What makes a man attractive?

>however most people are not so ugly that they can't improve to at least 6/10 facially
>most people can be better than average

what did he mean by this

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Guys, let’s cut out the bullshit. The honest truth is none of us have any idea what makes a man attractive. I say this because I have seen tons of men who appeared to have absolutely none of the traits I (like you) assumed to be attractive, and yet the man has multiple women interested in him at any given time.

Now, I have never experienced this myself, I have done all the self improving one can do, and even at 32 years old I’ve never had that female interest towards me, it’s as if I lack some kind of invisible quality or aura that makes women attracted to a man. I don’t understand it and I never will. Even my younger cousin, Manlet, ugly, big nose, NEET, lives with his mom, he has some how managed to always have a GF, and not bad looking either, infact pretty and cute and not fat GFs. I’ve never understood it myself, but for some reason he can have multiple girls wanting to be his GF at any one time, despite having nothing going on for him job wise, looks wise or money wise and yet he still has a steady stream of relationships and pussy.

I believe some of us just lack the invisible aura (pheromones, perhaps?) that makes women attracted to us, and some guys just have really strong pheromones that more women sense and become irrationally and illogically attracted to.

I’ve seen too many rich, or tall, or model tier incels in my life too many disgusting slob poor cunts getting g pussy all day to believe it only comes down these specific qualities we think are it.

I’m seriously starting to think there is for sure some kind of pheromones or aura that some men have, and some men don’t.

Height, facial features, frame, upperbody musculature, money/status.
>r/blackpillscience

Not him but I would assume he means that people have the ability to improve their looks to above average (provided that everyone else doesn’t do the same)

Ie. user is a 5 with acne and gets rid of it, becomes a 7 (provided everyone else doesn’t do the same)

This

Why do females find extremely highT faces repulsive?
I know the most macho guys can get is a 6/10 goblina

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I don't take the scale to be based on an average, to me that makes 0 sense. If everyone looked like Gandy then everyone would be a 9/10. There would be no 4/10s. It makes no sense if you consider the scale to be reflective of the human psyche in anyway unless you want to model some kind of local attractiveness, i.e. be the most attractive man a woman has access to. But even then there has to be a simultaneous objective scale running alongside it because a woman/man could always deny all his available options if they don't meet objective standards.
Objective scale is more useful than an average scale. Also as a window into how women think if dating sites are any indication, they tend to rate 80% of men as below average and then 20% of men as above average lol. You want to be in that 20%. To women if you're not at least a 7/10 you might as well be a 2/10. That being said you can make up for a 6/10 face once you get it by excelling in other areas.

Ranked in order of importance

>face
>height
>charisma
>hair
>job/prospects
>Jow Forumsness
>skin
>brains

I've never seen this reflected in my real life. Attractive dudes have GFs. Never seen a genuine looksmatch in my age group where the dude is uglier than the girl either but I see the reverse quite often.

t. a schizo

Post face

Fake and gay.
When women say that they want confident men, what they mean is that they want chad to approach them, not some ugly piece of shit.
t. Chad who was shy in the past due to being a fatass as a teenager

obvious lie
>I’ve seen too many rich, or tall, or model tier incels
Literally never encountered a tall, rich, model tier incel. They don't exist.
>too many disgusting slob poor cunts getting g pussy all day
never encountered this either unless its clear bottom shelf girls.
If all you want to do is fuck someone and you don't give a shit about rejection then finding someone to bang will be easy and is literally just a matter of time. We all know this. Self improvement is about finding a quality mate.

Here. Went from a 3/10 to a 8/10.

Memes aside, I’m not going to post my face after I just shit talked my cousin, what he sees this.

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>>Facial attractiveness.Certain aspects of this you can't do much about.
Haircut, facial hair, creams, low bodyfat

You seriously think your cousin browses Jow Forums? Just post your face.

