Alcohol

I went dry for about 4 months after getting drunk about 2-3 times a week for 2 years. took about 2 weeks to get over the boredom and urge to drink on my days off work. after that, i immediately noticed a positive change to my mood and overall mental state. I just felt happier. I got drinkers guilt pretty bad so it was a major driving factor in cutting back. also my consistency in the gym went up. I was more inclined to eat cleaner and stick to a clean diet. I feel I had better mental clarity and was thinking more sharply. I slept WAY better (which led me to seek out how to improve my sleep too). i was more eager to go to work. Now I drink on holidays and special occasions only and unless it’s a drunk event I keep it light, and I’ve noticed that when I do drink now my hangovers are significantly less agonizing and the drinkers guilt is next to non-existent.

tl;dr fuck alcohol

This is driving me crazy. Why can't we just drink like the normal people?
Is there a way to rewire my brain so I can enjoy a beer or two whithout reverting to full blown alcoholism?

did a detox month and slept better for sure and it helped me cut down and spend less

Honestly, I think we just have to not drink

this is very true and inspirational, also nice digits.
If I feel good and it's only been off alcohol for two days, I'm looking forward to how good i'm going to feel.
The buzz feels good and comforting, the comedown causes you to feel unnerved. You feel better if you keep drinking, and you're gonna be up late watching a movie / playing a game / out at the bar anyway, so why not keep drinking some more?
Then it becomes a habit and your body decays.

indeed user, indeed

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no, it’s a genetic thing they just haven’t discovered an actual gene responsible yet but the evidence that it’s inherited is there. social factors and other genetic factors like mental disease have obvious implications as well. I’m the same way, once I start I can’t stop. I’ve really tried to dissect my line of thinking while drinking in order to nail down exactly why I am the way I am. So far the only reasonable explanation i have is I don’t want the buzz to wear off too early and if I’m gonna put on a buzz, I might as well not half ass it, which I think is a reasonable line of thinking when it comes to anything except alcohol

I'm actually drinking more alcohol since I quit weed
Not sure if it's a good trade but weed made me feel like a zombie

>Depression out the ass
>Alcoholic mother
I was doomed from the get like a goat in the temple

I didnt used to be like this though, thats the odd thing. Maybe spending two years trying to drink myself to death did some shit to my brain.

Got so bad bro. I've tried my best to casually have a few. Occasionally itl seem like it's going well for even a few months, but in the end, I always piss on something. We should not drink I think.

>haven't drank in a year
not a big difference except it's easier to wake up in the morning. It's a slight inconvenience at events where everybody wants to drink. And it's a little annoying that I don't have a nice relaxing beer to look forward to after a long day's work, but eventually you will realize that that's a shitty motivation anyways, and you shouldn't be working towards a bottle of beer but rather doing something you enjoy and striving towards success. Oh yeah, and the other advantage is that you can have visible abs all the time. If you eat healthy then alcohol is the main reason that you're fat.

unless you have a chemical imbalance, you could probably eliminate most if not all your depression by not drinking. trust me, I went from drinking everyday in college where I felt legit suicidal and embarrassingly revealed it to some people, to this where I hated myself, to now where I drink at most 1-2 times per month and I feel completely normal and genuinely happy. alcohol is fucked man. The only reason I still do it every now and then is because I like the way a lot of stuff tastes, the immediate effect is fun, and in some respects it’s necessary for social health

Almost a year since i stopped blacking out every weekend or even drinking at all. the weight dropped off and i can see my cheekbones, another 2 months and i’ll see my jawline be super defined

I feel less depressed and bloated too. Started exercising after i quit so i cant say but i feel better in all ways

I only started drinking in college when I was 18. After four years I was seriously drinking at least 12 beers every night. I was shotgunning a beer or two before class. functional alcoholism, basically. At my worst I was taking pain killers and drinking. Had to completely delete all social media because of some blackout posts I had. I’m surprised I didn’t actually kill myself, and weirdly enough I was redpilled in how real families react to suicidal tendencies and substance abuse because my mom pretended she never heard my phone calls or voicemails when I was sitting in an parking lot at 3am with a rubber hose intended to use in my car. thankfully I wasn’t completely annhilated then because I probably would’ve died. and all that only took 2-3 years of heavy drinking after not drinking at all in high school. scary stuff

damn you hit the nail on the head and when I asked my mom if we had any drinkers in my family she said my grandpa was a huge alcoholic.
that's a terrible trade. I don't drink anymore but I still vape weed and hash once in a while I'll smoke using a bubbler. Weed only makes you feel like a zombie if you smoke more than you vape it (smoking weed has a hangover effect called being "burnt" which can cause you to feel sluggish.) indica weed also causes lethargy.
Nofap + no alcohol is prime condition. If you're going to use weed, vape it.
this is very true. alcohol makes you feel okay with procrastinating on your dreams. Instead of stopping your drive with alcohol, do something productive. it's good to use energy, alcohol is like cutting open your energy reserves as if nature gave you too much of it to deal with.

