/fast/ - #379 - LIVING IN DARKNESS EDITION

just refeed and start again once you get your KCl desu no point trying to last until you get it. unless maybe you dryfast but it will be really tough

good luck fren

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Are multivitamins dangerous and/or counter productive to snake juice fasts?

How can I accelerate fat loss while fasting.

What do I need to take for an extended fast.

I'm 180cm and 130 kg. It is my first fast and i have been going for 5 days. I'm feeling absolutely horrible.

Should i keep going?

Id say they are useless unless you are going on 21+ day fasts, then I'd consider it

are you drinking snake juice?

I want to be 8% body fat from 18% body fat. What the most realistic way to achieve that?

i have acne scars on my ass can i heal it with fasting?

OMAW
with dry fasting, yes

What should my meal consist of?

how long should i dry fast

How's your blood sugar? Are you prediabetic? What color is your piss? You should be crusing by now. Granted, the first fast is the toughest. Go at least 1 more day, it wont kill you, and there's a good chance you wake up feeling like a million bucks tomorrow. Refeed carefully (I do a whole chicken from like Winco (36oz) take off the skin and thats like 1200 calories) and go another 5 days.

Yes

72 is ideal

One whole chicken, one jar of peanut butter, and two gallonwof milk

I do a whole chicken, two heads of iceberg lettuce, two bags of broccoli/cauliflower frozen vegetables. The vegetables are important so you dont get constipated.

So just keep eating what I've been eating then, just once a week.

How many weeks of OMAW would it take to get to 8% body fat?

Posting again from last thread
Is hair loss something I'll have to worry about on 48 hours fasts/OMAD? What should I eat to prevent it?

stay active

when does the hunger stop?

Hello /fast/, this is me.

I have been doing OMAD and dry fasting on weekends, is it really necessary to keep doing fasting?
I am a 5'11 ft manlet with 162 lb, don't really know my fat percentage but I guess it's around 15%-20%

I used to be a 190 lb lardass pig some 3 months ago but I think I'm not that fat anymore.......

Also I tried lifting but it's very hard for me. Is there any benefits by keep doing intermittent fasting or just lift and bulk?

I don't really like to lift but there's no other option for me

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Just before you pass.

>Also I tried lifting but it’s very hard for me
find a different hobby

Guess I posted this in the tail end of the other thread. Reposting here.

So I’m trying to do a fast while quitting smoking. Currently 18 hours. I was wondering when the effects of autophagy started and how long I should go to get the supposed healing effects from it for my shitty lungs. Anyone have any good anecdotes with using fasting for healing other than just weight loss?

>24 hours in
>Drinking a beer because I hate myself
Start the clock over, bois

yes
My bloodsugar is at 5 which should be fine. I was diagnosed with diabetes last year which sucked hard but it shouldn't be a problem since i'm not taking metformin during the fast.
The color of my piss is really clear, almost like water. Honestly it might just be my body craving carbs and sugar.

Just smoke weed, lad, Jesus.

first time doing snakejuice 12 hour fast is it fine to do cardio etc while fasting? atm im jumproping and doing body weight

Snakejuice is not needed for 12 hours. It's only really for 48+ hour fasts. Light cardio is absolutely fine.

>5’10, 180lb male

I’ve tried, and can’t get past 24 hours fasting from carbs. I just get too hungry. How many days should I do OMAD on keto before attempting a fast?

>16/8 is my life
>fly for work this week with people
>here take some snacks from this bowl for your flight
>fuck
>user let's have lunch
>fuck I guess a chicken and white rice bowl
>finish Monday off with chicken at night to try to stay normal
>next day, user let's go eat lunch (at least it's like 3pm)
>skip night meal
>today struggling to stay alive
>can't go to a store, go to vending machine in break area
>monster brand energy drink
>more alive but now hate self
How do I do it guys. I can't just sit in the car while they go eat fast food.
I tried saying nah but they insist

I'm employed, I can't.

>5'10'', 195lb, male

I'm surprised. I tried a 2 day fast a couple of weeks ago, liked it just fine, and and thought I'd incorporate 3x48hr fasts per week on my rest days. I started my first fast on Mon night and was planning on breaking it this morning (it's Wed night atm), but I didn't have any appetite and I felt fine all of today.

I've been taking sodium and potassium (I let myself get K deficient that first time a couple of weeks ago), and I honestly think I can keep going quite a while. I may even see if I can stretch it until Sun morning and break it then with pork and eggs, since I have two consecutive training days on Sun/Mon and that probably would be too much for mys system.

If that works then I may just make a 5 day fast spanning Tue-Sun a thing for the next couple of months.

