How did the Greeks get lean without tracking their calories?

How did the Greeks get lean without tracking their calories?

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By working and/or training much of the day and not eating enough to get fat in the first place (unless they were like the Ptolemies or other royals who ate too much honey, etc.)

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They ate when they were hungry. When they felt full they stopped.
This is the REAL way of eating.

They probably ate more when they wanted to gain muscle and less when they wanted to lose fat. I know, really makes you think.

Wrong.

The Greeks you see depicted were all of at least the citizen class, meaning they were land owners, owned slaves (other Greeks, not Niggers, leftist fuck off) and they were also citizen soliders and also worked as mercenaries all over the Mediterranean and Asia as Greek Hoplites were heavily armoured and very well equipped (for the time) and highly trained. This meant they were able to make a lot of money and were able to afford to eat a good diet. Also, in Plato’s “the republic” from 380BC they even talk about eating meat being good for growing a muscular and strong body, but as old men they didn’t need to be strong and muscular, so they don’t need to eat meat as much as the boys younger men do.

Now, the Greeks had the amount of muscle mass you get from just being active with work and their military training which included pushing and pulling heavy things.

BUT here’s what matters, they didn’t force feed bulk, they ate what they knew made you build muscle, which was being active and eating meat. BUT the point is, they only ever gained the minimal amount of muscle you can gain without eating in a calorie surplus. So they did not look like bodybuilders, they just looked Jow Forums.

So bascially drink water, a lump of meat, train hard, and call it a day, no worrying about how many calories you didn’t have. So long as you’ve trained and digested a lump of meat your body will do the rest for you. No need to autistically track calories, no need to hit X calories to grow. Just train hard and eat a lump of meat and everything will work out by itself.

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gay cringepost of the day

How the fuck do you not get lean? like listen, no one is just born fat. How the fuck do you manage to consistently eat above maintenance? How retarded can you be.

>Noone is born fat

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Nothing that you wrote refutes my point of them eating when they were hungry. You even say they didn't force feed, which means they stopped when they were full.

Sorry, but that was a wasted post and don't try so hard next time.

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I knew someone would say that, but it evens out as you grow or some shit. You understand what I meant, by eating normally and growing normally you don't stay fat.

That statue is what a Male Human is supposed to look like with an active lifestyle, irregardless of diet. Now I’m not saying you can eat whatever you want and tons of it, what I’m saying is forcing down X thousands of calories because some internet guru and online calorie calculator says you need to, in order to gain any muscle, is retarded.

You could eat 1000 calories or less per day and so long as you train hard your body will still gain muscle.

Check out Eric Helms latest research on calorie surplus and muscle gain, they literally find almost no difference in muscle gain for those who eat at maintenance and those who eat in a surplus, the only difference was the surplus group gained a fuck load of fat.

“Bulking” is a meme, you’re not bulking, you’re just a fat guy that lifts.

infinitely redpilled

"Eat to live, don't live to eat" - Socrates

No processed food, no empty carbs, no sugar, healthy diet, lots of physical activity...

Ancient people had twice the testosterone levels than modern sedentary """""men""""

Musonius Rufus the Roman Stoic philosopher:

>“That God who made man provided him food and drink for the sake of preserving his life and not for giving him pleasure, one can see very well from this: when food is performing its real function, it does not produce pleasure for man, that is in the process of digestion and assimilation.”

The purpose of food isnt its taste on the tongue but rather one sees its point when it assimilates into the body.

Seneca also recommended eating very plainly for a week at a time occasionally (bread, oil, raw vegetables and water). This was to kind of "reset" your perception of food.

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Bullshit. Just because they owned land didn't mean they automatically were rich and didn't have to work. Not everyone was a Spartan.

bulking is a fat guy's cope

Based retard skelly

Nigger that baby looks a year old wtf you ever even seen a new born baby?

>ancient people had twice the testosterone
but half the dick size ayyyyy lmao

>these are normal people
lol at anons in this thread saying the statues are just normal farmers and military men.
The famous statues that are mired here are pretty much all athletes or gods.

I am lean and I don't track calories. Tracking calories is cringe a bluepilled. Like just eat when you're hungry nigga, LOL.

