NoFap for the first time, let's talk about its myths

is NoFap legit or is it bro science?

I've seen arguments on both sides, good ones.
Hell, even the xhamster twitter account made the clarification some time ago about why they think Fapping is healthy, but I wasn't really convinced by their point of view.

are these stories true?
what is your personal experience?

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ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/12659241/
yourbrainonporn.com/rebooting-porn-use-faqs/any-connection-between-orgasm-abstinence-and-testosterone-levels/testosterone-research-versus-testosterone-myths/
plagueofstrength.com/no-fap-more-like-no-fucking-way/
plagueofstrength.com/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are/
plagueofstrength.com/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are_07/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masturbation#Health_effects
europeanurology.com/article/S0302-2838(16)00377-8/abstract/ejaculation-frequency-and-risk-of-prostate-cancer-updated-results-with-an-additional-decade-of-follow-up
news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/researchers-say-frequent-ejaculation-could-save-mens-lives/news-story/dedd2ce2cb85c9cf6ff67f24c455dbe5
webmd.com/prostate-cancer/news/20040406/frequent-ejaculation-prostate
urology.jhu.edu/newsletter/prostate_cancer712.php
frequenturinationinmenexplained.com/ejaculation-and-prostate-cancer/
m.joe.endocrinology-journals.org/content/52/1/51.short
answers.webmd.com/answers/5004889/what-nutrients-do-you-lose-when-ejaculating-or-masterbating-do-you-lose-testerone-
healthtap.com/user_questions/1294935-how-long-does-your-body-take-to-replace-the-nutrients-lost-by-masturbation
twitter.com/NSFWRedditVideo

Depends on your relationship to porn, if you are like me and like to beat it 3-4 times a day to age play binaural audio tracks over ecchi, slime fart compilations, and tranny bbc porn then it’s good to take a break, I think once a week and with out porn is ideal.

>believing in a fucking porn distributor who literally sells the shit based on your sexual depravities and fetishes.

user, who the fuck cares. If you think its going to better your life go for it. Its all about a healing mindset, I do it because I feel damaged by porn and feel hatred for the sin I have committed upon my soul so I must repent even if its a placebo. Try it, and if it doesn't work for you then you didn't jack it for a couple days so what.

Reading Xhamster's arguments.
KYS.

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Unless you have gf then just quit it all together.

this is the kind of tweets i'm talking about

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Yep, retard confirmed.

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Fuck these rats.

kys user these arguments are retarded. Literally video of condoned sodomizing and the defacement of the human body for pain and pure sadistic pleasure on their sites. Who cares if it's free its damaging your brain, its not normal. Fuck them for actually falling for a meme that everyone stops in like the first week. They want your soul and money, don't give it to em.

(((Kressenstein))) LMAOing at this. Who are these people? Who gave them a degree in anything? This is why I lift, so when the day comes and everything falls apart I can join fellow patriots and bash commie degenerate skulls with.

>xhamster twitter account made the clarification some time ago about why they think Fapping is healthy

Unironically kys

Personal experience from Nofap November. I felt a lot of energy for the first 1-2 weeks. More energy during workouts, a bit more focus, and for some reason, I began to wake up earlier in the day on my own. It sort of dwindled off though after the first week though.

Based

>these nazis want purity
I mean, he is right

Yep, it unlocked my Aryan Borean NatSoc powers, now I can sense skaven of the kike from miles away and kill non whites (meds included) with my mind.

I fully support noporn and nofap for a variety of reasons but that 45% testosterone boost claim followed by continuous testosterone growth is bunk. The study you’re talking about, was a small Chinese one that noted an SMALL upward shift in testerstone after 7 days of abstaining followed by a reduction in testosterone back to normalized levels.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/12659241/

Am I wrong or could you show me studies indicating otherwise?

>is NoFap legit or is it bro science?
Depends. The magic superpowers everyone claims to get are placebo. Depending on how far down the hole you are, you'll get the usual benefits of quitting a bad habit: more time, willpower gains, experience dealing with urges self confidence and so on.
But seriously why does a thread like this pop up every week? Just give it a try and see for yourselves, what the fuck have you got to lose?

Also, very small sample size. It was done on genetically different people than most people on this site (European vs Chinese)

I ended up finding the answer put myself. Noporn is good for you, but it has nothing to do with testosterone.
yourbrainonporn.com/rebooting-porn-use-faqs/any-connection-between-orgasm-abstinence-and-testosterone-levels/testosterone-research-versus-testosterone-myths/

Also keep in mind that small Chinese studies like the one you linked tend to be unreliable dog shit because of big pressure to actually ‘discover’ something in your paper. Adds another point of doubt.
No idea why anyone cares about this study.

