/fast/ - #374 - OPINIONS WITHOUT EXPERIENCE EDITION

Cole fasted himself down to 7%, so there's that.

Does anyone else get queasy when they drink tea on a fast? I switched to coffee and it doesn't do that.

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Perfect plan. Go get it, brother.

That's the tannins doing that. White and green teas will have less.

WORKS WELL.

IF YOU FEEL GOOD AND YOU'RE GETTING STRONGER, THEN YOU'RE DOING GOOD.

>You may drink coffee, drink tea, take your multivitamin, smoke cigs, smoke weed, and whatever the hell
MOST OF THOSE ARE INDICATIVE OF ADDICTIVE BEHAVIOR, SOMETHING THAT LED PEOPLE TO BE FAT AND/OR UNHEALTHY IN THE FIRST PLACE. THEIR SOFT APPROACH TO ALL OF THOSE DRUGS WILL LEAD TO LONG TERM ISSUES WHICH FASTING MAY NO LONGER FIX. FURTHERMORE, ADDICTIVE BEHAVIOR TENDS TO FAVOR RELAPSING, SOMETHING THAT SELF-DISCIPLINE TAKES CARE OF. AND FOR THOSE THAT HAVE RELAPSED, FAILED AT OTHER DIETS, OR ARE JUST GENERAL FUCK UPS, DO YOU THINK THEY NEED A SOFTY TO HELP GUIDE THEM, OR DO YOU THINK CONFRONTING THEM WITH THE TRUTH WOULD BE MORE EFFECTIVE?
FASTING IS FOR YOUR HEALTH, AND ALL OF YOUR LITTLE VICES DON'T ATTRIBUTE TO IT.
>Fasting does not mean you have to adopt an ascetic lifestyle.
ABSTAINING FROM SMOKING OR DRINKING COFFEE DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOUR LIFE NO LONGER HAS FUCKING MEANING OR FURTHER ENJOYMENT. OVERALL AND LONG TERM HAPPINESS DO NOT COME FROM CAFFEINE, NICOTINE, OR VITAMINS.
YOU CAN CONTINUE TO SUPPORT SHITTY LIFESTYLE HABITS THAT SNOWBALL IN TO BIGGER PROBLEMS (SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE) WHILE I FOLLOW THE STRICT ROUTE. SOMETHING I SHOULD HAVE DONE A LONG, LONG TIME AGO.
>Self discipline doesn't mean being miserable.
CORRECT. YOU CAN BE SELF DISCIPLINED AND HAPPY.
ALSO, FOR A LOT OF FATTIES, FASTING COINCIDES WITH SELF-IMPROVEMENT. BUT WHAT DO YOU KNOW? YOU THINK FASTING IS JUST EATING LESS.

YES, THAT'S ONE WAY PROLONGED FASTS CAN HELP.

IF YOU'RE ON VACATION, WHY NOT TRY LOSING THE WEIGHT EARLIER AND ADJUSTING AFTER?

Coles job is to fast himself down to 7%. Unless you have a show coming up I'd suggest you spread out your weight loss. I hit snake juice pretty hard hitting OMAW and loss 30lbs in 4 weeks. I am going to try and hit 10% bf by summer which is me losing another 15-20lbs. Currently >20%bf. Obliques and abs are faint so thats my guess.

Yep especially black tea.

stop drinking alcohol you degenerate.
prob pretty decent tho.

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>fatty calling others fat
>not even fasting longer than 23H
HAHAHAHAHA

Hey /fast/,

Big-time advocate here.

Will the ingredients in this testosterone booster trigger a metabolic response and break my fast?

Vitamin B6
Folic acid
Vitamin B12
Zinc
D-aspartic acid (DAA)
Tribulus fruit extract
Boron citrate
Ashwagandha root and leaf extract
Safed musil root extract
Yacon root
Olive leaf extract
Microcrystaline cellulose coating
Titanium Dioxide
Polyethylene
Glycol
Talc
Stearic Acid
Croscarmellose Sodium
Magnesium Stearate
Crospovidone
Sillicon Dioxide
Hydrocypropyl Cellulose
Acesulfame-Potassium

Can I OMAD on 800 calories and lose weight? I'm a 260lb 5'11 fat fuck. What rate will I burn fat at?

