Jesus christ bugenhagen is absolutely massive in his new video

If you've had any interest in his work then you'd know for a fact that he's natty, denying it is a pathetic cope. If you don't even have the mindset that you can achieve something similar without gear then you're literally never gonna make it

how does he make such tremendous gains in a single year despite having already lifted for 20 years and maxing out his muscular potential

How do you know he maxed out his potential? Where does this info come from? He works out 2-3 times a day for multiple hours literally every day.

Bulgarian style lifting/max effort training in general. I made extreme gains when I switched to that approach.

Why isn't his buddy fairyland jacked? He trains the same way.

he stopped maxing out his lower body training because of knee surgery. lost a good amount of lower body mass, focused it all in to upper body. Omar just released a video about the same thing

I bet you think Mike O'Hearn is natty too

Why keep doubting he's natty when there's literal lab proof that he is along with him building his entire reputation off of it. It wouldn't make sense for him to be on gear, it'd destroy him while also being extremely difficult to do since he gets tested randomly for work. It's essentially retard conspiracy tier.

Are you insecure bro?

People always want an excuse why they look like shit.

Sup eric

possibly on roids, probably focusing alot on upper body because of the knee issue
his body is his job though, I don't blame him for blasting enough to get back to performance shape

>t. first year lifter

i dont know he looks unnatty but current year wwe is full cuck and uding steroids is toxic masculinity now. why risk his possible career?

stop shilling your shitty here, ugly

> newfags in early 2018
he trains everyday brah, of course he is at the natty limit

> bugenhagen gains like 10lbs of muscle in his upperbody, especially shoulders. while also drying out
> newfags in 2019
oh, he just started doing more pump work

/s

No, he's 6'0 and 230 ripped. Thats pretty much as large as you can get without pinning. He's a former D1 athlete which means that he's got the best genetics the genepool has to offer and has a job that allows him to pretty much work out all day if he wants too

The man has applied the same intensity and effort that he used to apply to his ungodly max sets to his pump work. That pump was absolutely sickening

>"Wow, dood, Eric looks massive, dood, haha"

Of course he does, you stupid faggot kid, he's a juicing piece of shit.

Yet again, you get these fucking moron kids that have been lifting half a year shilling this scumbag. Newsflash, you stupid sons of bitches: He's not fucking natural. Period. Even if he's not on shit now, he was when he was a kid- which permanently altered his fucking bodily chemistry. He ain't fucking natural, you fucking morons. Furthermore, he has no fucking balls and backstabbed the one guy who gave him fame, got him promotion in WWE NXT and asked for fucking nothing in return. And Eric talks shit about him behind his back with other YouTubers. YouTubers who never gave him exposure, who wouldn't even know who the fuck he was without AlphaDestiny. Furthermore, he makes numerous videos trying to make out as if Alex fakes lifts or whatever the fuck and tries to 'distance himself from him' for literally no reason outside of being a snake, vindictive prick. You can say "Hurr, hurr, you must be Alex, LOL!" but you know what I'm saying is true, you fucking idiot. He's a scumbag bastard who treats the one guy who gave him everything like dogshit. Fuck him.

>"Hurr, hurr, I love it when Eric screams, it's so fucking funny, dude! Every scream gets funnier and funnier! Like; "ROAAAAARGHGHHHHH!!!", fucking hilarious, man, fucking hilarious!"

Are you a fucking kid or something? Don't answer that. If you want "hilarious" screaming videos watch fucking Pewdiepie, you brain-damaged idiot.

Don't shill this piece of shit here again, you moron.

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Has anyone used blood restriction bands?

Doesn't he do WWE? What the fuck makes you think he's natty?

Shit bro, I don't even follow this YouTube drama bullshit and I can tell you have a fat boner for Alex. Do us all a favor and take it down a peg.

>but it's m-muh mindset
That's classic Nether-tier bullshit. Mindset is obviously important for self-confidence but it does NOT give you the kind of progress he made in one year. Bulgarian styled training is actually the literal worst possible approach to getting bigger because all you're doing is maximizing neuromuscular gains and make most of your progress without even needing to hypertrophy the muscle. Eric has said many many times that Bulgarian is very suboptimal for actual muscular development and overall hypertrophy. Another good example of Bulgarian not doing shit in terms of size is his buddy Dairyland.

Calm down Alex

Yo, Alex.

Lol fail photoshop tattoo not even same side

>how do mirrors work
you can't seriously be this fucking stupid hahaha

>everything is the exact same except the pose and the picture is flipped

Do you really think he’s on roids be honest

If anything he lies about his height but other than that he’s a insanely dedicated lifter who knows the ideal diet and workout routine to attain this aesthetic

He’s the guy who can dedicate 100% of his time to lifting because that’s what his lifestyle is it’s just lifting. I challenge you to dedicate just 50% of your lifestyle to lifting and your body goals and see how drastic the change is

>something you can buy from a supplement place even today
>somehow it’s steriods

You know what will happen if you drink a gallon of milk a day? You’ll bulk up like crazy! Is that steriods?

Cope destiny

>lost a good amount of lower body mass, focused it all in to upper body.
thats not how muscles work you troglodyte

Not him but those things (prohormones) get tackled by the FDA and are quickly made illegal for a reason. Do your research

Are you blind? He has far more musculature on the right. For example, look at where his lats meet the obliques. The obliques are FAR thicker.
Hard to believe that someone at his natty limit could continue to pack on that much muscle.