Outrageous claims like the one in your picture that are completely out of the persons ass with not even a hint of any existing study to back it up makes me think no fappers are just mentally retarded

Try it yourself, pornography is satanic and masturbating brings destruction to the flesh

See you there bruder

I don't know about test changes. But I can give you my own anectodal story and state nofap is credible. I'm 28, Every year or so I go with my parents to visit family abroad in a hot climate and its a bit closer to nature.

As I'm sharing the house with them for over a week I end up abstaining. During this time I get what I can only describe as a 'confident horniness' which differs from the sad perversion browsing Jow Forums. I concede that the nice environment and weather is perhaos contributing but this feeling continues when im back home in the city with the rainy weather (not as strong but still pronouncable).

- I find myself feeling more confident.
- My overall mood is better.
- I take more risks (silly things like crossing the road mid traffic)
- I'm more likely to start small talk at the gym.
- I find women a whole lot more attractive. Girls who I would normally ignore I now think (why the fuck not?).

Man I need to start nofap again.

I think half of the posters here are discord trannies, change my mind.

Only half of it is bullshit. the seven day thing is legit

Well I don't really give a shit what anyone says, It works for me. I went from fapping 2-3 times a day everyday to once a month for 3 months. Felt better and better after every week. Before even when I got 9 hrs of sleep, I would still be tired and not want to wake up, but couldn't fall back asleep, which was frustrating. On nofap, after 6-7 hours, when I woke up, I was "awake" right away. Like I had no need to stay in bed and try to go back to sleep. That was extremely nice. I absolutely had more energy, and I just felt more regulated in terms of mood. Before nofap I would get pissed off at things a lot. After, it was more like "Well I can't change it, so who cares". I didn't have as much anxiety when talking to people too, whereas before I would be stumbling over my words, lose my train of thought, and be in my head a lot.

Then I fell off the wagon, went back to fapping multiple times a day, and I notice all these bad things came back eventually. I'm trying to quit again though since I don't want to permanently live like this.

Just try it. If it doesn't do anything for you, who cares. The worst case scenario is that you gain more free time for awhile.

>Stop masturbating
>End up not getting girls as usual
>Die of prostate cancer

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I need help
Why is it I cant just quit
Why not? I haven't gone past 14 days since mid last year and going oast 5 days is torture (not really I just give up because aye why not)

Help me out guys

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best answers in thread, just try it. Day 1 for me brothers

The thing I don't get about nofap is that people say sex is fine yet masturbating is not. How can your brain even tell the difference?
Another thing I've found is that basically all the people with 30 plus day streaks are having sex anyways, the probably have a gf. I think if you have a gf there's no point whatsoever in nofap.
Nofap is pushed on asocial autistic guys like you and I, but not fapping isn't going to get you a gf unless you completely change how you talk, look and interact with people and establish social networks. Not fapping for a while won't make us any better at this.
That being said, I can agree porn is unhealthy and is jew owned anyways.

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You can’t tell the difference in how you feel when you fuck compared to when you wank?

i havent fapped/watched porn in 25 days now and yes, something is working.
not fapping at this point is really easy for me, same for watching porn. however i notice i feel more sexually attracted to women i meet irl, which is the whole point i guess.
i also feel less anxious and depressed but that might be placebo

Is not placebo, watching porn and fapping fucks your brain's chemistry

Like anything it's all about self control and moderation.

Have you ever had sex? Of course your brain knows its different.
>but not fapping isn't going to get you a gf unless you completely change how you talk, look and interact with people and establish social networks.

Thats the point of no fap. Porn/masturbation addiction impedes any of that progress.

>t. centrist
Centrists get the bullet too

because you don't want to.

>tfw not sure if day 4 or 5 or 6

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the day you stop counting the days is the day you've truly begun nofap

just try it out, it works wonders for me for some people it doesn't.
I'm on a 290 streak and I notice girls staring at me when i'm working out, going out of their way to work out close to me and some girls get really touchy feely around me, caressing/touching my torso and arms while talking to me. My skin is clear as fuck and I barely experience shitty days where I feel down.

idk if i can attribute the female attention to nofap or just the facial and muscle gains i've made and this is the problem with most people who are on nofap, they unconditionally think that every positive change in their life can be attributed to nofap but you have no proper grounding in this. For example, during this streak i started meditation and cold showers consistently which will also improve how you feel, experience daily life and the cold showers will help you if you have shitty skin genetics. In the end its probably a combination of all the shit i've engaged in and i can't say what did what so just try it out and see if it works for you. Don't get discouraged when you don't see the results, if you want to form a proper opinion about it reach at least a 90 day streak because that's where the fun begins

>290 days
have you been having sex? any wet dreams?

