I see a lot of articles online claiming this is one of the best ways to expend calories. With a 35-lb kettlebell, they seem to say you average 2 calories per swing assuming you bring the kettlebell to eye level during the upswing.
Is this a meme exercise or worth doing?
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they are fun so yes
>fun
All exercises are meme exercises
Why would you ever do something that's not fun?
what the fuck am I doing wrong that I get lower back pain? I would get similar pain from squatting as well. is that just my muscles fatiguing or is it something bad? how the fuck do you fuck up this exercise
Gym is not supposed to be fun. Gym is supposed to make men out of boys. Why would it ever be fun?
Are you warming up properly and working on your mobility? Is your form fine? Every exercise will fuck you up if done improperly.
faggy squats.
Exercise releases dopamine
You sound like a faggit op, why the fuck do you care what this board thinks noone even lifts
>Gym is not supposed to be fun.
Well then why would you do it if you don't enjoy it? I do.
Life's too short to do things you don't like.
I think I'm keeping my back neutral and I think I'm hinging at the hips, then again no one has ever showed me how to do either of these so I have no way of knowing whether I'm doing them right
I don't enjoy lifting itself. I enjoy only having done lifting. It's what you are supposed to do if you want to be a healthy man with high smv. I enjoy satisfaction of doing something that I should be doing. But lifting is supposed to push your limits and that's supposed to be uncomfortable. If lifting is pleasurable, you should lift more.
I'd bet Arnold lifts more than you and he enjoyed lifting
Weak larp. You can enjoy something that is hard and uncomfortable. Just ask the fags.
Are you talking about 2 cal or 2 kcal? 2 cal makes sense, but you'd have to do the exercise 500 times in order to burn 1 kcal (which in the US is talked about as the Calorie, with a capital C brought to you by big food).
If you do 15s swing 15s rest, 15s swing, etc. you burn 1200 calories an hour.
I enjoy mountaineering, not just the reaching of the summit but also the suffering along the way. Getting dirty and tired is fun if the rest of your life takes place behind a desk.
because people need to suffer in order to grow
wow OP I thought you were full of shit but then I read this article:
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I have a home gym I'm gonna make one of pic related. I would have never guessed this exercise that looks like such a meme burns so many calories
Because it's necessary.
That's pretty lame. You can't lift if you think that way because if you didn't enjoy it you'd never persevere.
The whole discipline thing is crap. Everyone of us who actually lifts like it.
No it’s not. Not in this modern world. You’re trying too hard to look macho but you sound like a fag.
>he's not cumming in the gym
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You're never gonna make it lad
My gym has no kettlebells but there are plates with handles like this up to 25 kilos, should I swing one?
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I don't think that's quite what he was saying.
Let's phrase it this way: do you find life fulfilling? If you do, what makes it fulfilling to you?
Fulfilling life for me is
>doing things I enjoy
And that’s basically it.
>The whole discipline thing is crap. Everyone of us who actually lifts like it.
Discipline has taken me 10 years so far. How long have you been lifting?
Well yes, but what are things you enjoy and why do you find them enjoyable?
>Muh iron life
Guarantee you're a faggot who start lifting like 2 months ago. Post physique.
Specific things don’t really matter and I find them enjoyable because I get a hit if dopamine when I do them.
Are you serious? Why do you go to work? Why do you brush your teeth and comb your hair and shower and get dressed in the morning? Do you find all of that enjoyable?
Been doing this for 10 years. I look roughly like the AthleanX guy, only with bigger chest. I don't need affirmation of some faggot like you.
To all the "I lift cause I like it" dudes... What will happen if you suddenly stop liking to lift? Will you stop and become a weak ass mofo again?
Do... do you not enjoy being clean?
complete meme waste of time for getting big/strong
depends on your goals i guess
Film yourself and compare to a video online
Just buy one at use it you’re room. It’s one kettlebell.
>Not posting physique
Okay bro, I'm sure you're huge and ripped and not a LARPing fag
Why people have to grow
>Specific things don't really matter
Of course they do, how is anyone supposed to deconstruct the phenomenon without anything tangible?
>I find them enjoyable because I get a hit if dopamine when I do them.
This is an extremely naive way to look at things. If dopamine was all that was needed, people could feel fulfilled just by masturbating at home and shooting drugs down their veins. Obviously you can see that it's not, which is why people crave something more meaningful. Hell you can see it in Jow Forums first hand, a lot of lost young men who're trying to grasp a hold of their lives because they're not satisfied. They get plenty of dopamine, that's not what they're lacking. Living a life of nothing but hedonism produces depression because we find no meaning in it
How else are you supposed to fight the Power Rangers?
I don't need to post my physique to question your lifting philosophy.
Please, answer my question at the end of the previous comment or are you just a bitch?
> 2 calories per swing
No.
Most people have a job to do that for them in a way that isn’t playing makebelieve.
>people could feel fulfilled just by masturbating at home and shooting drugs down their veins.
Which they do.
>Living a life of nothing but hedonism produces depression because we find no meaning in it
Please, the only reason people do anything for anyone else is for what they get in return, be it a material thing or from the sheer social masturbation.
