience men"/rape fantasies

But if you want to go for a walk somewhere and talk or have some coffee they'll look at you as if you three arms sticking out of your head.

Because looks matter.

Just the way his head looks freaks my ass out. Something about the way his eyes are set in his skull.

well it kinda makes sense, back in nature women would be attracted to that because strength would give a man power. now that we're in civilization power is obtained mostly through charisma so women are attracted to that

The number of men that are actually high test is probably rare, like less than 1% of the population. Even the good looking chads that are posted on this site are probably average in terms of test levels. The impact that this shit has on facial attractiveness is overstated

Let me tell you a secret about girls. They don't like letting on how attractive a man is unless he looks like a model/actor, so you can't trust their statements to the contrary. Ugly, hi-test guys slay pussy constantly. My wrestling teammate in school had the face of a slavic caveman and he was constantly ripped for his looks, yet got more bitches than anyone I knew at the time. This thread is just affirming incel status among 90% of Jow Forums users.

No. Physical beauty correlates with good genes. A tall good-looking guy has fewer deleterious mutations than a short uggo, on average.

Birth control makes women go for cuckfaces.

>XD

Tyson is just ugly, masculine doesn't mean looking bad/asymmetric.

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shit he looked like twink bitch. he truly hit bullseye with aging

Its all about balance, being in between leaning towards masculine is prime genes for a man. I mean think about it, A woman whos 100% estrogen probably is uglier than average, pic related

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>Because girls concentrate more on personality than looks

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KYS.

No, it is very difficult for culture to change that.

This.

Cope, if you break some stereotypes associated with those looks, they absolutely would.

Wut?

Cope.

They do, it’s just your personality is shit.

>Who could be behind this post?

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>youtube.com/watch?v=0zWXWKm9kOQ
Imagine fighting recently released from prison Tyson and seeing him give you that look at 2:50.

Women's sexual preferences very slightly according to what stage of their menstrual cycle their based on.
Simplified slightly:
>Less fertile
Prefer more feminine men

>More fertile
Prefer more masculine men

Birth control renders them permanently in this less fertile stage skewing their preferences.

Mike tyson easily had a harem of fangirls in his prime.

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this is also what ppl say when they mean 'be confident', high test fuckers radiate confidence

the actual answer

wow its almost like there's an optimal middle ground for everything
wow

It's not personality. It's the guy just being charming enough to make a girl feel attractive without him sounding like a pushover. Being able to flirt doesn't actually make you an interesting person.

cuz we live in civilization nigguuuh.

Being a brute is not high-status in modern times.

>the most powerfull athletes of each sport
>girls dont find them attractive

Are you out of your fucking mind, nigger?

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he was actually celibate leading up to fights, watch his documentary. 6 months leading up to fights he wouldnt have sex or jerk it.

Was that during his prime or way after it? Cause having constant sex was why he lost the Buster Douglas fight

yes, beyond a certain test threshold twinks are all that matters

that's because attractiveness is all about the face and facial attractiveness and testosterone having nothing to do with each other. It's all about maxilla and mandible forward growth. Notice how there are men with recessed chins and beautiful women with properly project faces, you wouldn't say the women has higher test because her chin is better. This is the same reason that women go for guys who skate and do drugs(usually on the skelly side) being lean and having good facial structure is all that matters

>facial attractiveness and testosterone having nothing to do with each other.
Delusion.

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WTf are his hands even human?

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>ariana grande has higher test that you because her jawline is better than yours

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well (((she))) prolly has higher test than most of fitizens cuz its a well known tranny

That's a good feminine jawline. Go find me a woman with a jawline like this.

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i hope she have a big clit

this guy is low test as fuck but has a good jawline and an attractive face. High test isnt a bad thing(it might add slightly to your looks) but at the end of the day 95% of your looks is how well your face developed as a child.

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Boldness is what you need but you should be fit tho

There’s been research on this

Women do love men with high testosterone

However what is appropriate “high testosterone” depends on her own femininity

Women who are more feminine/high E have a greater tolerance of lower T men such as prettyboys

More masculine women however exhibit a greater preference for very high T giga nigga looking dudes

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Except he isn’t. His chin width proves you wrong.

He’s ugly af desu

>Women who are more feminine/high E have a greater tolerance of lower T men such as prettyboys

>More masculine women however exhibit a greater preference for very high T giga nigga looking dudes

Loooooool, NO. Prove me wrong.

>Baldness is what you need but you should be fit tho

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we are reaching levels of cope we have never seen before folks!

