Is Veganism unironically the best diet for the critically obese or fatties wanting to getting into lifting?
Some vegetables have more problem than meat per calorie
This is shit for lifters as a full stomach makes you want to hurl in the gym
But for the overweight a full stomach will keep them satisfied for longer
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100 calories of broccoli is impossible to do in a sitting
>tfw your coworker unironically tells you that broccoli has more protein than beef
Fake numbers. Steak is at least 10g protein per 100kcal. Brokkoli is lower
No that pic is a meme alright but other veg like Watercress and spinach are extremely problem dense per calorie
Yeah vegan is perfect for fatties.
It will speed up their death
skelly fag
It's around 300g
That's do-able your get really bored after a while though
Well in it's own theory you will starve so it'll be easier for fatties to lose weight sure
Or just teach kids not to be tubby cunts and eat a healthy, balanced, diet.
Fasting :^)
Imagine the braps you would get from eating 2000 calories worth of broccoli to get over 200g of protein a day
>vegans have to eat 1kg of broccoli a day to meet macros
the absolute state of tree fuckers
>”I love being vegan I only have to eat 5kg of broccoli every 2 hours”
Implying plant based protein (30% usable) is better than animal based protein (80-90% usable)
Veganism is bullshit.
Who the fuck would want to eat nearly a pound of broccoli
>photo includes a nigger
>"humans"
AHEM.
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Read the study, then, if you're gonna ignore the associated pictures.
I wonder if the person who made this image genuinely thought that protein/calories is a reasonable unit. Or if there is malicious intent behind this idiocy.
>6kg of broccoli every day
> Not breaking your programming
Meat is NPC blue pill tier
>..and I base that on absolutely nothing.
Please post some scientific studies to back up your claim.
i can not put into words how much i fucking hate picture like this
Fuck me you need to eat 1kg of brocoli to get 28g of protein do you know how much brocoli that is? No wonder the vegans are all malnourished and dying. Good for them.
I was raw fruitarian for about three weeks. I felt pretty good and quickly lost fat but I just couldn't hold it up.
Fruit is a complete gamble in terms of quality and I ended up throwing away a lot because it was just unripe shit, in fruit season. And I'm not going to forcefeed myself a kg or more of fucking bananas every day.
No energy for lifting, I was walking around a lot and enjoying nature though. Always daily massive shits because of all the fibre, went to piss very often.
Right now I consume lots of fat from good animal products, has been going on for again around three to four weeks.
I don't have to eat all day anymore because a glass of fresh semi-raw milk with an egg will actually keep me satisfied until noon.
I also have lots more energy, fat burning might have slowed down just a little bit but I guess if anything that's just more gentle to the skin.
Plenty of energy for lifting and psyched about it, I really want to get on the iron plates now. I only shit every other day and go to piss maybe two or three times a day, urine still looks clear.
A more carnivorous diet seems to fit me very well, fat keeps burning away and I'm putting on good muscle which in return keeps my mind in a good mood.
Things I used to get upset about don't bother me anymore. I'm very happy with this.
I went plant-based wholefoods for 2 months. I won't lie the fat starts shedding off, but I always had issue getting enough protein so my gains started lacking a bit.
If you're critically obese or a fatty, I honestly think a plant-based wholefoods diet is the best you can be on.
I have a vegan friend who got fat because of being vegan so no
eh, it's good I guess but carni is much better. I did it for a month actually forcefeeding myself because going by hunger alone I was eating very little and I went from 14% to 11% and actually gained muscle.
Veganism is unironically the best way to become a brainlet. Do the math, how much brocoli do you need to match 200g of roast beef in terms of protein?
Trash epidemiological study. That doesn't even say what vegans purport it to.
Meat is neutral risk according to China Study
The chad roast beef.
168 cal
28,3 gr protein
Vs
The virgin Broccoli
162 cal
17,4 gr protein
Vegans btfo once more, how will they ever recover?
The shit vegans forget when being so holy and fuckin high and mighty is that farming kills shit too. What about all the voles and mice and shit that get their dens plowed through, all the forests that get torn up for cropland, etc. Life is death, get used to it. To exist is to consume, and if you can't get past that then you're never gonna make it. Not even gonna mention the studies that certain plants we eat can feel pain, at least their version of it.
Veganism is a starvation diet, so the only thing it is good for is to help Obese people lose some weight, because a vegan diet mimics aushwitz levels of nutrients intake.
