Every man has the potential to find at least one woman if he tries hard enough, takes a shower...

>Every man has the potential to find at least one woman if he tries hard enough, takes a shower, works on his appearance and personality, and lowers his standards.

Do people unironically believe this?

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Yep
You think that guy can't fuck fat ugly chicks?

Are you retarded? You think you need to be goodlooking to find a thot that wants your ugly ass? Its not impossible, your options are limited and you probably would be with a girl that no one else wants to be with, but still its a girl

atleast im not an incel so i dont have to worry about that shit anyway

Sorry but when you're so ugly you look like a serial killer, it's over for you bro. If you're lucky you might find a woman who's drunk off her ass and on drugs, but that's borderline rape.

Literally yes if you lower your standards enough.

Even as an ugly fatass manlet I had women show interest in me, except they were uglier, fatter than me and I would say clinically insane and the kind that would break your legs to keep you. I preferred to be alone than to do that.

Nice defeatist attitude. Do plastic surgery, roids and grow a beard. You will look above average no matter how ugly

If you lower your standards yeah, but fuck that. I'd rather be celibate.

Incels pls leave

Women don't like you because you suck

No, no one believes it.
It's the thing you used to tell incels before the internet to keep them from sperging out.
Now they can congregate on forums and see through the smoke and mirrors, something needs to be done ASAP

>incel thread
If anyone in here thinks they're too ugly to ever get laid, post your face so I can see what your sort looks like.

>tfw to intiligent to get a gf

>tfw I somehow managed to snag myself a mommy gf
>I wasn't even lifting at the time
>I was 336lbs whale
>she still somehow wanted me
>she was 236lbs
>34 years old
>totally okay with me calling her mommy in bed
>itsbetterthanbeingalone.jpg
>she motivated me to work out and lose weight
>she got motivated by me going to the gym and losing weight
>we're both losing weight now and she's been talking about going to the gym with me
If there's someone out there for me then you guys can do it too. We're all gonna make it.

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>Being in charge of your own life
>Intentionally telling yourself the story that you are a failure

This is really what I want. I want to see the average incel's face/body. I'm sure they're mostly totally average looking people that just have rotten personalities. Only a few are probably deformed in some way

GO
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seriously, go the fuck back. we don't want you here. im so fucking tired of these redditfugees

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But why do incels "suck"?

Because of their genes. They have genes that the modern George Soros scene isn't interested in.

Look at any Incel thread

>Do people unironically believe this?
but it's true. You retards act like it's difficult to get girls but it's easy as hell if you're willing to get off the old Indonesian fly-fishing collective, do some basic self-improvement and socialize.

I want to be a total slayer.
Will looking like Jensen Ackles, having a 6ft body with ottermode physique, being a film producer/director and having money and status help with this?

incels suck because they are self-loathing basement-dwelling women-hating hentai-fapping sub-humans. Any woman with basic instincts smells this concoction of emotional disarray from continents away and decides she wants nothing to with it. Can you blame em? Why would they want to deal with your self-destructive ass user? It would just drag them down to some inane rabbit-hole of insanity.

im a goodlooking guy, but a total pussy. my entire life has been watching less aesthetic guys pull girls i like because they hav non-beta personalities

how do you work on your personality exactly, mirror talks 4x10?

...

Plenty of nice guys with well rounded lives who wallow in inceldom
god knows I know a lot of such guys. Girls want tall, slim prettyboys with a masculine edge.

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aaaand kys you're hopelss

Haha I wouldn't know what that feels like haha

>you're in a basketball game and you're down 170 to 4.
"BRO ALL WE GOTTA DO IS MAKE A FEW THREE POINTERS AND WE'LL WIN!!! WINNERS DON'T MAKE EXCUSES BRO!!!! THIS IS WHY YOU'RE A VIRGIN."
Meanwhile there's some lazy unemployed guy who puts no effort into his appearance getting laid in the background.

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>self-loathing basement-dwelling women-hating hentai-fapping sub-humans
I'm literally this, but i'm not an incel.
Can you explain why?

Yes. Thing is, ugly guys don't want to fuck porkers either.

I doubt it of those people lead decent lives. If any of the following apply to you, don’t expect a gf
>video games
>fatty
>doesn’t play sports or lift
>no social groups (church, clubs, etc)
>no job
I know multiple people who are short and not attractive with good girlfriends (one is about to get married) because they pass all of the above.

lol, how's it feel making a disproportionately greater effort to get laid? And even then, you can't pull the super hot ones. You can have the right attitude and character but that counts for nothing if you don't look the part. You need it all.

They seem fun, comfy and cute (in a non homo way, i would just like to hug one them and tell him that everything is going to be alright).

>Fat ugly fuck gets with fat ugly fuck
Woah...