I support this. I go through periods where my daily drinking creeps up. When I lay off, I realize I wasn’t even enjoying it. It just because a comfortable habit. Sobriety is great and is good to maintain for a while. When I start drinking again alcohol is much more pleasurable, but that initial level of relaxation from the first drink in a month should not be chased as it can’t be recreated.

I also never get drunk anymore as that is always a waste of time and bad side effects like embarrassment and shame and hangovers.

I try as well. And then after my friends leave it turns into me drinking beers in bed listening to fucking Mogwai at 3 am again 5 hours after my friends have left.
Its more chronic depression that makes life hard to enjoy. My 26th birthday is around three months out on May 2nd. I think ill take a break until then.
>because my mom pretended she never heard my phone calls or voicemails when I was sitting in an parking lot at 3am with a rubber hose intended to use in my car
Dear fuck man. How is everything now?

yeah, that nice relaxing feeling you get when you crack a beer after a long day's work is similar to jizzing. You shouldn't be doing it all the time.

>chasing the initial relaxation feeling after a month of not drinking
too fucking true. when I do finally decide to have a couple drinks after a long time off I instantly want to start drinking more often and need to repress the urges
everything is honestly great now. I landed a really promising career that provides a comfortable life and retirement. that was a major milestone in my life and definitely helped turn shit around knowing I’m at least financially stable. In terms of the depression/suicidal tendencies, I’m honestly embarrassed about my past and cringe when I think about the shit I did and said to people. I don’t want to die. It felt like I did back then. But I don’t. I was just in a really really dark place that alcohol only exacerbated.

Aye, I’m 41 and I’m drinking right now. I have a few drinks every night before bed and I’ve been doing this since 2002 and I’m one of those alcoholic types that has trouble stopping after I start.

Here’s the thing. Hard alcohol is much easier to control than beer or wine. I stick with vodka myself.

The most important thing is what you mix it with and how much water you drink with it. I have a 1 liter cup and I put 1-2 shots of vodka in it and fill the rest up with water. Then I either squeeze a lemon slice or put a couple tablespoons of apple cider vinegar in it for a little taste. It tastes like shit but you get used to it and eventually like it. I sip on 3-4 of these in the last few hours before bed and the buzz comes on slow but I am drunk and ready for bed after a few hours. I may have 3 to 8 shots but I also drank 3-4 liters of water and some lemon or ACV to break down the alcohol. It works better than any sleeping pill I’ve taken and I still workout first thing in the morning. Those little concentrated drinks and the sugar and shit in it is a huge contributor to your hangovers.

Glad to hear you're doing good now man. Yeah, ive made some jokes about killing myself while drunk and have worried some friends. How often are you drinking now?

if you feel good then do as you will man. can’t argue against happiness. personally alcohol fucks up my sleep cycle bad. I have this sleep monitoring app that measures when you are in and out of deep sleep. I thought it was bullshit but when I was sober, the line graph depicted these nice waves of going in and out of REM. When I was drunk, it dropped to deep sleep and stayed bottomed out for like 5 hours. Like I was dead or something.

it's not worth it. I've been drinking 12 beers a day or equivalent for months now. I keep telling myself "one last time, it's just one more day" because I am chasing that feeling of complete carelessness that I had when I started drinking back when I was a teenager with no responsibilities. but it's not the same, and it will never be the same. slowly that feeling was replaced with shame, hangovers and regret. I got shit to do now. my health and fitness are going to shit.

I'm close to a week sober now which is the longest I have been in months.

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>I’m 41 and I’m drinking right now.
>I have a few drinks every night before bed
>Here’s the thing. Hard alcohol is much easier to control than beer or wine.

Shame on you for not encouraging them to quit completely. Instead you cope and make excuses how to "control" your addiction. I'm 45 and I'm embarrassed of your sorry ass.

Everyone should quit drinking alcohol. It's shit and will only bring pain to your life. Took me far too long in my life to have the courage and will power to kick it.

maybe 1-2 times a month. holidays or special events. When I do I try to stick to bloody marys, red wine, whiskey cocktails, or lite beer. I came up with those options after considering three factors: least likely to binge, health conscious, and lastly good tasting. ill binge drink anything but pounding the first 3 is a chore to me. I could drink a gallon of lite beer in an hour but it’s lite beer. Also it’s my last option though cause fuck beer

I was drinking a 12 pack of coors light tall boys a night for a good while. Sobered up. Ended up getting my hands on some ghb and using a lot every night over the course of a week. Used the last of my supply last night and ended up throwing up and feeling horrible all day today. If I could I’d do a little g on the weekends or something, but I’m not so sure anymore. I really just want a girlfriend and a decent income.