>Well I don't really give a shit what anyone says, It works for me.

yea i don't give a fuck either what other people say its their loss if they think its bullshit, i feel amazing on it but i couldn't care less if some dude who masturbates frequently tells me that nofap is a meme lol

This is some low iq shit

>find random twitter post from an absolute nobody (15 likes) to strengthen your confirmation bias

This is why you will always be untermensch

>have you been having sex? any wet dreams?

haven't had sex in i think 2 months. currently hitting it up with this girl who is literally gf material since the last 2 weeks so i don't want to bang a random chick now and waste my chances with her. wet dreams only occur frequently if you think/fantasize about sex during the day or before going to sleep

I did nofap for about 2 months, during which I got laid at least once a week. Here is what I noticed:
>more motivation to do chores and work stuff
>more energy
>easier to get up in the morning
>sex felt better
>came a bit quicker BUT was ready to go again in like 2 mins (fwb was really surprised), sometimes I could just keep going
>more confidence
>it felt great to accomplish a challenge and beat my urges
>girls seemed more interested in me and I was more open and flirtatious
>less anxiety (I even volunteered for a role in a role play in uni in front of 30 people and talked in front of everyone, made jokes and shit - something I wouldn't have done before)

Then I stopped and became more lazy and unmotivated again and more anxious around strangers.
Now I'm on nofap again since I think 2 weeks and the positive changes are coming back. I'm more assertive and aggressive in a positive way, I do my chores, I get up more easily.
And I kinda like to retain my cum until I can blast it all into my girl. Feels a hell of a lot more rewarding than dribbling it into some tissue.

>(((Krassenstein))) is a nobody
>639k followers
Why don't you try only talking about things you actually know, brainlet.

You have to live it. Counting the days only tells yourself that you'll relapse eventually.

>Counting the days only tells yourself that you'll relapse eventually.

only rationalizations and a lack of discipline tells you that you'll relapse eventually but i agree bro, you have to live it

>plagueofstrength.com/no-fap-more-like-no-fucking-way/
>plagueofstrength.com/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are/
>plagueofstrength.com/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are_07/
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masturbation#Health_effects
>europeanurology.com/article/S0302-2838(16)00377-8/abstract/ejaculation-frequency-and-risk-of-prostate-cancer-updated-results-with-an-additional-decade-of-follow-up
>news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/researchers-say-frequent-ejaculation-could-save-mens-lives/news-story/dedd2ce2cb85c9cf6ff67f24c455dbe5
>webmd.com/prostate-cancer/news/20040406/frequent-ejaculation-prostate
>urology.jhu.edu/newsletter/prostate_cancer712.php
>frequenturinationinmenexplained.com/ejaculation-and-prostate-cancer/
>m.joe.endocrinology-journals.org/content/52/1/51.short
>answers.webmd.com/answers/5004889/what-nutrients-do-you-lose-when-ejaculating-or-masterbating-do-you-lose-testerone-
>healthtap.com/user_questions/1294935-how-long-does-your-body-take-to-replace-the-nutrients-lost-by-masturbation

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Not even broscience, just a dumb, culty meme. The test boost is minuscule and not even active, and it takes a nosedive after seven days. Nofap is only beneficial for compulsive masturbators who masturbate instead of doing something they should be doing, and those types of people need to learn focus and discipline, or else they’ll just replace masturbation with another form of procrastination.

No it doesn't. Taking 10 mins of your day give or take for a wank won't change how you interact with people or look etc. Of course I could be wrong, but do show some evidence to prove you are not spouting bro science. Otherwise it's placebo.

Hamster plz go

s-shut up y-you fucking JOOOOOOOO >:(

>placebo
Placebo still works

If I convince myself that wanking MORE will give me all the alleged benefits of nofap will it make any difference then? They're both placebo after all.

I don't believe any of the "science" surrounding it, but I never really read it either so I don't know. What I do know is there is an energy that comes out of sexual frustration, one that firmly comes from your genitals, and you can tap into that energy as a motivator and use its strength. Masturbation is essentially throwing that energy away for a cheap thrill. At least that's the perception out of my own experience, and I don't need peer-reviewed studies to validate it.

Fuck off shill

Probably

I don't think that anyone here would honestly fight the idea, that porn is bad. It leads to more and more escalation where you end at I honestly feel cranky when I don't get my porn fix for a week or so and I really need to get a handle on this. Feels like a fucking addiction and I hate it.

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Wow great argument really convinced me there just amazing how can anyone critical of the nofap meme even compete

Kys you fucking kike shill subhuman.

Fuck off paid shill, you're not fooling anyone.

>It leads to more and more escalation
rofl no this is as retarded as the "gateway drug" argument.

