Does anyone here know how to fight? I want to learn to fight but don't know where to start...

Does anyone here know how to fight? I want to learn to fight but don't know where to start. Pls post sources for beginners to learn to fight.
>Inb4 just go to an mma gym? What kind? How do I know the instructor isn't full of shit?

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What do you mean by fight? Win a bar fight or confrontation? Or compete as a sport?

Use boxing to learn how to throw a punch properly. BJJ to learn ground game. If there's a decent Muay Thai place near you, go there as opposed to boxing.

A few months will legit make you more skilled than 90% of the people you see day to day.

i know gunfu

Lets have a general /martial arts/ thread as well.

Anybody else in BJJ confused when people talk about their game? I have a purple belt after 5 years and I don't have a game at all. I just look for what's open and go for it. If I can't get passed the guard I'll go for a leg lock, if I can't get on top, I protect my elbows. I see these blue belts going into competition where "they're probably going to work their top game." What the fuck are they talking about? All I know is showing up to class and going for moves.

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They both have their merits. It sounds like they are training for specific situations where you are mostly grappling on instinct. Both works. The only thing I can compare it to is wrestling like some just tackle bomb someone and try to pin and some people have trained themselves to see a certain situation like leg near elbow means go for cradle.

Game is just the culmination of the techniques you use and how they lead to the positions that you end up in the most over time. It's basically like a flowchart - you end up in this position and use this set of moves, which puts you into another position where you use another set of moves.
Since there are so many options to choose from in BJJ, usually every person will have a limited set of moves that they stick to and master, over trying to use everything.
For example, if you watch Paulo Miyao, he's almost always working towards getting a berimbolo, and using inverted guard (in the gi).
But if you watch someone else like Marcelo Garcia, he uses a lot of X-guard, hunts for guillotines and takes a more traditional approach to getting the back.

What is a good routine if I want to start kickboxing and/or BJJ but still want to be strong?

>how do I know the instructor isnt full of shit
Spar with him. If he kicks your ass, he probably knows a thing or two.
Martial arts today are separate in two categories: those that spar (actually work) and those that dont (bullshit).
After that we have striking or grappling. Look up something and see what interests you and start there. Many people Pick grappling though because its better for your long term brain health than getting smashed in the skull each time you compete.
Good entry points into grappling: BJJ, judo, wrestling, sambo.
Good entry points for striking: Boxing, kick boxing / muay thai

I've been in a few street fights
None were very good but I got better at managing the adrenaline and never got my ass kicked, got punched behind my ear once that one hurt for like a week
I've had concussions unrelated to the fighting and seen too many idiots on worldstar hit the back of their heads to go looking for it anymore

I think both are legit approaches. The A>B>C “game” method where C is a submission or winning position ends up becoming very refined over time and can become effective to a percentage approaching 100%. The main problem is that it’s not dynamic at all. In some situations it would be like a new guy watching a technique on youtube and expecting to hit it in the wrong situation. Your style, which may not be as tight all the time, has the benefit of being more applicable in more situations, and IMO more fun.
t. blue belt lel

Do people find themselves going for specific situations on their own? Like, are they watching the same classes and drawing different conclusions? I feel like it would take a coach to tell you how to make specific situations work for you.

Yeah I did some general grappling cross training and it was weird. I do judo and I went with a BJJ guy to work on groundwork, got a choke on him, he got an armbar on me etc. but he said I had great “top game”. I have no idea what that is

I’m running a PHUL program, as well as doing judo, seems to be working

Thanks! The idea of game in that since makes me feel uncomfortable because it seems like there's a lack of depth to your game. It's like saying "I could never use DLR guard because I've already learned worm guard and I'm already good at worm guard." It sounds like being inflexible.

Did you write it up yourself or did you find it somewhere?

I think something just clicked for me. I like this. A game could be your favorite path to getting mount or back. That's where C is going to be 9 times out of 10. You can catch some cheeky americana from side control, get into truck (which can lead to the back), or lay back for a leg lock, but if you're going to practice something 10,000 times, it probably aught to be an obviously superior position like mount and back.

I always just say "nice" whenever I roll with somebody. Do you think that he just said that like a piece of NPC dialog like me?