Being tall

-t. manlet

Just post it, keep it up for ten minutes, and then delete it.

He does. He’s a 4channer NEET that spams NEET Pepes to troll waggies. God I actually want to post it, FUCK.

see
your cousin sounds based by the way

Also about my cousin, he has hot half-sister, that’s the only thing I’ve ever thought. Does girls seeing him with pictures of him and his hot half-sister make them think he’s some high value guy? That’s the only thing I’ve been able to make sense of with his ability to always have a gf or girl interested in him.

negative canthal tilt is a death sentence

youtube.com/watch?v=22gtSCJd9jA

JUST

BE

TALL

Have you ever heard about archives?

christ what a brutal blackpill

dude you're such a pussy

'attractive' must be distinguished into two things
- sex appeal (sexy);
which is biological and defined through evolutionary changes, ie traits and characters that are instinctively preferred/deterred purely due to perceived survival benefit/deficit. Because of this, sex appeal is highly objective with predefined standards that can ultimately be boiled down to signs of strength and weakness relevant to basic survival (musculature, bone structure, size or health signals such as hair, skin, etc.). There is nothing profound behind this attraction other than instinct and it can be felt in an instant with the attraction being directly towards the object.

- aesthetics (beautiful);
aesthetics on the other hand transcends sex appeal entirely and is mostly an internalized attraction based on the 'idea' of the object rather than the actual object, making it highly subjective and far more complex than sex appeal. Symmetry, proportionality, skin colour, expression, personality/mannerism etc. fall in this category. The attraction in this case is not directly associated to the object itself, but through that which is expressed through the object.

its only when you have a combination of the two that you truly become attractive

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It's 50/50 looks/actions for average looking people (personality/confidence), with that ratio becoming smaller as you breach into attractive territory

I bet your a 5'6" beta manlet who backstabs Chad's and ruins their reputation s so you can sleep with their women

>tfw you are chad but still khhv
I look better than 95% of the guy out there.
Girls look at me obessively, smile, lick their lips, blush. But don't approach me.
I know i should approach, but i'm too scared and don't know what to say.

The only thing that incel shit proves is that most guys do, in fact, look like shit.

You fucking faggots somehow expect women to lower their collective standards just because most modern men are fucking disgusting couch potatoes. But they shouldn't, and they don't.
This graph should be an encouragement to do better. Women want manly men, despite what the Jewish media have been trying to push.

What makes a man attractive is females saying a man is attractive, and vice versa.
Thus the ultimate key to being attractive is to start early, win over at least one girl in your childhood, and the rest follow in a chain of envy, a desire to cuckquean one another, and an urge to get you to say that they're better than your current/ex-gf.

Failing that, play a sport thats popular in your country and be at least proficient at it. When you play a sport and you're not the bottom string team cuck, all of your failings become 2x point multipliers. You get double points if you're a virgin, christcuck, or straight edge because females will want to say they were the one that corrupted the athlete. After exploiting your multipliers, refer to the cuckquean chaining described above.

All else fails, just be rich. You'll get pussy, but odds are any girl there is just there for the money. Don't be surprised to find out if you get cheated on.

Anyone that can't adhere to these rules is just gonna have to fumble around in the dark their whole life, sorry.

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invariably
>reliability
>confidence

these are the two most consistent (and you can figure this logically) factors for attractiveness.
source: my ass.

>t. retard

my whole theory is that feminist exists because the males are getting shittier
if you're into the whole hypermasculine thing and believe that women are inferior, it fits perfectly. the men aren't doing their job and aren't keeping things in order, so the dumb woman is reacting to it

It is the opposite.
Since women gained economical indipendence and contraceptive technology, they have invreased their standards.
But since there are not enough Chad in this world, for every woman.
The ugly anf average women, after being pumped and dumped by Chads became bitter towards men in general especiallythose who are genetically inferior, and thus some of these women become feminists. Instead of becoming more humble and settling down with their looks match.

how is that bad exactly

If you're an average man.

bull, an average dude will still get a girl, though it depends on what you define as average

5'8, average face (pic related)

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maybe its worse in america but he looks fine and wouldnt have probs getting a girl. i guess we'll see how bad it gets in a few years

this

>reliability
Beta bux
>confidence
Chad pounding her ass

I'm really curious to know what type of person makes a post like that

A guy who was very confident but fat and didn't get any puccy till he lost weight.
Same behaviour different looks = different outcome, which means behavoiur has little to no importance.

