GYM INSTRUCTORS

What are the traits of a good gym instructor? What are the red flags? I'm switching gyms and I'm curious about the new staff.

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There are no gym instructors. It's literally a job for Jow Forums who made it and now are looking to get laid, while being at the gym for free.
God, I hate PTs so much. Hey, fuckface, you've been flirting with this chick for ten minutes while she's been laying on the only bench in the gym and she hasn't done a single rep. I know her boobs look great flattened by gravity, but come the fuck on.

They're bigger than everyone in the gym.

>t. The PT's in my gym are ex bodybuilders who have records and trophies to show for it.

*good gym instructors

>listening to roider’s advice
never gonna make it

My gym has 4 instructors and as far as I can see none of their clients made any progress in over a year, they make them do (talking about dudes here) some stupid rows with the short bar and barely 20kg on it, some cable shit with no weight, quarter squats with pussy pad.

Meanwhile there are self training dudes who do basic barbell stuff (bench/dead/squat/ohp/rows/weighted pullups) who gained 15kg in that same time and look great. It's a fucking joke.

do you think its more so that the people with PTs aren't fully committing themselves to learning about their bodies, diets, routines etc while the self training dudes have more motivation and willpower to do it on their own?

I don't see how someone rowing 30kg for 7 months is gonna make any progress sorry, you are probably right the people who take PT's probably lack commitment or the desire to learn on their own and that limits their gains, but the PTs arent helping with their shit routines.

You dont need someone to tell you how to do cable curls, but you do need someone to tell you how to squat or deadlift properly..

>What are the traits of a good gym instructor?
You don't need them anymore after like 3 sessions when you have your form down and know the basics of setting up a routine. The shit ones keep you coming back for a new set of meme shit.

Their policy is to keep you occupied without getting you hurt, because no one wants to get sued. They take the easiest route and that's why training with them might be helpful only for fatasses who want to lose some weight and have no idea what to do.

The best trainer is a gym bro.

My gym has a high turn over of PTs, so every few weeks I have to run the gauntlet of an awkward conversation while they introduce themselves to me when I am between sets.

Then they ask my routine, goals etc...

Me being polite waiting for the sales pitch.

How can I politely tell them to fuck ,I'm not interested without getting a bad name at the gym?

Just tell them you're not interested.

Chances are you're more educated about programmes and form that the average PT anyway.

PT isn't a real job, it's basically a side hobby.

>mfw I see a """trainer""" and they're skinnyfat dyel mode

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PTs ain't shit. They just rip off idiots.

Get a proper coach if you want real advice. But you won't need one unless you're already experienced/plan on competing.

Hey its nice to meet you, but im doing my own thing and i know what im doing. Have a nice day though, good luck with your new job!

All the PTs at my gym are total jokes. I don't think they even lift, they just show the machines to new people and put them on machine workouts. I guess it's good because it keeps the noobs away from the free weights.

We also got this one pt who looks so much like Mike Ehrmantraut from BrBa. It's crazy. He'll just walk around the gym slowly and look at people without smiling. One day the lights will turn off while I'm squatting, I'll hear a few pops and when the lights turn back on a bunch of people will have been shot.

>mfw skinnyfat instructors show a dyel and a fattie how to QUARTERsquat the first day at my new gym

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every pt at my gym is a scam artist.

PTs are a meme for moms and fat people with no willpower

t. work at a gym and studying to be a PT

>tfw trainers dont even talk to me except to compliment me
I’m dyel but feels good

>I know her boobs look great flattened by gravity
explain?

I'm a qualified PT that I did it to become more competent at my own training, and so I could give better coaching at a school I work at where teachers are expected to help out.
It ended up being a very comprehensive course, a year long part time, with loads of nutrition info, dealing with fringe groups like pregnant women and working with physical therapists for guiding clients through pre or rehab.
Combo it with my science background, I have a decent knowledge on how body's move and what we're good at.
I love it when a newly qualified kid who did a 6 weekend course tries to give me advice, and I start throwing the actual reasonings behind training methodologies at them when they question what I'm doing.
It seems they really don't like people doing prehab work like jefferson curls for back, plyo push-ups using resistance bands or rotater cuff warm ups

Virgin

So since you say you know a lot about the human body, what's the best beginner workout plan?

Gaining crisp form and building up strength
Strength is needed for ppl/bodybuilder splits /etc, fastest way to build up rare strength is either StrongLifts and gain some muscle mass (and inevitably fat mass to be lost later), or other similar compound barbell systems like adapted SS, Greyskull etc.
Focus on the barbell compounds (bench, ohp, rows, deadlifts, squats) and bodyweight compounds (dips, pull/chin ups), basic movement patterns like lunging, hanging leg raises, planks, push ups, carrying, and mobility work.
After you have built a foundation of strength, form and mobility, you can jump in a program that is more hypertrophy or sport focused and make much better gains since you will be moving far more weight than if you started on a bodybuilding focused program.
This is not new info for anyone on this forum, the mechanics of exercise have been known for a long ass time.

what is a "qualified" PT? is there a standardized cert?

if someone started taalkin to me an saying that at the gym when i waws working out i would go fricken mental. if it happened more than once i think i would definatly attack someone no joke
i got peed off just readin that. try that at my gym and see what happens

Newfag dyel here, I recently got a new program from my instructor, I asked him why he gave me those specific exercises and he got mad at me. Why?

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Mad? In what way?
You shouldn't need an instructor, btw. Get rid of them as soon as you can.

lol if you pay for that

He grunted, rolled his eyes and said "listen it's difficult to explain ok? Just do the exercises" and walked away.

