STOP. You have ONE post to explain why you aren't

STOP. You have ONE post to explain why you aren't using steroids to achieve your best possible body RIGHT NOW. Hardmode: no FUD

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I don’t want to end up like him

I want kids with my white wife. Once we're happy with our amount of kids, I'll leave humanity behind

This is FUD: Fear, uncertainty, doubt

I already look better than 90% of gym goers, I don't want to have to worry about not being able to travel somewhere for a week or two because I can't pin, I don't want to worry about side effects, I don't want to possibly accelerate hair loss, I don't want to juice and then never be able to go off because I'll never look as good, the list is pretty endless tbqh senpai

I actually enjoy the grind,i don't care about fast results.Steroids feel cheap you don't need to put any effort.

I look good enough as a natty to have sex with good looking women and impress most normie men and adequately perform any normal physical activity. Oh and my clothes fit. Don’t want to have to buy all new clothes.

literally permanently alters your physiology

If it could kill the greats it could kill me

post body op

I'll be 19 years old in 2 weeks. Did a blood test last week, will have test and estrogen levels in a few days. Basically told my doc I suffer from not being able to put on muscle and have mood swings. Both are kinda true but I overexaggereted it alot.
IF it's low, is it worth it to go on TRT at my age? Either legally or just low doses illegally? I'm big by normie standards, people jokingly ask if I'm taking roids whenever they see me naked. If I can get solid gains with low test will having high test just bring me to Mr. Olympia tier physique? Help a zoomer out y'all

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cause im not a fucking loser faggot who is only about working out

imagine fiending to stick a needle in your ass so you can feel better about yourself lmfao weak cunts

You’re wasting your time. Either get and do them illegally or fuck off. No doc is going to give a perfectly healthy 19 yo test.

Gained more than 10 kilos of lean muscle but still an autist, muscle won't change nothing

Cant keep juicing in my 5 months of basic to ill do my best to get into good shape without it.

You can use HCG to pregnate your wife and stay on the juice

>imagine sticking a needle in yourself so that you can hold onto as much lean muscle as you want, have low bf%, constantly go up in strength, have a huge advantage in fights, have an immense sex drive, and be generally more outgoing

Fucking juicing faggot losers

Dont know where to find them.

I’m planning on saving up for a sperm bank and using HCG just to be safe, after that...

I don't lift for aesthetics, i lift for strength so i can perform better in a sport
Physique gains are just a nice little bonus to that

I'd be using them to get better at a drug tested sport and I still have moral hangups about that

I just lift for a hobby man, results are just a by product

I just found out I'm ugly so now I don't care.

I'm not using them because WHERE DO I GET THEM AND A PCT???

>>imagine sticking a needle in yourself so that you can hold onto as much lean muscle as you want, have low bf%, constantly go up in strength, have a huge advantage in fights, have an immense sex drive, and be generally more outgoing
>Fucking juicing faggot losers

Natty Jow Forums BTFO

because liars go to hell

I want to build a decent natty base first so that if I ever need to stop gearing and lose any gains I’ll have a better chance of returning to a still decent looking body

>dood jump infront of this train it will give you superpowers
>lol no
>This is FUD

No source, haven’t made the attempt to find one yet, literally the only reason.

This is the most retarded thing that people think about steroids. You don’t gain a bunch of muscle and strength and suddenly lose it after you stop. Benefits from one steroid cycle are present over seven years after stopping steroids. You can do one cycle and then look better natty than a true natty ever would.

>steroids feel cheap you don’t need to put in any effort
Do you seriously think the massive juicers you see at your gym don’t put in any effort? Say that to their face you faggot. People who take steroids don’t need to work as hard to look as good as you, but they bust their asses to look way fucking better. Taking steroids increases your work capacity and your capacity for protein synthesis. It gives you the ability to work harder than ever before, it’s not cheap, it’s selling yourself short to abstain from steroids if you’re serious about your physique or your lifts.

>FUD

You are probably just insecure, if you sleep enough, get your sunlight, do exercise, yourtest levels should be okay, just do natty so you don t feel like a fraud, if people are saying you are big then you probably dont need them

19 is a little late but now is prime time to form and sculpt your body with gear. For me, working out with gear now, the body parts that develop the best and are the strongest are the body parts that I was working out when I was 15-20. At that age your cells aren’t measly growing, but they’re dividing and becoming more. Look at Larry Wheels.

Bruhs, help

This is the biggest bullshit bro science I have ever read

For the better

Search archives, search for keywords, add roiders on Discord, go to bodybuilding forums. You'll find trusted sources within a week, that is if you WANT to roid though. Good luck

I'm too autistic to acquire a source.

Steroids don't help improve strength?
Why do pro athletes risk their careers to use em then?

If done correctly with a doctor monitoring your test levels, you can get benefits without long term negative side effects.

No, this is patrick

As controversial as your comment may sound, I believe it. If im so big with suboptimal test I can be a champion with high test, granted everything else is on point, which I am almost sure they are. Low test is literally holding me back. Let's do it boys we all gonna make it

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How can you find a doctor cool enough to do that?

I'm too young

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My 6.1 dick would shrink

Because I'm only just begining again.