I have been doing IF for a good while now, but I recently got the flu. Fever, runny nose and the usual stuff. Is It a good idea to continue IF while sick?

Thanks in advance.

Losing clout here, my man

Do whatever feels best. Rest and recovery are more important than fasting.

Dear lord don't starve yourself you uneducated lil *. You just have to be in a calorie deficit. Say normal days u get 2400 calories, u could go to 2k or even 1600 but not lower and you should see results losing weight. However, this is not creating lmt, its just losing some fat.

HERE'S YOUR DAILY COPYPASTA FOR BUMPING THE THREAD:
DO YOU REALLY THINK WHAT YOU SAY WILL CHANGE WHAT I DO? YOU'RE JUST A RUN OF THE MILL HATER THAT I HAVE TO DEAL WITH ON A DAILY BASIS.

IF THOSE 800 CALORIES ARE FROM NO CARB, OF COURSE, BUT I DON'T RECOMMEND IT. DO A SNAKE JUICE FASTING ROUTINE, MINIMUM OF 72S, WITH REFEEDS BEING NO MORE THAN A POUND AND NO CARB. STEAK AND EGGS ARE THE SIMPLEST REFEEDS, THE MORE RAW IT IS THE BETTER IT IS FOR YOUR BOWEL MOVEMENTS.

DO 24-48H DRY FASTS FOR RECOVERY THEN GO BACK TO WHATEVER ROUTINE YOU WERE ON. EATING FOOD WILL NOT HEAL YOU, IT WILL EXACERBATE IT.

CLOUT IS NOT MY MOTIVE.

Probably the same as calling a doctor to give you lactated ringer's. More effective than other legal options and more hydrating but I've gotten past the point of getting horrible hangovers so can't really comment.

Fuck you Bush Sr. make testosterone uncontrolled again.

Yes, that's basic CICO. Eat low-carb so you don't feel miserable. You'll lose about 1lb/day from my experience.

Fuck you guys. I disregarded all your advice in the last thread and tossed some citric acid into my snake juice. Automatically a dozen times more palatable. It did get kind of fizzy though, I think from the baking soda-citric acid reaction. But even that is kind of a nice distraction from the original, shitty diluted salt flavor.

Use a straw to avoid damaging your teeth.

Not a bad idea, I'll keep it in mind. But holy shit, this just went from disgusting to actually okay. I'm incredibly surprised.

Did you try putting baking soda in your previous mixture? Made it miles better for me.

Baking soda's already in there. I never tried a recipe without it, so I wouldn't know. I guess I'm probably lucky in that sense, if it's really bad. I just like having at least one more flavor dimension to the drink rather than just "salty" - having sour in there helps cut that very well.

>IF YOU'RE ON VACATION, WHY NOT TRY LOSING THE WEIGHT EARLIER AND ADJUSTING AFTER?
I don't wanna do multiple day fasts right now for fear of getting diarrhea and other complications at work.
My main planned activity for my summer vacation is "lying around in the sun," so I might as well go the extra mile of laziness and just not even get up to make food or go out to eat.

I don't drink a lot of alcohol, but when I was looking for effervescent electrolyte tablets, I noticed that a lot of them were being marketed as anti-hangover meds. Makes sense, seeing how the hangover headache is largely caused by dehydration.

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For what it's worth, the worst I've had at work is when everyone showed up for lunch and I wasn't eating anything. I told them I was doing OMAD, with dinner being the meal, when I was actually just fasting. No ill effects besides that. Plus, having tasks to do really takes your mind off of the "man, I could really go for a burger right about now. I'll just start tomorrow." mindset.

HONESTLY, NOT EATING IS THE LAZIEST WAY FOR A PERSON TO LOSE BODY FAT, AND IT HAPPENS TO BE THE BEST. I JUST DON'T PROMOTE IT THAT WAY BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL THINK THAT YOU CAN'T DO ANY ACTIVITY WHILE FASTING.