It's all about not being a slave to your base impulses. When you get sugar cravings do you binge on a box of Krispy creams? It's the same idea with fapping. Controlling your base impulses gives you power over yourself and raises the feel good chemicals in your brain. All the negative shills in this thread can fuck off.

No, however I do eat three times a day at set times.
By that analogy the best thing to do would be #scheduled_fap, not nofap.

It's a cope, it won't fix the fact you're ugly, manlet, have shit bones, diseases, balding or what not. But it makes you feel special because you're not beating your dick, cope. People pretend you'll look like Doctor Manhattan after a few weeks without masturbating because you're holding minerals into your body, why not just go ahead and take phosphate, zinc or serotonin pills if you are that paranoid about losing some minerals.

The only rebuttal you can come up with to this is saying it's just a stoicism challenge like no pillow or whatever people are doing now.

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Maybe once per month and no porn

Sounds like a jew

Lol 10 minutes

It can be good for your self disciplin witch could benefit your gains.
I regularly work out my disciplin by for example brushing my teeth with my opposite hand.
But I think you're as well off jerking it with your opposite gains wise.

you are supposed to have sex instead of furious masturbation, so there's no risk of prostate cancer

I dont need a study that "proves" that smashing your finger with a hammer hurts, you fucking faggot.

Lmao you think sex is just sticking your dick somewhere wet and cumming? There's a difference you fucking idiot

Imagine thinking people are paid to post on nofap threads on Jow Forums

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I like all the souces in that infographic. what if i nofap but have sex? do i lose all my sick semen gains/

posts like this remind me of my Jow Forumsphase and i feel so embarrassed.

Yeah dude just call me Schlomo, I’m making so much money off pornhub that a few hundred autists depriving themselves is really hurting my livelihood.

Holy shit bros I’ve tried it for a week for shits and giggles and I’ve had 4 wet dreams, including two back to back. Wtf, how can I stop soiling my bedsheets and pajamas?

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i know you're paid by the Jewish World Cabal to manipulate innocent go-getter anons on 4channel.org Jow Forums no-fap threads. my resolve is as thick and strong as my seminal fluid and my love for Adolf Hitler and my 100% pure bavarian german blood.

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Does anyone remember that episode of Seinfeld where they all did nofap? Then George and Jerry were suddenly super smart and confident and talked how the cost of sex is high

Posts like these remind me that there’s a systemic attempt by communist redditors to “raid” Jow Forums.

You’re conflating two episodes, season 4’s The Contest, and season 8’s The Abstinence.

Yes, it's me, the communist from Switzerland who works tirelessly to convert the incompetent useless incels of Jow Forums into staunch left wing comrades.

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Lol right, pls take a look at /gif and tell me they're not all craving more and more fucked up shit.

Its so painfully obvious they're worried people kicking their porn addiction will hurt business so they're promoting addiction, much like cigarette companies back in the day. I'm not entirely convinced the body positivity movement wasn't a product of the fast food industry either.

Possibly. But tnx for the names of the episodes, I gotta rewatch it

People have been watching porn since antiquity my nigga. No one's worried. If it makes you feel better to not masturbate go for it. Stop making it a lifestyle though, that shit is gay.

How the fuck do you sleep on NOFAP? I end up tossing and turning til 3am, then waking up again at 8 and feeling like shit all day because I barely slept. Whereas if I fap at 11pm I'm out all night. Whatever the alleged benefits of NOFAP are, they don't outweigh the benefits of a proper night's sleep.

That's just your body adjusting to the superhuman strength and reflexes that not pounding your pud gets you

And how long does the """adjustment""" take? I've gone 10 miserable days on shitty sleep before I gave up and had a wank.

About ten years

>Jewish World Cabal
This is why nobody takes you seriously. Why would the j00s care about a few trend followers not wanking for a few days? Nobody telly stays on the nofap meme for long anyways.
And to top it off you talk about muh pure bloodline as if that's relevant.

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>Implying Jews are not incredibly interested in my masturbation habits
Nice try lizard man.

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They literally posted a graph whining about their traffic drop during the month of november, are you such a brainlet that you don't realise companies don't like losing any amount of buisness?

>summertime, be happy, social and energized
>no fap for a week, tough as hell
>feel amazing benefits, confidence boost and believe it's working

>winter, depressed, feel like death, darkness and tired
>no fap for 2 weeks so far, didn't even notice
>feel same boredom and monotony of life as usual

I guess the benefit of nofap is mostly the confidence boost you get from being able to accomplish a challenge you've set yourself. I've been on nofap for some time now just because I have no desire to do anything and the misery of day to day life hasn't improved one bit

post the post of them posting the graph original though not just a jpg please thanks

When we say "jew" we don't mean literal jews