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No, I meant his chin width is masculine, not that he isn’t attractive.

No, I’m saying he’s not very attractive. I wouldn’t date him.

yet here we see young leo with a narrow chin being cute as pie and more attractive than any high test powerlifter will ever be

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I've noticed you. You've posted this low test faggot on every thread here. Can you go and suck him off already and leave us out of it?

Powerlifters are balding and fat. This man is cuter, and has a more masculine face.

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Kys

Prime, not sure what he was doing after he tried to come back. I know after he went to prison he didn't give a shit about boxing any more, he just showed up for the money. His heart wasn't in it. Literally said it in a post-fight loss interview.

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leo is more beautiful than "manly attractive" though, like a fairytale knight

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Anyway, my point is: Well developed masculine face>Well developed androgynous face>Well developed feminine face.

What the fuck are you talking about OP. Bodybuilders have no problem attracting female attention.
If they're unable to get girls then they're not treating them correctly after the initial attraction.

yes that's true, but my entire point was well developed androgynous face > poorly developed masculine face

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There's a massive variety in things that women find attractive. It isn't just hurr durr, this guy could beat up this guy so I'll let him fuck me, though that is one of the factors

>Mike tyson got laid on the daily in his prime years. And he was a dumbass too. Fuck you talking about?
Mike got literally cucked by Brad Pitt. Look it up.

True.

Everyone gets cucked dude

Lightweight prettyboy ottermode with pretty face here, can confirm I get more pussy than fat powerlifter strongmen fags

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I have normal E but higher than average test and rarely find the pretty boy attractive. Guess this makes science sense now.

Mike Tyson probably has a higher iq than you

I don't know the science, behind it. But that's a good question.
But one thing I do know, is that masculine faces tend to age WAY better than "pretty boy"-faces.
Once pretty boys lose that youthful look, they go to shit real quick, like Johnny Depp.
But masculine, rugged faces age better because their youth doesn't matter as much because they still have their ruggedness, like Tom Selleck.
Obviously you can accuse me of cherry picking since I only mentioned two names, but High T, masculine guys eventually win over the prettyboys. It just takes a little time.

Denis cyplenkov
He has some form of acromegaly, helps him being the best armwrestler in the world. He also holds the curl WR

I read an evolutionary psych guy saying women are attracted to physical features that predict healthy/powerful offspring, and also physical features (mostly in the face) that indicate likelyhood of parental investment.

It's not a betabux thing either, like a stable job, where they might require it for a relationship but aren't attracted to it. They get wet over facial features indicating likelihood of parental investment. That's why they like the pretty boy face. And why Justin Bieber is more attractive than Tyson or Pudzianowski

Quit Larping

>automatic response to being told they have a shit personality is calling me a kike and kms
Yeah, I’m sure your looks are why you can’t get a gf

Every girl is different and likes different things

i believe he has a disorder which caused this growth of hands/wrists. not detracting from his physique though.
also he has a girlfriend... shes hot

>Johnny Depp
>JUST

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yeah right but hes a succesfull sportman and bussinessman if he was a poorfag and looked like that he would be a total freak and no qt would want him

Nope, it's all birth control and its psychological effects. You forgot to include that.

Nah, Tyson was both stupid and violent, and got the type of woman who likes those things in a man.

the chin is the only masculine part of this face. everything else if feminine. tiny jaw, tiny nose, bright, clear eyes, weak brow. LOW TEST.

Read Why Women Have Sex.

Women like men with signs of higher than average test because test is immunosuppressive and so it shows that they have a good immune system and because it makes them stronger.

Too much test leads to anti-spcoal behavior. Women prefer more masculine faces than average, but not the most masculine. Test that is too high is maladaptive.

Women also highly value humor, social status, and intelligence. Being funny is a sign of high emotional intelligence which is a good trait. Obviously intelligence is a trait that is selected for.

A loner giant test cave man is a cave man who is going to get his head bashed in with a rock while he sleeps, or be left to die when he breaks his leg.

If you look at tribal societies, the biggest dude isn't always or even usually the leader and isn't getting the most puss because other factors are also important in the survival of offspring.

True. The ability to lead others while not pissing them off to the point of them killing you is the most attractive male quality.

>he was actually celibate leading up to fights, watch his documentary. 6 months leading up to fights he wouldnt have sex or jerk it.
absolutely false he admitted to having sex before fights on the joe rogan podcast.

I thought Mike was fucking a lot of women