>What makes a man attractive?
being himself

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When will it work out for me?

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Cope
If you were really attractive you would not have problems getting laid.

Height, status, and wealth.
Adherence to traditional gender roles is a big one. I think in the modern era of #metoo and feminism a lot of men fall for the trap of thinking women want equality. But even feminist women are attracted to men who are assertive and dominant, and you do have to approach her and take the initiative. If you try to follow feminist dating advice she will be turned off and reject you for not being assertive enough

Attractive face

t. Lanklet

>man attractive
Everything that is generally considered as desirable. Basically asthetic of face and body, social power (money, intelligence, assertiveness), positive personality traits etc. It's not rocket science.

Similar studies have been done on tinder user. This isn't the first time data like this comes up.

Looking like me.

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Which bogdanov brother are you?

>8/10

LMAO

stop making these threads here, this is a fitness board, there are dedicated websites for your topic

There are obvious things that attract women and the reason of why they have a gf is this:
>outgoing
>fun
>confident
>holds a conversation, makes people laugh
>at least look manly if he's not pretty
>good body on last place
The most important trait a guy must have is being confident and to approach a girl (everything that that entails). Men were, throughout history those who conquered, took what they wanted, chased after girls, etc. If you don't have that, your looks, muscles, money means shit. Girl can give you all kinds of signals that she's interested but if you don't make the first move, it's all for nothing.

Confidence is the king.

Competence and exploitability (how good a man is at something and how much that thing can contribute to the wealth of the woman) is the second. Females would include in this also the POSSIBILITY to acquire competence and expendability.

ALL the rest is just bait. Or something alluring. You can attract TO A BIG EXTENT female's attention with your look... But with little confidence and competence you are worth shit for them.

>I’ve seen too many rich, or tall, or model tier incels in my life too many disgusting slob poor cunts getting g pussy all day
Reminds me of one post on FB that said something about men can be rich and pretty but women lust over that guy who lives in a shack, smokes weed whole day but fucks the best. And 99% of girls, hundreds of them agreed. What you said is true. If you don't have that "big dick energy", it's useless.

This

Women don’t like hyper masculine looking men. It just looks gross. Only closet dykes and uggos are into guys like that.

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It is over.

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t. autist

They do, you just need to compensate it with friendly and playful personality. Sadly, in [current year] any macho-looking man triggers way too many insecurities.

>itt retards that don't understand what women mean by confidence or ex above average looking shy guys
Women fon't want this guy (pic related)to be confident with them, and no matter what he says or does theybwill never feel attraction to him (unless surgery).

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Can't even aproach someone in a work/ school enviroment? Shit man, all you ahve to do is say hi and keep the spaghetti in your pockets

Maybe if you’re a beta

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Genetically average traits in a population

I.e (white, brown hair brown eyes, 100 iq, average build, 5’10, symmetrical “normal” face, “shower” penis, average penis size, averageness)

The more of a genetic outlier you are the less likely you are to breed.

Life is about fitting in

Why would we produce advise for the extreme anomalies?

> beeing as average as possible is the secret way to get women

Is this 4d chess?

>I’ve never had that female interest towards me
Two big things you seem to be missing:

Female interest doesn't just happen unless you are incredibly desirable. Losers who manage to get laid go out and work on persuading girls to sleep with them. They approach them, try to manufacture interest. Women are astonishingly passive when it comes to finding mates; as far as they are concerned, their only role in the process is rejecting ones they see as beneath them. If you hit on lots and lots of women, you would succeed sometimes.