IF YOU'RE NOT A GRAVITY PULLING FATTY, HAVE NO HEALTH ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF, AND YOU'RE IN NO HURRY TO LOSE FAT, THEN YOUR PLAN SOUNDS GOOD.

That's not an issue at all, I've experimented with fasting in the past and talked with my colleagues about it. They generally respect me as a somewhat excentric but knowledgeable guy with a decent work ethic. But I always did get some adverse effects when I went for longer than 48 hours, like headaches, diarrhea and drowsiness. Fainting and shitting my pants while I'm in the middle of a conversation with a coworker or a client seems like a very real possibility, and I definitely don't want that.

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How do I get rid of the perma shitty taste on my tongue. I can't think about anything else but that. I want to eat or really drink a soda to get the taste off my tongue. Its been so long that I don't get hungry anymore but that fucking taste. It gets worse and worse.

Brush your tongue, it's probably white and disgusting.

24 hours gone by
696 hours to go

I do, no luck.

>be me
>fat 31 yo boomer going back to college after 7 years
>start fasting for losing weight
>shreding pounds like never before
>zoomie freshman cutie ask me where the cafeteria is
>awkwardly point in the direction
>ask me if I want to grab something to lunch
>"I-I don't eat"
>literally instantly turn my back on her and start fast striding away

why am I retarded

>turn

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She was expecting you to pay, good thing your autism saved the day based boomer

I'm the guy who failed at 76 hours a few days ago. I ate my meal and went back at it. I'm not at 61 hours again. This time I'm going to do it.

now at*

have you tried stop being a degenerate

IS IT FROM BAD BREATH OR KETO BREATH? IF IT'S THE FORMER, IT'S FROM YOUR BODY DETOXING ALL OF THE SHIT FROM YOUR BODY. IT'LL BE GONE ONCE YOU'RE LEAN.
IF IT'S FROM KETO BREATH, THEN YOU'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT.

GOOD. MUCH EASIER THIS TIME, ISN'T IT?

Ketofag here

I accidently ate more carbs than I thought. How long till its digested so I can run to drop my blood sugar back down? I dont want to leave ketosis

>GOOD. MUCH EASIER THIS TIME, ISN'T IT?

I-I think so

So I've been doing interminent fasting (I think) for a few years now because I'm too poor to have lunch at work. Basically I wake up, go to work without eating anything and only eat a meal when I get home in the afternoon (16h) and another before I sleep (00h). Anything else I should do or is this fine?

what are your stats and goals, my dude?

DON'T EAT

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I'm 1,81m and 82kg and started to lift on january 3rd because my body is garbage mostly because I have no chest. So I guess my goal is to have a decent enough body which I'm aiming to get in 1~2 years.

My lifts stalled. Doing OMAD on MWF with fasted cardio, and eating maintenance and 3 meals on TThS with weights. Overall at a deficit for calories. I am slowly losing weight. My 72 hr fast caused my lifts to actually go down, if you intend on trying that as well.

Anyone have evidence that prolonged fasting or IF doesn't burn muscle? Preferably not anecdotal. I read the linked studies and did not see anything in there.

what the other guy said. basically, if you're working hard, you're gonna feel bad changes pretty quickly. so if you feel nothing but better, go for it, if it's actually bad for you, you'll find out soon and can just switch then. listen to your body, that's the whole initial point of diets of any kind. it's not for you to follow them like they're a religion, just a suggestion for what might work for you

Redpill me on OMEOD

just keep lifting. maybe throw in a few 48s or a 72 every week maybe. im no expert though and i weigh a good 100lbs more than you. check out the snake diet videos on youtube if youre more curious
best of luck.

WHAT'S STOPPING YOU FROM RUNNING IN THE FIRST PLACE? JUST FAST FOR 48 HOURS AND YOU'LL BE IN KETOSIS.

HAVE MORE FUCKING CONFIDENCE IN YOURSELF YOU FATTY!