How do you manage that? I know once I get that first beer in my I will binge drink anything in my fridge. Its odd though, on the weekends I throw caution to the wind and destroy myself but I could go have a single cider right now and be fine.

Lol last week I drank like 3 bottles of bourbon all while still lifting. I have a fucking problem and I can feel it in my chest during my sets. I'm going to have a freaking heart attack desu

Anyways I've put down the bottle for a bit and I'm currently 3 days sober.

Last night I had the most vivid and crazy dream where friends and family strapped themselves to a sort of horizontal rocket device. I think the plan was to go to the moon or some shit and I pussied out at the last second but talked to them on a walkie-talkie. I remember the last moment of my dream was my brother whispering 'so this is what the centre of the universe looks like' before I woke the fuck up so dazed and confused. It was one of those dreams that you feel like you were in for multiple days.

Anyways I recommend sipping on ice water to keep your hands occupied while you detox.

See if you can go a month bro, I believe in you

I agree. When people are on a cycle of drinking it does something horrible to their mind and they can’t see how miserable they’re making themselves until they quit, their brain clears up, and look around and see all the other drunk alcoholic idiots

I've tried to stop drinking in the past and failed. the thing is, in the back of my mind I never actually wanted to stop drinking forever. I keep falling for shortcuts like keto, fasting, omad etc because what I actually want is to get my health and weight back on track so I can drink again.

Keep it up soberbros. Anyone else on the other side of the coin? I'm straightedge as fuck, never touched alcohol and don't plan to start. It's a struggle to fit in with normalfags though, literally all their activities seem to involve alcohol somehow.

Does my risk of early death even matter anymore? I mean I've adopted so many bad habits from the past that I don't even really see why I shouldn't just die now. I'm sure that I've worked my time of death to around the early 50s and there's absolutely nothing I can do to get that time back.

I don’t keep alcohol in my house or drink alone. But when I do drink on that holiday or at that work party, I still get drunk, as does everyone else. However I get drunk easier now than I used to since I’m not drinking everyday. I can actually have 2 beers now and feel a buzz coming on which is amazing. I think a lot of what you’re saying has to do with what another user above said about working just to get to the end of the day and have that relaxing beer. For a lot of people, and probably you, it’s probably the same but working for the weekend so you can “throw caution to the wind.” I can’t tell you how many times I’ve woken up thinking “never again” only to work all week and completely forget how much of a piece of shit I felt like the previous weekend and do it all over. Try drying out for an extended period. I personally think it’s easier then trying to moderate your drinking from the start since the problem is self control AFTER the first drink. Just never have the first drink.

I can’t knock people for glorifying alcohol. It’s been glorified for thousands of years. Silenty relish the fact that you recognize the benefits of not drinking and make sure your friends stay safe.

why would you die so young

Oh yeah, I completely understand it and don't think lesser of anyone for drinking. I'd be lying if I didn't have a little bit of "holier-than-thou" in me for being so autismal about drugs, but I try my best to not judge anyone else. It's just that when you don't participate in something that everyone else does regularly it kind of brands you as an outsider. Well, I'm used to it so I try not to let it bother me too much.

Used to be obese, used everything from LSD to heroin (not anymore though), still addicted to carbs and alcohol, don't exercise as much as I should, don't get outside as much as I should.

>completely forget how much of a piece of shit I felt like the previous weekend and do it all over.
God damn it just hits way too close to home. I am having a single beer right now, just a single cider. I have no intention of going into my fridge and grabbing some more and getting hammered. How long do you recommend I go dry? Just lost on why I can have this beer now and be fine but on the weekend when I see my friends fuck my shit up

i dont drink or smoke or do any drugs but ill buy the odd bag of redman chew when I visit my brother. we always go floating or fishing on the river so we enjoy splitting a bag. tobacco has a lot of positives if used on rare occasion like that, or at least that’s my experience. grew up watching my addictive dad drink and smoke a ton so i stay away from them naturally.

any advice quitting porn? i can go a month or so without it no problem but always end up “using” again. if it wasnt an addiction, then why cant i stop?