>everything is the exact same
His pecs are way bigger, his delts are noticably more capped despite not flexing them at all (like he is in the first), lats are much bigger, he's more ripped and dry, and has a very clearly defined upper and middle chest. Fucking delusional. Diet makes almost no difference to your appearance beyond calories in vs calories out. Also you even said he dedicates his entire life to lifting - do you really think someone who places THAT much of an importance on lifting and being huge WOULDN'T be on gear? He was even willing to try nicotine before workouts for a slightly better pump ffs. Now his career is riding on him looking huge and ripped all the time and suddenly he blew the fuck up in one year from pump training. You wanna guess what kinda guys pump training works well for btw?

i dont believe eric is natty, but you're wrong

nowadays, OTC pro-hormones are more like pre-hormones. they "signal" your body to synthetize a specific hormone by itself, that's why they are supposedly legit even after all this time. 100% pseudoscience

late 90s/early 2000s pro hormones were pretty much dbol and anadrol with fancy names. I had a friend who did a cycle of O.G. MDrol back in 2009 and he gained some quality 20lbs with a meme routine and a shitty diet (his hair also shed, so it was definitely some good ol' juice)

vitaminshoppe.com/p/methyl-1-d-disc-325-mg-90-capsules/l3-1013

You can buy them right now you fucking dumbass

Yeah he’s big and natural it’s uncanny Ik but it’s not some impossible thing especially when all day everyday getting bigger is the goal

>yeah bro he tried nicotine why wouldn’t he try roids?

Why would he try nicotine if roids are giving him the results he needs?

Plus there isn’t any difference in those pics. He’s actually less lean in the right pic look at the lower abdominal definition. Plus his shoulders look different because of the pose lmao
>flexing his shoulders
Lmao that pose isn’t even a shoulder flexing pose good lord

>Yeah he’s big and natural it’s uncanny Ik but it’s not some impossible thing especially when all day everyday getting bigger is the goal
There is such thing as a natty limit. You do know that the longer you lift, the harder it is to make gains, right?

>You can buy them right now you fucking dumbass
Yeah til they aren't anymore you fucking moron. My point is they're legal for a little bit and then they get made illegal by the FDA. Do you read?

>oh this spike in strength after lifting for 15 years? um i started using nicotine as pre workout
>oh i added 20lbs of lean mass after 15 years of lifting? i started doing pump workouts
>oh i added 2 inches to my arms in 18 months after 15 years of lifting? i used these pump straps
this guy is so full of shit dont know whos worse him or his faggot fans

you sound like someone who uses roman statues as your social media profile pics

>spike in strength
He's weaker than he's ever been
>20lbs lean muscle
Are you fucking kidding me? Do those before and after pictures look like 20lbs of LEAN muscle? Hahahaha oh my
>2inches to my arms
With a good pump my arms grow an inch and a half easy and I've never used those pump straps

Cope more...holy shiiiiit

I’m well aware of this, however most people who reach their natty limit can never dedicate more time to lifting simply due to circumstance. Bugehange is a rarity that he’s capable of dedicating all his time to lifting hence why he’s far above what most consider the natty limit. People like Steve reeves for instance dedicate their life to their physique and can attain insane bodies

>Hahahaha oh my
i see this is one of his dickriding fans he was adding pounds on pounds of weight to all the "lifts" he was doing when he said he was "on nicotine"
look at much bigger in everyway, delts, lats, chest all a lot fuller
im sure ur arms grow 1.5" lmao but whats ur favourite part of his videos? is it how he does the yelling and goofy titles, its so funny when he say "hi guys ric tha stick here" gets an upvote from me

based alpha impersonator

>youtube.com/watch?v=Krs83GDm800
>s-s-stay natty guys i definitely did
such a fraud

i don't think eric is natty either but i wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't taking stuff then. he looks totally different now

i know back then when he was getting traction on fit everyone gave him the benefit of the doubt and said he was natty but at the limit and now hes way bigger than that

These videos are for gay men, right?

Y'all are retarded. The lift pic was after he stopped lifting for a whole month. Obviously he will look smaller and regain his muscle mass again afterwards.

It brings me peace inside when I picture you typing that message out. I don't know what it is. Maybe it's the way you talk or maybe the way you project.

It just makes me so happy to be me and not living whatever shitfest it is that you call a life.

I don't watch any of those YouTube personalities, the thought of giving them money for producing videos turns my stomach (call it jealousy if you will). I'm only vaguely familiar with these personalities because of Jow Forums.

I've been lifting for 10 years and I've seen a lot of steroid users in my gym. If he IS on steroids and that was his 1 year transformation he should be ashamed. And if you can't get over an inch pump on your arms you are a fucking dyel twink.

...

also weird you thought about me or my life at all fag lol

>If he IS on steroids and that was his 1 year transformation he should be ashamed
shit point. 90% of guys on gear don't look anywhere near as good as he does, especially considering absolute twinks blast shit now with how prevalent it is

So the presumption is he's been on gear for years..which coupled with a twice a day everyday work ethic would get you fucking huge...or the presumption is he was natural for a while but this last year he has been blasting...which coupled with his physique as a baseline would still be shit progress for 1 year..

I'm kinda lost as to what the assumptions are now.

Didn't say he was blasting. Do you seriously think steroids turn you into fucking Ronnie Coleman? He's been lifting for 20 years anyway, with gear you aren't going to fucking BLOW UP when you're normally lucky to maybe add a lb or 2 of muscle a year at the most

I appreciate what you're saying. I know low doses on gear dont have magical powers, I get that and I think we are both smarter than the conversation we are having.

It was just the claim/notion that he put on 20lbs of LEAN muscle in one year just had me so dumbfounded I couldn't help but comment.

Yeah I agree he definitely didn't add 20 lbs, but it was still significant enough this late in his lifting career to warrant skepticism