Church as a place to find a wife is overrated tho.

one last post for you user. I urge you to do, I know you think I'm a faggot retard, but it's the best thing you can do, but you probably won't. Go install the k9 web filter whatever, just google it. Block every incel-oriented board or website you visit. Have you fucking mental-health recuperate for some time. Crawl out the rabbit-hole bit by bit. Do research of physical appearance and well-being, go for it. After all that kys.

lol, they're not the sports type but they have jobs and a decent social circle, regularly going out with girls and all. One friend is going out (as a friend because the girl feels nothing for him) with a girl who I know has fucked dozens of random dudes before. It's just that he's 5'6 and skinnyfat with an unexceptional face.

I'm happy with the 7's user, just need a tight puss and big ass tbf

>skinnyfat dyel
>spend most time on the internet
>neet
>no friends
But i have a gf.

>not the sports type
>skinny fat
Let me guess, they enjoy game of thrones, marvel movies, or video games as “hobbies”.

It depends on the church of course. If you’re in an upper middle class area girls you meet at church will be from decent families and are more likely to be virgins.

It’s not impossible, I just mean if you’re an incel and you are that way you shouldn’t be surprised. Does your girlfriend have any psychological issues like anxiety?

>Does your girlfriend have any psychological issues like anxiety?
How did you know?
I found her on a forum about social anxiety in my country.

>Let me guess, they enjoy game of thrones, marvel movies, or video games as “hobbies”.
what you're describing is the average 20-something dude. Do you think the average man is also an incel?

>Let me guess, they enjoy game of thrones, marvel movies, or video games as “hobbies”.
no they're not lebbit bugmen, they're just normies but whatever.

You just have to be muscular, well traveled, speak 3 languages, play three instruments and make six figures. You know, like every other guy who has a wife/girlfriend.

He thinks non Chad men are only capable of slaying if they're loud and engage in sports and fuck around with others in their gay little clubs
what a normshit

They don't have to be those things.
I do though, to make up for my crippling autism

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Just be sexy bro

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It’s just a pattern I’ve noticed. I’m not sure why it exists.

The average 20 something isn’t married. The average married adult doesn’t do that shit, videogames are for kids.

Not what I mean, but typically “i’m not the sports type” is code for a bugman.

>The average 20 something isn’t married. The average married adult doesn’t do that shit, videogames are for kids.

You're deflecting and moving the goalposts. We were talking about sex and attraction. The average 20-something man who's into video games and marvel movies and not particularly athletic has still gotten laid, and not an "incel"

>videogames are for kids.

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>The average 20-something man who's into video games and marvel movies and not particularly athletic has still gotten laid, and not an "incel"
I don’t think that’s the average person, you’re just in a bubble. I think a person like that has sex very rarely if at all, although some of those people are more normal than others.

If you're a Jow Forums incel, consider this:
Everyone on Jow Forums hates you and we don't even know how you look like
Stop fucking whining

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lol no dude, you're the one living in a bubble.

100% correct
normies don't have passionate sex lives that rival Casanova

This is true
i was fat, ugly, unshowered, didn't know how to dress

i spent 2 years
>lost 100lbs
>started lifting
>cleared up my skin and got my hair on point
>learned how to dress from the internet and friends.

and guess what, after 6 months of non stop trying on every dating app and every time i went out.
I found 1 ugly fat chick that i fucked on the first date.
She was interested in going further but she wasn't really compatible.

So there you go. Put max effort into yourself for about 3 years and you might just pull a hambeast running out of options as her late 20's hit her hard.

The realisation that all my effort ended in that really fucked me up for about half a year but im just about getting out of my funk.

Life is truly pain for some of us

just go way below your looksmatch, pay for everything, do everything, and maybe you will get sex at the end of the date
what are you, an inkel?

That still means you literally could get laid, you just choose not to because you dont want to go through all the bullshit.

>Everyone on Jow Forums hates you and we don't even know how you look like
In your mind though you have a picture of how incels look. I bet it's a fat white guy who didn't take a shower in a week.

This. Think about all of the ugly ass moms and dads you know out there. I know a guy who is fat as fuck, wanted to fuck this girl but she kept telling me he wouldn't shower. She didnt look bad either and was winning her with kindness. I tried to let him know but nothing changed and me missed his opportunity. You have to change the things you can and accept the things you cant.

im an ugly guy and I was getting poon back when I was still fat... I dont even have that great of a personality.

>incel thread
>29 posters
>none have posted face
What do you have to lose? Prove to us that it's genetic happenstance that keeps you from getting laid and not your shitty personality.

Photofeeler marks me as a 5/10, I have months of game time logged in MMOs, and all my interests are niche as fuck, yet somehow I'm getting laid just fine. I want to know what fucking abominations are out here failing.

be nice

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This. Most normies who arent incels have fucked 1 or 2 ugly fatties in their lifetime and marries one of them and thats their life. Incels usually just have higher standards and I dont think there's nothing wrong with it, I think being an incel is better than the other fate even with the feels.

I'm thinking about getting surgery for my nose.