My last meal was one of these with a pound of fake crab(not sure if that's too many carbs for keto, they add sugar for some reason) and I simply have not been hungry since. That was maybe 30 hours ago?
The toasted coconut is literally my favorite thing in the world, and I usually don't like shredded coconut.

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5-6 depending on how much muscle u got

LIKE ANYTHING THAT STRESSES THE FUCK OUT OF YOU, YOU CAN LOSE SOME HAIR. THE ONLY WAY I CAN SEE THAT HAPPENING IS GOING THROUGH DETOX.
DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT PREVENTION, THOUGH. EAT PROTEIN AND DON'T FOLLOW KETO MACROS.

LIFT AND BULK ON OMAD. IF YOU DON'T LIKE TO LIFT, FIND SOME PHYSICAL ACTIVITY THAT YOU MIGHT ENJOY, LIKE A SPORT OR SOME SHIT. STOP BEING A LAZY FUCKHEAD.

DEPENDS ON HOW LONG YOU'VE BEEN SMOKING AND HOW MUCH YOU'VE BEEN SMOKING/DAY. I WAS SMOKING ABOUT 10 CIGARETTES A DAY AND FELT BETTER MAYBE 4 DAYS IN TO MY FAST. DETOX WAS A BITCH, THOUGH, AND YOU'LL BE COUGHING LIKE A MOTHERFUCKER.
I ALSO HEALED MY LOWER BACK PAIN (FOUND OUT THIS WAS KIDNEY RELATED) AND KNEE PAIN (BOTH DUE TO LEAFY GREENS). ACV AND LEMON JUICE HELPED KICK OUT SOME STONES WITHOUT ANY PAIN. SHIT WAS FREAKING ME OUT WHEN I WAS PISSING BROWN SEDIMENT IN THE TOILET.

STOP BEING A BITCH.

THAT'S GREAT, FUCKING DO IT. DON'T EAT JUST BECAUSE YOU THINK YOU NEED TO.

Been hard dry fasting for 60 hours now. I actually think I can skate by without brushing my teeth by avoiding talking close to people and can cover any BO with deodorant and cologne, but my hair is a matted mess at this point. I cant get away with a beanie tomorrow all day.

How much does it set you back when you switch to a soft dry fast by allowing a short shower and maybe a quick teeth brushing? What if I only washed my hair so I can make it look presentable?

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Don't listen to those pussies, you can easily go a month with out anything but pure water, exercise and all, it will just be a bit harder. Don't not fast because you don't have potassium.

is there an anti-fasting discord running gay ops in addition to the discord trannies? you people are fucking insufferable

YOUR BODY CAN ABSORB NUTRIENTS, MINERALS, AND WATER THROUGH YOUR SKIN BUT A 5 MINUTE SHOWER WILL HAVE NEGLIGIBLE IMPACT. DON'T BE SO HELLBENT ON IT, YOU CAN ALWAYS DO AN EXTRA 6 HOURS OR SOMETHING IF YOU THINK IT FUCKED SOME PROGRESS.

I'D SAY LIKE 99% OF PEOPLE ARE AGAINST FASTING, SO IT'S PAR FOR THE COURSE.

HERE'S A VIDEO SO PEOPLE DON'T LISTEN TO :
youtube.com/watch?v=fURwtw_FYK0

how much lemon juice do i drink if i do the snake diet?

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i just dont fucking understand how people can be so belligerently retarded in response to a proven diet method with VERY simple, easily explained and understood biological processes behind it. and even if they dont understand it i cant figure out why theyre so anally inflamed about other people doing it. it feels orchestrated.

Can I go 80 hours without snake juice?

it would suck

thanks. in which way would it suck?

Anyone else find fasting to be easier than a normal diet? And I don't mean like in the sense that you don't have to count calories or whatever, but when I'm eating "clean" there's always that temptation, that salivating and hunger. With fasting I just put it out of my mind as much as possible and go as long as possible and when I do refeed I eat like a king.

Cole says that insulin helps us heal but doesn't it also permanently damage blood vessels? I think that's the main reason people opt for keto or carnivore, because heart disease is the biggest killer.

Go for a walk.

youd feel like fucking dogshit if you only drink fresh water
80 hour dry fast would also be brutal but youd earn your official Not A Pussy certificate

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>YOUR BODY CAN ABSORB NUTRIENTS, MINERALS, AND WATER THROUGH YOUR SKIN BUT A 5 MINUTE SHOWER WILL HAVE NEGLIGIBLE IMPACT. DON'T BE SO HELLBENT ON IT, YOU CAN ALWAYS DO AN EXTRA 6 HOURS OR SOMETHING IF YOU THINK IT FUCKED SOME PROGRESS.