>Set a hard mode
>Whine when people don't go along with it
I'm not using steroids because I enjoy being able to think and regulate my emotions

That second comment wasn't me tho

Because zipping through heads or tails from striations of boats tugging along pull up bars means that majority of computer engineers don't work up to capacity of three protein salads for micronutrients

I’m poorfag in uni. I’ll use when I have a steady job and I’m ready to start competing in bb shows

>will high test bring me an Olympia tier physique
I really hope that wasn’t a serious question.
If you’re big by normie standards then 99% chance you don’t have low test. You’re probably just having anxiety issues since you’re young. Happened to me a couple years ago when I was near your age.

Based stroke poster

Because I train mma mostly, and I have a lot more growing to do natty.

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i dont want a small penis and im already an angry person by nature, roid rage would make me unbearable to be around

Well lucky you because roids don't do that to you. What are you waiting for?

>steroids dont make you angry
roid rage is a proven symptom of steroids use
steroids boost your testosterone levels, and the higher your testosterone is, the angrier you get.

I honestly don't know. I asked /fraud/ if I should and they told me not to.

>already balding
>already gyno
>test levels below average
>compounds havent progressed in months

Testosterone does't change you from a normal person to a total pissed-off asshole. I like to describe it as you're the same fuse on a bomb, it is just cut a little shorter.

If you're a normal person, you don't really have anything to worry about in terms of mood swings. If you got mental health issues and anger issues, I'd advise you stay away from roids, at least the particularly potent ones like tren.

Roids haven't made me angrier. If anything, they just lower my tolerance for bullshit people throw at me.

False. "Roid rage" is caused by high estrogen, which CAN be caused by taking roids but that's only if you're dumb and don't know what you're doing. The momscience and incelcope festers in you.
>Hurr the gym is a place for douches I'd rather go to the library, are you coming along, m'lady?

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I'm Catholic and in my personal view using steroids is a vain thing to do.
I see it as a disgrace to God to not appreciate your natural limitations.

how's prednisone

This
t. Currently on test

That’s a corticosteroid, not an anabolic steroid like test, teen, mast, etc

Interesting. What is your view on middle aged men with low testosterone (to the point where it causes health problems) being on TRT or simply injecting testosterone? Is taking any sort of medicine as a whole bad?

I have an irrational fear of an economic/social collapse where I wouldn't have access to them and end up with the test production of a 8 year old girl, otherwise I'd just do a few years natty then juice

Totally this.
Roids are for fucking losers who want quick gains, and have no patience and discipline. They think they have them because they're constant in using needles, but at that point even a junkie can be considered disciplined and patient. Literally like fats who remain fat because after two months at the gym "they don't see the results". Plus, being fit also means being healthy.

fucking this
>being fit also means being healthy
/thread

Yeah, bomb you body with roids and hormones during the growth years.
Literally nothing can go wrong.
For fuck's sake, this threads are borderline drug dealing.

Middle aged men should be married and or devoted to God in preist hood or in a monastic setting. But I do believe they should be living a healthy, non-sedimentary life in manual labour or athletic activities.
This is my personal world view again, and I do not care about secularist idealogy.

We ought to be humble in relation to God, which demands that I stick to my natural gifts.

Would totally roid if I had a source. Done having kids. Got a decent job. Now lifting and enjoying the long grind to the grave.

And what if someone doesn't produce enough testosterone to the point where it leads to health issues, is that healthy? Are you against low T people being on TRT?

Don't need to, bruv.

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I'm still waiting for it to come in the mail.

Dont know where to cop, dont know how to use if I did.

Because I haven't reached natty limits and I want to see how far I can go without resorting to steroids.
I might use them in the future, I might not. We'll see.

Totally has 0 discipline. Not everyone wants to be an unimpressive subhuman for a worthless “natty” badge that only exists to boost the egos of queers to afraid to take the jump

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You didn't answer the question: do you, as a religious man, believe that testosterone injection for people who have suboptimal testosterone levels is against God's will?
A man doesn't know how to drive, is it an excuse for him to never get his driver's license and learn how to? So he can enjoy driving like everyone else?

Pic is me not sure if I'm attractive, would I be attractive in zyzz mode?

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Don't strawman me pal, you know far too well what I meant.
This thread is about people who use roids, test, or others in order to achieve gains to look better. This is not about testosterone use for medical purpose by people with test deficiencies.

sauce on this

> believe that testosterone injection for people who have suboptimal testosterone levels is against God's will?
Yes absolutely, I thought my stance was obvious?

It's not about a "natty badge", retard. It's about health. It's a short route to achieve what you want that will cost your health.

my dick is 8.3
im not taking any chances

Someone just answer me this - ARE ONLINE STORES RELIABLE?

Buy some and buy a test kit.

Reliable in what way?
Is the gear fake? Some of them
Are they scammers? Some of them
Luckily there are sites where people can review sources to see which ones are reliable

This board still has faggots who don’t acknowledge that safe and responsible roiding exists. I knew this site was full of tards but Jesus Christ.

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#1 I'm afraid of needles
#2 I'm not going to ruin my liver with orals

>>be me
.5x4.5
literally cannot afford it, should probs just an hero

Could you e-mail me some?
[email protected]

I really want to get swole and I'll do whatever it takes