>notice you're gaining weight
>stuff your face a bit less
wew hard

>flaccid

>be hungry
>eat
>not hungry anymore
>stop
wew hard

>thinking statues are accurate representations
Ancient Greeks considered large penises unaesthetic.

What is the point of this post exactly? The point of the thread isn't "how they kept themselves satiated". It's "how they kept themselves fit". If you're going fat, eat less. Not rocket science

No mcdonalds and FDA pushing sugar down their throats

that's how they kept fit, by eating food the REAL way. Hungry? Eat. Full? STOP.

If statues are not accurate representations, then as said, the Greeks weren't Jow Forums peoples at all, and they were all just fantasizing. QED.

The fact their representation of musculature or even vasculature was so accurate shows that there were indeed people with such physiques. They might have been rare, but they existed

People of ancient civilisations were all fit because they were active 24/7
Like rich piana 16 hour whole body workout every single day of their entire lives

>intuitive eating
Yeah, that sure works

yeah or do you think they counted their calories? lmao

Greeks were fit people but also very artistic people, a lot of sculptures follow a canon of symmetry and "perfection" in their world. Sculptors didnt just sculpt from life, after a certain point they had an ideal in mind. Giving a sculpture a smaller penis is the same as giving them longer clavicles to fit the golden ratio.
Or people just had smaller dicks back then lol

It does actually.
Give a child healthy food and don't force modern pseudo foods and food that is ultimately poisonous on them and they'll eat precisely what they want and not eat a lot of stuff that we think they'll want if any of it at all.

That's why the breakfast cereal and snack and fastfood and sugar shillers talk children and parents into buying and using their stuff when the children are young and impressionable.

To normalize the disgusting slurry foods and make them think that how bad they feel and sick they feel after eating it is not only normal but good.

No, I think that if they noticed to be packing a bit of a gut, they ate less. Did you forget already? Even butterflies have more memory than that, user.

nah they were just sculpted with a massive pump.
when your arm, chest and back gets swole with blood of course your penile is shrinking

Or you just eat enough to have the right amount of energy all through the day, never getting fat.
Or do you think that's how the did it, yo-yo dieting? Nah, they ate what they needed and not more, actually listening to their bodies.

when you know the shape of a muscle you can imagine and draw/sculpt it in any size you want, saying greeks looked like that because the sculptures is the same as saying modern women are hyper muscular like those super exagerated muscular anime drawing on deviantart

Wrong. they ate as much as they wanted because they could, in many accounts the men are described as broad and huge, and in comparison to each other eg "they are the same height but one is much stronger, while the first is fit as well"

Ajax The Great disagrees with your simplistic statement

Did you even read the sticky, mate?

You don't need to count calories yo not be a fat sack of shit, I never counted calories and yet i always kept my bf bellow 12%

>when you know the shape of a muscle you can imagine and draw/sculpt it in any size you want
Muscles change their shape as they get bigger. If they just sculpted upscaled small muscles the bodies wouldn't look normal at all.

Based coping fatass

Uhhhh how did they get round chests without chest flys? Nice pecs without bench press? Strong legs without squats and deadlifts? Nice shoulders without Dumbbell lateral raises

They didn’t even do a push pull legs routine and they had no access to machines and cables..

All of these goes unanswered

You're a retard

100% this. I enjoy more the feeling of cleanliness from a healthy meal more than the taste of candy or snack foods

Gay pagan orgies

food was much more nutritious back then, no estrogen in the water, nofap

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like tears in the rain

No way they knew how much kcals what food had. But you can say today i eat 8 Cups of oats, tomorrow i eat 7,5 Cups of oats and so on

>Baby fat is real fat

Uninformed never-studied trash, just as you’d expect from an incel. Greeks didn’t live on ‘a lump of meat with water’ you fat ignorant couchbloat. Athletes and upper class alike ate a balanced Mediterranean diet that wouldn’t be startling today: salads, olives, grains, cheese (but not milk), onions / leeks / garlic, fruit, plenty of fish, moderate meat.

And it worked!

Try carrying around 40-60 pounds of gear, jab spears and hold a heavy shield at the same time almost every day of the week

You'll get hella fit

sorry.
meant to (you)

>Uhhhh how did they get round chests without chest flys? Nice pecs without bench press?
Discus throw, according to the old books.

Literally chisseled bodies.