YOU CAN REDUCE IT OMAD OR OMEOD IF YOU WANT FASTER WEIGHT LOSS. IF YOU WANT TO BURN FAT, THERE'S NO REASON TO HAVE YOUR EATING WINDOW BE GREATER THAN 4 HOURS AT YOUR STATS.

PROLONGED FASTING BURNS MUSCLE, IT JUST BURNS LESS MUSCLE THAN MULTIPLE MEALS A DAY AT A CALORIC DEFICIT. MY SOURCE IS FROM THE OBESITY CODE BY DR. FUNG. I THINK AROUND CHAPTER 16-18, CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHERE.

Yeesh, fuck off

THANKS FOR THE BUMP. HERE'S YOUR COPYPASTA:
DO YOU REALLY THINK WHAT YOU SAY WILL CHANGE WHAT I DO? YOU'RE JUST A RUN OF THE MILL HATER THAT I HAVE TO DEAL WITH ON A DAILY BASIS.

What? I just wanted to know when I should run, not if. I run every day regardless

And why would you assume I should fast right now? I do fasts, but I'm just coming off one and I'm near my target weight so there isn't a need right this moment. You're really obnoxious

hi cole
i lost 100lbs since april
i didn't do it all by fasting but i need cole's screaming to get me in the mindset, the longest i went was a 5 day fast, i did lots of 48s and 72s

the 'common knowledge' on digestion an hour

>i lost 100lbs since april
Kind of curious. What is your weight? Did you use any drugs?

is an hour* before it's mostly in your blood and out of your small intestine

was 315
214 atm
i was smoking weed most of the time, i lost 80lbs before i started adderall (ADHD) and it didn't help the weight loss at all, quit weed recently, started hitting the gym seriously a month ago, was riding my bike in my hilly town for exercise while fasting.

YOU'RE MISINTERPRETING MY QUESTION AND STATEMENT.
>I just wanted to know when I should run,
I WASN'T CLEAR:
WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THAT YOU SHOULDN'T RUN UNTIL THE CARBS THAT YOU ATE ISN'T DIGESTED? AND YOU ALREADY LEFT KETOSIS BY EATING CARBS.
>And why would you assume I should fast right now?
WHEN I SAY FAST FOR 48 HOURS, THAT WOULD GET YOU BACK IN TO KETOSIS SO YOU CAN DO SOME FASTED CARDIO. IS THAT YOUR MAIN CONCERN?

GOOD JOB ON THE WEIGHT LOSS. YOU NEED THE MINDSET BECAUSE IT'S PATH TO RETAINING THE LIFESTYLE.

>Digestion time varies between individuals and between men and women. After you eat, it takes about six to eight hours for food to pass through your stomach and small intestine. Food then enters your large intestine (colon) for further digestion, absorption of water and, finally, elimination of undigested food.

Okay cole larp nigger i "left" ketosis but it isn't a binary thing, you can still get benefits eating up to 20g carbs a day depending on excersise

I already ran but I just wanted to know if I could lower my blood sugar by running and do some damage control.

if you already ran i don't really understand the problem, you ate after you ran? just do some push ups if you want the sugar out of your blood so bad, that should recruit the metabolic functions to your muscles to store or convert the sugar

Reminder to ignore caps poster. He thinks "copying" cole makes him an authority figure. Worst kind of identityfag and worst element of these threads. His posts are pure autism and he sounds like a fat person.

>ketosis but it isn't a binary thing,
BUT IT IS. YOU'RE EITHER IN OR YOU'RE OUT. YOUR LIVER GLYCOGEN LEVEL IS THE SOLE FACTOR OF KETOSIS. HOWEVER, EATING 20G OF CARBS IS ONLY GOING TO KICK YOU OUT OF KETOSIS FOR NO MORE THAN AN HOUR OR EVEN LESS, NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT AT YOUR LEVEL.
>I already ran but I just wanted to know if I could lower my blood sugar by running and do some damage control.
OF COURSE YOU CAN. WHY WOULD YOU THINK YOU CAN'T? THIS IS A LEGITIMATE QUESTION OUT OF CURIOSITY.