One really important factor in whether a woman finds a man attractive is whether other women seem to find him attractive. A man who never seems to have girlfriends will have much more difficulty finding one than a guy who already has one. Women care a lot about what other women like and have a herd mentality.

TheRedPill is just LARPing incels

>Does girls seeing him with pictures of him and his hot half-sister make them think he’s some high value guy?
Probably. Being one of the popular crowd is really important to women, so any association with attractive women or someone who seems to be popular with women (especially attractive ones) will attract them.

Cope

>when you are rich in africa you can get a wife despite having a genetic disorder

user how do you get rid of the shy? I've gone from an obese highschooler to an athletic nigga in college, I've only heard positive comments from my appearance, but i can't help but feel like a fat boy still
>tfw loose titty skin

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Nope. He’s a comedian from a poor family. He got famous for winning 2nd place in the “Ugliest man in Uganda” competition. I’m not making that up, it’s an actual thing there. He actually met his 2nd wife after becoming a meme. 8 children so far.

W-who the fuck won first place

>researchgate.net/journal/0022-3166_Journal_of_Nutrition

Beta-carotine intake/supplementation is one of the few things I have founds that is considered universally more attractive, proven in countless studies

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Women aren’t the problem. It’s chad. Chad creates the rules and women follow them. An Alpha cuck had a fetish for empowered women and women followed suit because it’s what the alpha wanted. As soon as the Alpha decides that women should be guarded sheep they will return to their old place. Chaste and inexperienced.

Of course but Chad doesn’t want that. Women are in the workplace now and have become useful members of our working society. A society that supports a confident, experienced women will further competition in the workplace. They don’t need beta males anymore. Soon they will come after your guns and after that bye bye beta male.

The invisible force you're referring to is the law of attraction, not pheromones (unless you have some sort of serious birth defect). The law of attraction is simply directing your mental energies in reaching a certain goal, whether its wealth, relationships, etc. This can work with both positive and negative thoughts. Put simply, you have persuaded yourself that women are unattainable, no matter what you do. This is probably due to your past failures with women, which has created a positive feedback loop of negative thoughts associated with women. The handsome loser Jow Forums meme is a great example of this, many anons of Jow Forums are discouraged that even after improving their looks they still can't get a gf. They've improved their body but not their mind, they are stuck in loser think.

What you need to do is redirect your mental energies to attaining a woman. Stop thinking women are impossible and start making active changes. Do what ever you can to persuade yourself to not think like your a slave to circumstances. Your cousin might be a loser in many areas in life, but he managed to persuade himself that it doesn't matter, he gets the girl. Figure it out anons, the law of attraction is extremely powerful, as you can achieve many great things if you simply put your mind to it.

talk to people more

that is literally it

Can confirm i am all of the above and i have girls fighting over me

>t. literally cannot read two sentences without his adhd kicking in

I am literally all that and I seriously doubt I've had a girl even checking me out in the last 5 years

This is basically it.

Attraction is based on Aura, Aura is based on the "energy you are giving out" which is based on your thought patterns, belief systems, and, yes, hormones and physical health, fitness, etc.

So basically, easiest way to change big parts of it is to get physically fit, meditate, etc.

Kind of like, an average guy who became super rich would suddenly get loads of girls, but then assuming he internalized that confidence, etc., even if he lost those millions, he'd stil get a shit load of girls, because his 'energy signature', thought patterns, etc., have permanently changed.

There have been studies that woman SAY looks dont matter and its just personality but when it comes to looks theyre no different than men, heres you YOU now fuck off

aw man, he's the worst kind

So many fags say “facial attractiveness” but never go down to what specifically
>hunter eyes
>high cheek bones
>90 degree jawline
>strong hairline
>thick eyebrows

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