So what do you think the real difference is between a hard dry fast and a soft dry fast in terms of results? Either way, I'm planning to keep this as hard as possible save for maybe 1 or 2 short showers, but does it just slow down autophagy and weight loss? Is the difference significant.

SIMPLE: THEY'RE BRAINWASHED PUSSIES.

MUCH EASIER. NO MORE MEAL PLANNING, NO MORE EXTRA TIME TAKEN OUT OF THE DAY TO SET ASIDE AND EAT, NO MORE EXTREME CALORIE COUNTING, RELAPSING TAKES A COUPLE OF DAYS OF FASTING, AND MY GENERAL HEALTH IS MUCH, MUCH BETTER.

I HAVEN'T DONE ANY PERSONAL EXPERIMENTATION AND I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY COMPARISONS BUT THE DIFFERENCE IS LIKE DRINKING LESS THAN A CUP OF WATER.
IT SHOULDN'T SLOW AUTOPHAGY AND IT MIGHT SLOW DOWN WEIGHT LOSS BY TENTHS OF A POUND. HOWEVER, I'M GOING TO GUESS THAT THE FURTHER YOU'RE IN TO YOUR DRY FAST, THE LARGER THE EFFECT WATER CONTACT COULD HAVE. STILL, I DOUBT THE DEGREE WOULD BE ANYTHING TO LOSE SLEEP ABOUT.

There is more room to mess up regular diets. The only thing in terms of weight loss you can mess up in a fast is weight loss. Add to this that you have more hunger during a normal diet as you aren't hungry after 4 days of fasting for the rest of teh fast.
>Hundreds of meals you need to properly calculate while dealing with hunger and food temptation
>Eating nothing but the refeed with no hunger

>is weight loss
is teh refeed

I noticed that on OMAD its actually easy to overeat but on OMEOD, my appetite decreases and can't even go over a single day's TDEE

Anyone else notice this? I have been getting way more gains with ADF than OMAD

What's KCI

is it normal for snake juice to upset my stomach?

Question: Are all of you fat as fuck ?
You do realise NO ONE has gotten a good body from fasting right ?
If you are using it to lose a tonne of weight THEN start eating normally, fair enough but this isnt a way of life. Get some self control for fuck sake, and yes it's easier to starve yourself then binge over and over than just build good habits and be in a calorie deficit while eating well. jesus fucking christ get a grip for fuck sake.

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Will flavored condoms break a fast? My friend is coming over in a bit so I need an answer soon

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It's just nusalt or another salt alternative.

Literally what the fuck did you order?!

why are you so mad?

>NO ONE has gotten a good body from fasting
pure, unadulterated, weapons-grade cope

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Not mad, just pointing out that this is a silly cultish general that is retarded
Yeah, my point still stands

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>Not mad, just pointing out that this is a silly cultish general that is retarded
Yeah, my point still stands

Eating 5 meals a day is a fucking cult

Talk about something people can't stop believing

I'm not fat at all though mate kek, show me someone who fasts who looks like me

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Who said anything about eating 5 miles a day ?

Conventional dietary advice is cultish, fasting isn't remotely as bad

How are you that lean, yet have absolute no ab definition what so ever?

mirin' thos tits brah

youtube.com/watch?v=JxjMdqevE88

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obviously you dont fast for days on end to get huge you utter fucking mong. you eat 4000 calories in one sitting every day and eat nothing else for the rest of the day, then throw in one 48 hour fast to quickly burn any fat.
how the fuck are people so retarded?

Fell off the wagon 5 months ago and gained weight again. 165 to 187 I'm 1 day back into the fast. What do you guys think of a 2 tsp shot of tumeric and water in the morning with a cup of green tea? Would that break the fast or am I in the clear?

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>Refusing to smoke weed because I'm employed
>Being a bitch
Pick one, obnoxious caps faggot

If you drink it too fast you will have immediate liquid shits.

>drink snek juice with nothing but PHS and nosalt
>immediate liquid shit no matter how little i drink or how diluted it is
>try again on another fast except add the epsom salt
>can chug this shit for hours and never get the shits, feel way better
neat

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This might just be a sorry excuse but i find it troublesome bringing the snek juice with me to uni during the day. I got a 4L water bottle for home, but bringing that with me would be rather silly. Should i just drink normal water during the day?

What do you guys like to do?

do what you want. i drink tea coffee and herbs while fasting and feel fine. well needed to reduce coffee because it irritates my empty stomach a little. i suppose if you are religiously into the whole autophagy aspect you might have to give up on all of those.