THANKS FOR THE BUMP. HERE'S YOUR COPYPASTA:
DO YOU REALLY THINK WHAT YOU SAY WILL CHANGE WHAT I DO? YOU'RE JUST A RUN OF THE MILL HATER THAT I HAVE TO DEAL WITH ON A DAILY BASIS.

i like text cole, i don't really watch video cole anymore, quit bitching fatty

>i have to deal with haters
You're a fucking nobody. Get a grip, fatboy.

No sorry I was orginally asking when I should run, not if. By now I have already ran so the question is null except for future reference
Again I was more wondering when I should run to knock out that blood sugar as quickly as possible. Like when it would be digested so I could maximize the effects of my daily run

IT DOESN'T BOTHER ME THAT I'M A NOBODY, BUT MY EXISTENCE BOTHERS YOU, CLEARLY. MAKES ME GLAD TO KNOW I'M A BETTER PERSON THAN YOU. HERE'S YOUR COPYPASTA:
DO YOU REALLY THINK WHAT YOU SAY WILL CHANGE WHAT I DO? YOU'RE JUST A RUN OF THE MILL HATER THAT I HAVE TO DEAL WITH ON A DAILY BASIS.

I THINK IN TERMS OF YOUR GOALS (TO KNOCK OUT THAT BLOOD SUGAR ASAP) THE BEST TIME TO RUN IS WHEN YOU'RE ABLE TO RUN THE FURTHEST AT THE HIGHEST INTENSITY.

I would assume it would be best to wait for the carbs to enter the bloodstream before running

Just finished a 2 hour fast. I already feel the weight difference this is amazing

*24

IF YOU HAVE A WAY TO MEASURE YOUR BLOOD SUGAR, TEST THAT HYPOTHESIS. SOUNDS SOLID. BUT REALLY, AT 20G OF CARBS, EVEN BEING SEDENTARY WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT.

NOW I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU:
WHY DID YOU ASK THAT QUESTION IN A FAST THREAD?

Beause I needed a fast response

Your input is so worthless it's actually comical

badum tssssssss

do I need to take my time breaking a 48hr fast? or can I just eat a meal and return to fasting?

THANKS FOR SPENDING YOUR TIME ON ME AND BUMPING THE THREAD. ALSO, HAVE YOU RUN OUT OF CREATIVE RESPONSES? SEEMS LIKE IT'S BEEN THE SAME FOR WEEKS NOW. HERE YOU GO:
DO YOU REALLY THINK WHAT YOU SAY WILL CHANGE WHAT I DO? YOU'RE JUST A RUN OF THE MILL HATER THAT I HAVE TO DEAL WITH ON A DAILY BASIS.

HEHE ALRIGHT I'LL LET THIS ONE SLIDE.

YOU CAN EAT ANYTHING ON A 48, BUT DO YOU *NEED* TO EAT?

Ok real question, how many of you guys fasting lift?

Like actually lift, 1k club? Wanna know if ill be able to continue the gym on a prolonged fast.

No.

user...

okay so it's day 2 and i'm literally pissing out of my asshole

does the diarrhea stop eventually?

Not in the 1k but I have a friend who is. He just finished a 5 day fast and got shredded.

Day 2 is usually it, followed by semi diarrhea days after but never as bad as day 2.

She was looking to #metoo you. You're older it would've gotten her social justice points and a well funded GoFundMe. You did good because you avoided the trap.

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what amounts of electrolytes should i be taking in during a water fast (in like, mg)? planning my first one

I am at like 500 calories a day. I also drink 2L of water before bed. What else should I be doing? I am not fasting, but that low a calorie count makes it relevant to post here. Also, is this user right?

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>ate one 700cal meal yesterday
>weight exactly the same this morning
This is extremely frustrating lads. Is it because of water retention?

oi capsbro

will I fuck my metabolism if I do 42 hr fast (alternate day fast + intermitted fasting basically) and then also eat on deficit on that day?

Or should I just eat maintenance on feeding day?

Dont want my TDEE to fall

>not adding boron

It's about consistency man. Don't expect any meaningful results after one meal or one day of fasting.

i agree with ya bro this is how i live now