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god damn man that fucking rack

Fuck. I'm the same way with wine. I always say I'm gonna stop at 1 glass. Then 2 bottled later . . . . I sleep like shit, my guts hurt, and I feel so disappointed in myself.

look i dont care id you believe me or not but she has absolutely gigantic nipples. like bigger than my palm

Probably cause you have mentally accepted that you can’t get fucked up tonight. And on the weekend you have no responsibilities. I was like that between being a complete alcoholic and a social/functional alcoholic. Also drinking with friends that are big drinkers gets competitive in the sense that you may be drinking to keep up (such as when someone is getting another drink and asks if you want one too).
Just from personal experience I’d say dry out for a minimum of 1 month. Absolute minimum, cause you’ll probably need 2 weeks to get over the urges. You might even lose sleep. The following 2 weeks you’ll still be really bored on the weekends since you have nothing to look forward to but you should feel healthy and enjoy better sleep. I’d say go longer but I know how hard it is from social pressure. Just don’t start binging all the time again. My holiday and special event thing has been working well for me for about a year. I drink rarely and when I do it’s guilt free

sauce

Every shit heel in my town lives to be like 70 despite doing any and all drugs. It’s like heroin preserves them

Finished the cider, while my mind is going "hey go grab a second" the will power is there and I am done for the night.
> Just don’t start binging all the time again
Easier said then done, I fear every saturday this is what I will be doing. Honestly just one Saturday off from drinking would be nice. I might just try and stay sober until May

>Falling for the liquid jew

seen

just don’t buy it ya know? And don’t go out with friends. Like I said you’ll be bored but it’s your health. It’s insane though how there was a time where I would be actively tellling myself no while driving to the liquor store and buying a 12 pack. Only to get home, pound two back to back and immediately get that relaxing “ah” feeling. So I get how hard it is and that it’s easier said then done. But it’s just what you gotta do. Go buy a video game or binge some shit on Netflix. Even eating a bunch of unhealthy food for a short time to curb cravings is better than actually drinking. You just gotta get over the addiction first, then you can work on actually living a moderated life. It’s all worth it in the end

Yeah, not sure how long it's been since I didn't actively quit so much as just haven't ever wanted to drink. Maybe a year and a half now? Idk

I had my run in with drugs and at this point I want nothing to do with them, whether or not they're legal

where

I dont think my friends would appreciate me dropping off the earth for three or so months. We chill at my place every weekend. I do think I should take until May off and go from there

based stroke poster
True. If you can control yourself around them then more power to you man. I really hope it works out because I know how good it feels to be over it

I cant, im always the drunkest in the room and its starting to bother me. I get it they have to drive later so they dont get as hammered as me but I feel like an asshole sometimes.

I mean control yourself by having them over and not drinking

Tried it before and got nowhere, I guess I can try again this weekend. I just don’t get why I have zero control on weekends and control on weekdays. Maybe it’s the whole looking forward to getting fucked up

I used to be a pretty serious alcoholic, I would go through a half gallon every 3 days during the week and a bit more on the weekend. Now I would still say I drink too much but that's only if I drink more than twice a week and I neverrrr get drunk any more. Can't afford to pay that price the next day

I’m not /noalcohol/ but I should be. I just really enjoy a beer come Friday nights. Usually ends up just being 1 or 2 so I think I’m okay but it’s definitely not necessary and can be cut.

I drank this whiskey a couple months ago. It was lovely.

That bottle of bookers is like 126 proof if I remember correctly. Deliciously gnarly stuff, fucked me up. Worth $60 for the bottle.

>the anti-fag ideology somehow being construed as "fag".

Poor boy

>be recovering alcoholic
>drank at least two fifths of vodka a day, not including the random assortment of speed, coke and weed
>if i tried not to drink in the morning I'd get violent shakes and debilitating panic attacks
>if I somehow made it 24 hours I'd get cold sweats alternating with hot flashes, DTsand the occasional seizure
>literally cannot think straight anymore, anxious shaking mess if Im sober, drunken blacked out idiot if Im not
>miserable and praying for death
>upper abdomen swelling and it constant pain, shitting blood
>underweight because i spend all my money on booze and drugs
>fast forward to 1 year+ of sobriety
>can think again, no crazy mood swings or anxiety
>health problems fixed themselves, no longer skinny af too
>happy person most of the time, calm and confident
Fuck alcohol. Literally the worst drug and the hardest thing ive ever had to kick. Alcohol withdrawals 100x worse than dope, coke or meth and those other drugs were way easier to give up. Alcohol fucked my body and mind worse than any other drug I've ever abused, and the high wasnt even nearly as great as coke or h. Meth was pretty meh though, only did that to keep the party going when I couldn't find coke or amphetamines.

My limit is 2 drinks, I barely even drink that because I feel lethargic after.