I took a basic one I found online and modified it a bit
Monday:
>bench 5x5 plus warmup/Cooldown
>barbell rows 4x8
>military press 5x5 +warmup/cooldown
>pull-ups 5xf
> incline bench 4x8
>lat pulldowns 4x8
> skull crushers 5x8
>preacher curls 5x8
Tuesday:
>front squats 4x10
>deadlifts 4x8
>hanging leg raises 4x12
>farmers carries 4xf
>another ab exercise, depends what’s open
>calf raises 4x12
Then judo for 2 hours in the evening
Wednesday:
Rest
Thursday:
>dumbell bench 4x10
> chin-up 4xf
>dumbell press 4x10
> cable rows 5x12
> close grip bench 4x10
> lay pulldowns 4x10
>tricep extensions 5xf
>dumbell curls 5x10
Judo 2hours
Friday:
>Squats 5x5 heavy +w/c
>deads 5x5 heavy +w/c
>hanging leg raises 4x12
> farmers carries
>leg press 4x10
>ab exercise
> calf raises 4x10
Judo for 2 hours
Saturday:maybe judo maybe not
Sunday: rest

you win by getting a CWC permit

Maybe, I did choke him a bit so I thought I did ok, and he was talking about guards a lot. I’m fine if it’s an empty compliment, I just don’t know what “top game” or “bottom game” is.

I actually did one month at GSP's dojo and it was only 80 canadian dollars per month
You know its good because they actually get people in rings

Start with boxing. Thay/BJJ seem more fun and useful (which they are) but boxing gives you a base on how to properly dialogue with punches which is a solid base to then build on.

How do you do progression? And how heavy can you squat right after judo?

I squat before judo, fuck squatting after. So far i can do lmao3pl8 for 3.
For progression, I dunno, I just add heavier weights, although I plateau fairly often. You need to eat a LOT if you do martial arts + weight training
Stats are 175lbs 6’1

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Looking good m8.
I came from strength training, so anytime I can't lift heavy anymore, I feel like shit and my selfesteem plummets, that's why I'm asking.
I just started kickboxing not too long ago, and it's truly difficult to combine it with lifting, school, and basketball coaching. I just have to find my groove I guess.
Any tips for combining everything/not feeling like shit if it doesn't work out for some time?

Eat lots,sleep lots. Regarding lifts, maybe keep lifting a primary focus and kickboxing a secondary if big lifts are more important to you. Go to kickboxing two times a week instead of three and gradually get the time management aspect figured out. Also a unifag so I have plenty of free time to get organized

Kickboxing is normally twice a week, but I want to lift 3x, and I have to coach basketball 2-3x as well. Uni is internships and courses, so it's quite chaotic atm. However, I'll be done in August, and I might have some stability then. Thanks for the advice though, I appreciate it.

mma is a waste of time if you're a beginner
start small. pick a striking style, get good, do grappling, get good, combine both, then you can try mma

Did Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, most friendly community ever. You know the instructor is not full of shit when he has no ego and is on top of students and their ego. Great cardio. Love it very much. Stopped because I was injured/ moved and haven’t found a new school

>has no ego and is on top of students and their ego
This sounds creepy desu

Kickboxing, some basic throws and you're set for 80% of people probably. Also always carry some type of self defense weapon. Unless you're talking about fighting as a sport. Idk about that.

I want to train in combat sambo for MMA but its not offered where I live. Whats a good alternative, or something to build a foundation in until I find a gym? I am in my schools boxing club rn

throw rear/side delt work and curls into your lower days and you will see increased gains

Top game is being on top. Bottom or guard is being on bottom. Some people prefer to pass and be top, but others like to stay low and play guard.

Boxing+judo = sambo, or at least super close

Eh, I’m thinking more that I’ll add a light arms/shoulder day on Saturday really.

same, dude

I never went through a "technique collecting" phase, either

I just force halfguard on people and do the same basic tripod pass, no one ever tries to play top where I used to train so my guard proly sux tho

I just started bjj and I am just going on instinct. I usually end up on top, either because my rolling partner prefers to train bottom, or I am overpowering him due to 3 years of powerlifting. Regardless, I just want to get used to whatever I am doing and progress wherever I am at. If that means going for arm bar, sure. If not, I'll take guillotine, or just stay on top and try to choke him out somehow. I am always getting submitted, however.

Only retards want to get in a street fight. Fighting should be done for sport because knife or gun trumps street fighting skills.

Tueller drill

I started taking martial arts cuz I was fighting too much. I've got several years of a few types of karate, some basic kung fu, judo, jujitsu/MMA and boxing under my belt and I will tell you this:

the only way to learn to fight is to get in fights. some martial arts are better than others in this respect (depends on how much you spar, basically) to prepare you and teach you techniques, but NONE of it, in the ring, in the gym, in the dojo, NONE of it is real fighting. It don't mean shit when somebody sucker punches you in the club or tries to stick you with a knife.

One of my teachers was actually a security professional- bounty hunter, bouncer, odd jobs, bodyguard. Once I asked him if he did martial arts to improve his job skills and he laughed out out loud and said, "No, I do this to relax. This is my getaway from violence."