IT ALL DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH YOU CAN EAT IN ONE SITTING. SOME PEOPLE CAN'T EAT >4 POUNDS OF FOOD BUT YOU CAN DEFINITELY TRAIN FOR IT.
ONE DRAWBACK ABOUT ADF IS IF YOU'RE TRYING TO BULK, BUT HONESTLY I CAN STILL BULK ON ADF BECAUSE I CAN EAT LIKE A FUCKING FAT PIG.

POTASSIUM CHLORIDE.

DO THEY CONTAIN CALORIES? JUST DON'T SWALLOW ANYTHING. YOU'LL BE TRIGGERING A SMALL INSULIN SPIKE BUT IT SHOULD BE NEGLIGIBLE.

I ACCIDENTALLY REPLIED TO YOUR OTHER POST , WHICH WAS MEANT FOR .
HOWEVER, I'M CALLING YOU A BITCH BECAUSE OF YOU CAN'T SO NO. WHAT ARE YOU, A FUCKING BABY? MAN THE FUCK UP AND SAY "NO" FOR ONCE IN YOUR FUCKING LIFE.

I HAVE 2 40OZ BOTTLES THAT I BRING. ONE IS LEFT IN THE CAR IF I NEED IT.
AND YOU CAN DRINK NORMAL WATER DURING THE DAY, JUST DON'T POUND IT BACK BECAUSE YOU'LL BE PISSING OUT MINERALS AND ELECTROLYTES.

At the moment I just want to get back to where I was (160 to 155). At the moment I'm 187 pushing 190 and am 1 day back into the fast. My main question more specifically is if any of you lads have drank green tea/tumeric and used a ketone strip and still test positive for ketosis?

YOU'LL KICK YOURSELF OUT OF KETOSIS FOR LIKE 30 MINUTES.

Thanks for the raking the time to reply to us Cole-jisan!!! Appreciate the info sempai!!

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GENERAL QUESTION

what motivates you guys to keep going other than becoming skinny what is your purpose behind the eternal struggle

because idk if im going to make it anymore lads

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Not to take the depressing route but I simply don't have a lot of control over my circumstances right now. I'm at school, away from home, having a lot of trouble finding work fulltime outside of school plus I need to be preparing for my future with internships and what not. I only have a couple of summer classes and one more semester after this. I'm away from my gf of more than 5 years and my family and don't want to go back home but miss them, plus we have very shaky relationships. My health is always up and down. Right not money is short so not paying for food is a big plus.

I don't know. Fasting is simply something I can control. Every 12 hours I can watch the scale go down and my waistline decrease and it's motivating. Having control over my willpower and appetite is one thing I have over the majority of the population.

It's nice to have dates to look forward to as well. My gf is coming out here in about a week. I'm fasting until she gets here which gives me an end in sight. something to look forward to. Whatever unhealthy weight i gain back from celebrating with her I know i can just take off again with fasting. Idk. it makes life simpler.

but thats exactly it you have something to do it for like a GF that loves you but fuck man i have nothing going for me and nothing to strive for nothing that would make me happy beyond the internet

>hat motivates you guys to keep going other than becoming skinny what is your purpose behind the eternal struggle
>because idk if im going to make it anymore lads

to have visible abs first time in my life

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i wish i could have autistic goals like that but for me a Jow Forums guy on a computer is the same as a fat guy on a computer

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Try an 18:6 eating bacon and eggs, then 20:4, then OMAD.

How about your health? Seriously man don't underestimate what an impact that will make down the line. People that have to retire at 65 have to do so because they've fucked up their bodies their whole life. If you're living to retire you're just living to die, which has no point.

Your problem is finding purpose. You probably have a lot of addictions, food being one of them, to distract you from the obligations in your life that you dislike. Instead of fixing those problems, you go back to your addictions, and its this neverending paradox.

It's very difficult and emotionally challenging, but the goal should be breaking down those addictions, going back to why you have them and what it is you're stomping out with them. Walk them back to the beginning.

Work towards changing your circumstances. Focus on living and not just surviving. It sounds like the internet may be inhibiting you more than helping you. Might be best to start there taming that issue once you get your health under control.

Giving in because you don't have anything to live for is going to solve just as few of your issues, except you'll be sick and dying faster.

By the way, you need to change your perspective there. You say you don't have anything to live for.

You don't have anything to live for, yet.

get a seltzer/soda water and don't eat.

this has probably been the best advice ive been given in a long time and yeah i obviously have a food addiction but then what other than become free of addictions which is nice ill have to maintain myself through somesort of purpose but without it i have no reason to not binge on food to fill the void

im not asking for reasons but just options because i think im not mentally well either

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