Fuck off drugoid, nobody wants to hear about your "glory" days

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Soberfag here. Got better gains, I’ve been fit in the past but for 4 good years I was a huge alcoholic. Really hard to go to the gym when I’m hungover 6 days a week and only have enough energy to get to work.

What’s great is I’m still a depressed fag with additive personality, the gym is my new vice and been getting lots more mirins lately compared to when I was just fat and depressed

Are you such a fucking retard that you missed the entire point of my post? The whole thing is about how shit alcohol is and literally wreck my body and mind. I shouldn't be surprised though that a conservatard lacks reading comprehension though.

Dude said he was having seizures and praying for death. Pretty sure he wasn't trying to glorify his past.

Honestly, fucking good for you, OP. I caught myself drinking more often than I'd like lately, also got into whisky and noticed early so I'm cutting back.

I see the style, I respect the style

My drink of choice was the Berringer's White Zinfandel. I was drinking 2 bottles a night all to myself - only thing to give me a buzz.

I stopped drinking and occasionally have a beer with pizza (last beer was over the Super Bowl).

I have lost a ton of weight and feel better in general. Alcohol will mess you up and ruin your progress with anything. Hangovers will linger and cloud your judgement even when you think you aren't hung over anymore.

dude, I just want to say that it is awesome that you managed to quit drinking, i know how hard it can be, and what's especially hard, in your case, is the cocks you had to drink around you white zinfandel drinking fucking faggot

What helped me to my own surprise, was picking up 16:8 intermittent fasting. I used to drink 2-3 liters of beer casually while gaming on weekdays. Since I set that no more calories after 8 p.m. it's astonishingly easy to just drink one or two and leave it at that.

kek it was $5 a bottle and guarantees a good buzz. i'd drink bourbon but nearly gave myself alcohol poisoning with it so now the smell of it makes me want to vomit

Exact same situation, I become my worst self when drunk, followed by a 2-3 day hangover and then maybe 3 or so days of depression. I still drink every now and then, but I try and limit myself and plan it out where I don't have much to do in the following days. Wish I was one of those people who could get drunk without problems.

I used to have beers every evening, but since starting to lose weight and switching to OMAD/ 20:4 intermittent fasting, I still get tempted, but breaking the fast feels like a defeat so I just don't do it.

i have been no alcohol after being diagnosed in may

had a few slips ups got drunk on 6 beer and did coke one night early october
dec 23rd and boxing day i had four beer and got a light buzz, felt like shit and shit about it both times but was pressured by family.
i dont notice anything different i guess i am more healthy? not having hangovers is awesome.
I think people who dont have to quit try to find some fake benefit

I hope you all have great success with avoiding alcohol and other substances ruining your progress in whatever your current goal is.
I might still have a nice glass of bookers on occasion but after learning my grandpa was an alcoholic I really noticed the habit forming in myself. I'm glad I was able to pinpoint this at age 25 instead of 35, 45...

Non drinker here, how much do you think I can consume monthly without it ruining my gains?
I'm especially afraid of the carbs in beer and the estrogen from malt

Solid advice

70 is still too short though. Anything lower than 100 years (while still being able to shoot a gun) is nothing more than a life wasted.

I have been alcohol free since November 2017.
Overall I would say it's a bit of a drag. In my opinion the healthiest way to drink is to binge on occasion, like once every few weeks or whatever. Having a "drink" is pleb-tier.

I fucking love getting blackout shitfaced, getting into trouble and generally being a fucking idiot when I get drunk. The social benefits of getting drunk as fuck with your friends far outweighs any health problems that arise.

>be australian
> alcoholic
pretty well a fucking given, get us another cold one cunt

I get depressed the day or two after drinking. I hate the feeling. Plus I work too hard to give it up. I’ll have a beer or two occasionally.

It's been a month and a half since I last drank, and 3 weeks since I started exercising every day. Going to keep doing this for another 4 or so months until my next birthday, then see where I am fitness wise. Probably won't start drinking every week again unless I go back to college (grad school) full time.

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who /1 drinking night a week/ here?

>going to the store is genetic
>buying alcohol is genetic
>ordering a drink at a bar is genetic
>lifting it to your lips and swallowing is genetic
>repeating it over and over is genetic

People who say this shit are fucking losers and deserve to be weeded out of humanity after being squeezed for their resources. It’s the exact same argument fat people make. Kys thx

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Your the kind of guy that says depressed people should "just stop being sad lol" -kys double

I didn't drink for 4 years.
I was super lean and cut.
Life happens, drink myself stupid for 6/7 months
Have bitch tits and a gut.

Fuck alcohol.