Anyway, find a MMA gym with a decent rep and a relaxed attitude, that's your fastest way to get some basic skills in you, but it still ain't real fighting.

top is not the power position by default. It makes you burn up gas and them save it and it's easier to defend anything coming in on the bottom. practice getting guard every time

Hell yeah brother, that is exactly how I like to do things; instead of trying to steer someone into a submission I like to practice the extremely advantageous positions. Even if you don’t fall into a submission by accident, which happens fairly often, you’ll wear them out.

Here's how you find a gym that isn't bullshit

Find one near you online
>look for a section about the instructors
>head instructor should have a pro record or atleast trained with a pro fighter
>look at photos of the gym members, are they in good shape? if yes that's a good sign
>most gyms will be mostly male, women don't like getting punched in the face or submitted generally
>Is there live contact sparring? If you're not going to spar then you might as well do karate or tai chi because sparing is how you actually learn what works in a fight
>if they offer a gym tryout then take it and see how it is, you want a friendly and relaxed gym culture not one
>if you don't like the gym then don't go back

Also avoid gyms that give children black belts, a child doesn't even have the mental ability to master a sport to that point

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The guy in your picture is an extreme juicehead.

this is good advice

i've seen a truly based gym in madison, wisconsin that gave kids black belts and then made them restart at white belt when they were 17

at least you weed out the narcissists that way

>top is not the power position by default
Only in BJJ, if any strikings involved, top becomes dominant

I worked with a dojo that taught in-school classes, but wouldn't accept anyone into the main dojo under the age of ten and didn't give a black belt to anyone under 16, and that was a provisional "assistant shodan" degree. Also every rank test had a NHB proving match judged by the head instructors. Not all karate is trash in Burgerland

BJJ is NOT a martial art, it is a modern-day perversion of the basest kind, masquerading and spreading in plain sight.
If you watch youtube street fights, you'll notice that they're only ever won by slams and by punching the dude(s) (i.e. boxing and wrestling.)
You will NEVER see a video of blowjobjitsu ever working anywhere except their homosexual-frolicking mats.

Just to give you an idea, BJJ is not as gay as semen on a handlebar moustache, but MORE gay than that. The sixth Village People gaylord should've worn a blue BJJ gi with extra special monkey patches to up the ante of that YMCA music video.
Just so you understand what we're talking about here, BJJ specialists frequently exchange texts days and days ahead of their next "training" session, telling each other the precise mustiness and sweatiness of taint and feet that they expect for next time. They instruct each other on PRECISELY which flavor of ass-sweat to concoct as a courtesy to each other's noses.
In all of God's creation and of all the world's abominations, nothing else has even remotely approached the homosexual fever pitch of BJJ and its "practitioners".

I once attended a bjj "training" and ran out halfway through in horror and disgust, reciting Hail Marys all the way home and taking a subsequent scalding bath to purify myself from "Brazilian Jiu Jitsu" and its homosexual filth.
I avoid BJJ cultists diligently ever since, but not for the reasons they like to think and push on unsuspecting young men on forums such as this very one.
No, the reason I avoid them are the veritable bouquets, the luscious pot pourris of every conceivable viral infection, that these degenerates enjoy swapping and transmittung through sweaty bodily contact.
Understnad that whenever a BJJ "practitioner" speaks in your direction, shakes your hand or attempts to share the same oxygen in an enclosed space, he is consciously attempting to taint you with the virluent contamination acquired through rubbing himself for many years into the diseased asscracks, sweaty taints and stinking viral armpits of hundreds of similar degenerates.
Sodom and Gomorrah's fates were sealed PRECISELY by the inordinate amounts of virus-spreading homosexual dojos that sprung up there shortly before the cleansing.

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Is this pasta? Lmao

Yes and no, I did post it originally about a week back.
I feel it is my duty to warn young men about the himosexual cultist

What martial art or combination of martial arts would you say is the best for winning a street fight?

Some boxing (but don't go overboard with it or you WILL be concussed), and freestyle wrestling or judo.

But there are much better martial arts, such as: having buds with you, having situational awareness and life experience, cocaine, intimidation.

There were many discussions on the topic back when /asp/ wasn't about wrestling.

There are many red flags for mc dojos:
>no sparring
>no competitive scene
>take a look around the kid's lessons hours, or on the website. If you see little kids with a black belt, this is a mc dojo
>some bullshit about the style being "too lethal for competition"
>some bullshit about "real life street style self defense"
>unaffiliated dojos/gyms
>teacher makes people call him sensei/shihan/sifu

Sounds gay bro

parkour

Coward

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