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Do you look like a young Johnny Depp or Jensen Ackles? Basically a model tier face with 5'10+ height and a super charismatic personality that exudes energy and pulls people in? If not, you're FUCKED

post pic of yourself, do it faggot.

There's no hope here lad, I've lost 45 pounds so far and I'm still a chublord. I was almost 300lbs and I'm currently at 220 and going down.

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This. Genes are one thing but calling others "failures" and unintentionally believing you can make that sort of a grand statement about another being (or yourself, I guess) is fucking stunning to me.
>inb4 cope

Here's a before and after from my fitness Pal to celebrate 1 year of weight loss I made the other day.

Have to admit of those 3 years of trying only the last year involved that 100lb loss.

>Pls no bully

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Good work user

almost there user! Imagine when that last layer of softness is stripped away

Nice job user, keep up the good work! Lot of respect for fatties like you who actually do something about their body.

Thanks user

Last 30lbs or so is the goal this year. Trying to lift with a friend who is happily bulking while im cutting is pure torture. He's making gains while im working hard to just maintain what i built over a christmas diet break.

Thanks man, if we work hard enough we're all gonna make it.

Nice job. You might want to do some incline or reverse grip bench for some upper chest gains

you have a massive way but you're clearly not nearly done. Do big ass weight training, big compound exercises and lose more fat. You can't wheel in beautiful women with what you have.

You look way better, continue to lose fat and put on muscle and you'll be fine. Then comes the real hard part, having the sexy personality to match

Tbh, he should focus more in isolation at this point to build muscle.

good job lad, keep it up

I'm fully of the mindset that incels are mentally debilitated in their attempts to get laid or get a gf. They are far too timid as individuals and find solace in association with other like minded individuals. Risks and changes to their lifestyle terrifies them so they've resigned themselves to becoming social factions with no contact with the outside world. Why do you think incels don't decide to get a prostitute or escort? The thought needing to interact with a women for sex terrifies them.

well you look like a fucking goober and there's no changing that, damn shame lad. If you looked like pic related you'd be drowning in pussy
lol at all the bluepill replies you got. You know the truth, losing that last bit of fat and getting to 9-12% bodyfat won't magically grant you a good facial structure.

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You are contradicting yourself. Obviously there's hope if you are improving. Keep going, you look like you'll be a handsome lad if you get lean

what if you're handsome but look like a serial killer?

Women will say that you look dangerous but in a sexy way, or some other inane shit.

keep going

you are definitely going to make it

This is him now. Feel old yet?

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there will always be another match

This. I'd rather be alone than fuck woman I don't like.

I don't even necessarily disagree with your train of thought but any person communicating their point of view through metaphores (especially as retarded as this one) deserves to be bound and flogged for eight fucking hours.

absolutely not, worst advice. user do compound exercises. A year after you get a solid frame of muscle, you can start doing isolation work for aesthetics,

Well, history and observable reality would tend to confirm that. So yes.

It's a strawman fallacy, a classic from Jow Forums and Jow Forums

Given that literal murderers have women sending them letters declaring undying love in prison, I think you'd be ok.

That's a status thing
even incels like Elliot Rodger had women talking good things about them

The hilarious part about this whole thing is that Rodger wasn't bad looking in any fucking way, he was just mentally ill and had the unfortunate luck of being stuck with mad, upper-middle class parents which will fuck you over in the long run.

Involuntery celibate didn't come from - "he's butt ugly/disfigured - so he's a loser and won't ever get laid" but from "he's mentally ill and has completely retarded views on reality and other people - so he won't get laid, and probably shouldn't". Meanwhile now "incel" is just a blanket term for everything, ugly people, ugly non-defeatist people, people who are mentally kids and are like Rodgers, people who are awkward, etc. If you don't fuck you're an incel, basically. Fucking retarded.

holy shit, is this true or just a meme

He looked like a total mutt though. And his parents weren't just upper class twits who weren't around for him, I think his stepmum abused him or something. Definitely some HAPA shit though, that never works out well.
Look at his smile, it's about as pussy dring as it gets. Dude was fucked mentally and facially but yes it's the mental stuff that made him go ER.

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You're literally cherry-picking a picture of him smiling in a half-insane, half-forced way. That's not to mention the fact that forced smiles like these usually aren't pussy dripping anyway, and EVEN if you have a shitty smile you can still get laid easily since it's like 1/36524234th of your overall attractiveness.

He looks fucking average.

>it's a forced smile!
>a smile is a small part of your attractiveness!
come on man. You're a dude. You don't get how women think, to them it's either fuck or no fuck. This guy simply fails.

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>You're a dude. You don't get how women think
And I assume you magically do?

Well I agree with you that there are way more attractive people but he wasn't fucked over in any way when it comes to the looks department, at least as far as being a 5/10 goes. The fact that there were women interested in him proves this. And you don't have to be fucking Dean from Supernatural to get into healthy relationships with attractive people, right?