Sounds like you're making up a little bit of BS. Tell me the truth user, are you speaking out your ass?

No, he did that

Yup, there is bodies that will certify certain programs
However, I'm in Ireland, where there isn't a centralised regulatory body (yet) like what the UK has, that maintains certain standards countrywide.
But I'm a member of REPs, register of exercise professionals, which is an organisation that is attempting that for Europe, this will guarantee a level of quality, and its stopping the online qualification crowd at least.

>me. literally 5 months ago: azir bot is probably pretty strong
>afreeca: plays azir bog

virgin retard

My gym has 6 instructors:

4 didndus, 1 roach and 1 globino lady

One of the blacks is surrounded by gymbunnies 24/7. He doesn't seem to be doing actual training. Mostly just him chatting up women while the ladies half-arsedly do exercises. Globino is in charge of fitness and spin class. Turk is actually pretty decent at what he does, which is why women don't want to approach him, cause he actually makes them work out. Once I lose enough body fat, I will ask him to help me with strength exercise.

But how about the gym staff? I mean, those fuckers who work for the gym and take care of the customers? Should I tell them to fuck off? Do SS instead? I've read so much by now that everything sounds like a meme to me.

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>hey PTbro have any tips on learning to oly?
>lol why do you want to learn oly, just bench breh
EVERY FUCKING TIME
ASDASDJ

County?

It's both. Most people are lazy fucks and can't stick to routine or discipline and PTs know this, so just teach meme exercises.

One of my friends has been going to the gym for months and paying a PT $45 per session. Except in months he has made 0 progress, he's still a stick thin goblin but constantly bitches about how his PT is an ass hole.

Meath, though I work/study in Dublin

Continue the small talk, so you're not a dick and then politely decline.

In the US look for people with a CSCS, everything else isn't nearly as good.

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Anybody got a name for her?

>Good
-encourage healthy eating
-stress diet will make you see gains, lifting is secondary to this
-bigger than everyone or at least look like they are/were fit
-can talk a good game about healthy food, nutrition, and what works.
-don't try to sell you shit
-try to push you to do a little more every week
-keeps personal records of your lifting.

>Bad
-flirts with you
-seems to keep you doing the same exercise for long periods of time even when you aren't feeling the burn anymore
-tries to sell you X
-downplays diet
-pushes fad/gimmicky shit
-doesn't give a bro/buddy vibe

There is more but these should be enough to tell you if they are worth the risk. PT imo are only good if your a fat ass who needs to have someone hold you accountable or a millionaire who can hire competent people with a reputation on the line.

Drop him. Him trying to explain the exact details would probably go over your head at this point, but if he can't give a basic 1-2 sentence or paragraph explanation than it means he is full of shit or doesn't know.

Literally every PT I've seen except for one who was big jacked black dude.

Me and a lot of people changed gyms because the main instructor went to a new place, so for me it basically comes down to
>Knows what he is talking about but also researches things when he is not sure about something
>Corrects you when you are doing something wrong without being a cunt about it
>Is a chill guy
>Is not some DYEL or fat guy
>Cares about you to some degree

>high bar squat
>vertical shins
dropped

they should either have clients with medals or have medals themselves

Why women high bar squats looks like they are doing low bar squats?

>>my gym posts a video of some poor dyel who joined and got a program from the gym PT.
>>All he wanted to do was 10 push-ups. Took him 2 months to achieve this. He wasn't heavy or anything.
>>They post him doing the 10, praising him and his progress with the PT.
>>Watch the video, arms at 90 degrees. Poor form, watch him hump the ground for 30 seconds.
>>PT with a shit eating grin in the background.

I comment on video calling him out with pic related.
My comment gets deleted and I get a text from the gym, warning me not to comment anymore.

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Post the video
I want to see that

Trollem. Carry on w/ the workout, but get them to spot you, move pins up/down,add/remove plates, and so forth. Never fully decline PTing, lead them on that if they keep helping you, you'll help them.

Does this translate into bench form or is it only for pushups? I always thought I was suppose to be at 45 degrees.

Get big so they know you don't need a trainer in the first place?

I think 45 is acceptable. Probably better to be as tight to the body as possible. I always try and keep my elbows super close.

>All he wanted to do was 10 push-ups. Took him 2 months to achieve this. He wasn't heavy or anything.
I don't get how it could possibly take that long for a full grown man to achieve 10 push ups. Were they intentionally hindering ANY type of progress for two months? My God.

Right in the feels

They have good lifts, they know how to program, they know how to sell, they know how to push middle aged women through a useless kettlebell conditioning workout to keep the $$ coming in

I have no idea. They do a series of videos sometimes with the PT showing exercises. They are usually so cringey because his form is off.

Lay off the 'roids, brah...

dont hurt us big guy

You must look dyel

When people I know have a PT I ask them what they get them to do and 90% of it was bullshit, I took my friend to the gym and we started squatting, my friend was doing like 1/2 RM, I asked him if he was joking and he got pissy and told me the PT said it was right.

I've literally researched 100s of hours about fitness and nutrition and also studied biology and Chemistry, yet people think these retard PTs are right.

bone structures

I see PT's at my gym do this all time. However, I've been going to the gym for 3 months and not one has ever approached me.

Do I just have a resting bitch face that scares them off?

she's 19, atleast last time I checked, come back magic nigga

Play with it, but I've found tight to sides works best and tend to flare my elbows as form breaks down.