You don't HAVE to grow. You don't have to do anything at all. But we have the desire to grow because it fulfills us and gives us meaning
No they don't. They absolutely do not. Ask any druggie, ask anyone who's spending their life doing nothing productive but rather chasing dopamine how happy they are, how fulfilled they are. You'll quickly learn that they're not happy at all. And don't take my word for it; there's been countless of papers about this. Dopamine simply doesn't equal satisfaction in long term, it doesn't make you happy or fulfilled or meaningful, however you want to put it. Don't be fooled by people who're still young and lost and might try to convince you otherwise; they simply haven't walked their path long enough to notice that they've arrived at gates of self-made hell
>Please, the only reason people do anything for anyone else is for what they get in return, be it a material thing or from the sheer social masturbation.
Well this is a very cynical way to look at life, and blatantly wrong. The biggest motivation people have is not SOCIAL masturbation, it's "self-masturbation" as you would probably put it. As in, feeling good about yourself. Don't mistake this for selfishness, because it's not. We chase the ideal, the meta-human status. For example if I open a door for an old woman at the grocery store, I don't do it to gain anything concrete in return, nor for social masturbation. I do it because I want to rise above myself and as a result feel good about myself. I try to reach for that meta-human status because trying to do it gives me meaning and fulfills me, which isn't selfish because my ideal isn't selfish. My "god", as in my morals and ethics, aren't selfish. If I was selfish, helping others wouldn't fulfill me and I wouldn't get anything out of it
i have shit tons of fun busting my ass in the gym, what are you on?
2 probable reasons.
1) you are not maintaining a fully neutral spine
2) closely tied to reason #1 - you are not bracing correctly.
The druggies only flunk out of it from outside pressures and abuse from their peddlers. I’m sure if you put these fucks in a safe space and didn’t make them feel like they’re doing something wrong that they would happily stay in that lifestyle.
Oh shut up with that meta human greatness bullshit, you chase that idealized version of yourself because you gain satisfaction from thinking you’re getting ahead of someone else. You get off thinking you’re better than someone else. That’s not noble.
HahaOP Thats a female workout, best be doing some plate raises you pompous swine. men do need this if they are not a martial artist though1!
>The druggies only flunk out of it from outside pressures and abuse from their peddlers. I’m sure if you put these fucks in a safe space and didn’t make them feel like they’re doing something wrong that they would happily stay in that lifestyle.
They'd stay in it, but they wouldn't be happy. We're very self-destructive and if we don't actively try to steer from it, it's where we end up. It doesn't matter what kind of drug paradise you give to people, they simply want more. They don't find any meaning in that whatsoever and eventually they do realize what it is that's gnawing them from the inside
But again, don't take my word for it. Research papers about this because there are plenty, see for yourself. You seem to have made up your world-view based on this so it should be pretty interesting to you, right?
>Oh shut up with that meta human greatness bullshit, you chase that idealized version of yourself because you gain satisfaction from thinking you’re getting ahead of someone else. You get off thinking you’re better than someone else. That’s not noble.
This is just a naive thing to say. What's the point of engaging in discussion at all if you've already decided that you're definitely right and aren't even trying to be open for dialogue?
kys retard
>is this x or y
>yes
source = your ass
Yes I’ve read a few stories and papers regarding heavy drug users and they all involve third parties abusing them and dishing out ultimatums and guilt trips. I’m not supporting their choices but I’m also not gonna say you can’t consde yourself living a fulfilling life in that environment. Fulfilling is all very subjective don’t you think? You’re talking a lot about “meaning” like it’s some be all goal or tangible thing. You can live a happy life without a discernible meaning.
Stop fooling yourself and stop trying to sound holier than thou. You’re selfish ultimately because you act in a way that helps you achieve your “meta human” aesthetics. You help others to fulfill your idealistic self. If you could achieve it without helping others I bet you’d chose that path. Who are you trying to impress?
Yes, fulfillment is subjective. But meaning IS a be all goal to people, of course it is. If it didn't exist you wouldn't do anything at all. You wouldn't find motivation to do anything, even things that don't give you meaning
>Stop fooling yourself and stop trying to sound holier than thou. You’re selfish ultimately because you act in a way that helps you achieve your “meta human” aesthetics. You help others to fulfill your idealistic self. If you could achieve it without helping others I bet you’d chose that path. Who are you trying to impress?
You don't understand the point I was making. Yes, I help others in order to fulfill my idealistic self. But my idealistic self is selfless, which is why I help others. If I could achieve it without helping others of course I'd choose that path because trying to reach "god" gives us meaning - but I can't. I can't achieve it that way because that's not what my ideal self is. I'm selfless because my meta-human status is selfless. Which it is for most people, otherwise we wouldn't constantly as a collective do noble things. We wouldn't portray our heroes in stories selfless. We all have bad and good in us, but I see people as mostly good because of this. You have this very cynical view for no reason. Why do you oppose good in people?
I'm not trying to be holier than thou, or to impress anyone. Again you're seeing this entire thing in a very negative light through your cynical goggles. For crying out loud we're two anonymous people on the internet, what could I possibly gain from that?
i do them sky high so i also work the abs