A person would have to really eat vegetables and shit, because if a fatty ate vegan pizza and vegan junk food they would remain obese. But here are the results of the long term vegans....
>Does anorexia help you lose weight?
All this.
Vegans literally scream and moan how much they "care about animals" one second. One second later they laugh in your face if you ask them to stop dumping chemical pesticides on wild animals.
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Provide a higher tier of evidence to dispute pls
Majority of grown crops are to feed cattle. Majority of the rain forest that is torn down is for grass fed beef.
The best way to mimimise harm against animals is to adopt a whole food vegan diet.
Your statement, part 1 is a lie.. you could argue that crops are grown for livestock, but you said "cattle" which eat grass for most of their lives.
Part 2 you bring up china--brazil trade as if that has anything whatsoever to do with Western choices.
tl*dr you're a massive liar like all vegans. Stop dumping chemical pesticides on wild animals please??
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Not every soil can grow every plant tho. Besides that, your machines produce more waist than humans, and not only that, but land isn't constantly fertile. If you keep on digging and planting shit, it will become unable to sustain itself. Good thing that corpses replenish and give back to the soil.
Change calories to weight and beef wins very easily. Besides, extra lean beef is a thing so it’s not like eating beef means you have to consume a lot of fat. Finally, the protein in almost all kinds of vegetables, beans, nuts, and grains does not have a complete amino acid profile and for that reason is not ideal for building muscle. Onions has a complete profile, but rainforests are being torn down so more onions can be grown so that defeats the purpose if you’re vegan for animals’ sakes.
Not him and not vegan but china-brazil trade actually is affected by the west. Lots of us companies go around trump’s tariffs by sending their stuff to china through brazil.
Been vegan for 4 years now, currently doing babbys first bulk.
how my other vegan bros going?
>tfw so much fibre my shits require 2 wipes at most.
Problem without animal aminoacids isnt enough form muscular growth
Vegans can't consume literally the best protein sources:
0% Greek Yoghurt and 0% Cottage cheese:
>17-20g protein per 100cal
Egg whites:
>26g protein per 117 cal
>Fruit is a complete gamble in terms of quality and I ended up throwing away a lot because it was just unripe shit, in fruit season.
Frozen fruit and vegs are the answer user. Totally under-rated, and you're ensured it's all fresh. I have a bag of frozen blueberries I eat with my oatmeal in the morning.
They're just like liberals crying about fossil fuels, without them they'd have almost nothing as almost everything is a product of fossil fuel. You couldn't have "green energy" without fossil fuel, everything that MAKES everything requires fossil fuels at some point.
French fries and beer are vegan. Try losing fat with those.
I'm doing great bro! I have lost a few teeth, but it's a small price to pay for ending animal suffering.
> “most their lives”
Oh yes. The 97% of cows consumed in the US who happen to be grass fed for a year who then effectively force fed onions for six months.
> Can’t achieve perfection
> Oh well let’s give everything up, why not sink oil tankers for sport?
Majority of crops grown are for feed. They can be repurposed/redirected.
I don't understand why they don't do it the other way around and force feed corn or whatever then finish with grass once they're big
>Source: Albany Times Union
You mean the most liberally biased newspaper this side of the Mississippi? Yeah I'm gonna pass brother
its not about the protein per calorie, its about the sheer volume of watercress, spinach, or broccoli needed to compare to meat.
>Tfw Bobbie's perspective and vegetable police went carnivore
It just seems a lot of these big vegans can't last. I found the same when I tried it. Digestion got me
It’s good for fatties. But the whole “protein per calorie/protein per gram” is retarded due to the absolute volume of greens you’d have to eat. Veggies are undoubtably good for people trying to lose weight, yes.
Just in case nobody else has said this, VEGETABLE PROTEIN DOES NOT HAVE THE SAME AMINO ACID PROFILE AS ANIMAL PROTEIN. IT IS, AS A MATTER OF BASIC SCIENCE, NOT ON THE SAME LEVEL.
Thank you.
Joke's on you, I eat almost no fiber and my shit requires 0 wipes
the fact that this infographic exists is enough to show vegans are mentally deficient
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It is what it is, but vegan liars never admit that the first part of their lives are on grass in the sun.
And many of them get more than one year if they get milkedd, are kept for breeding, steers kept for breeding etc.
It's not cows who have a legit complaint it's wolves and other predators. (We eradicate them to protect the livestock)
Brainwashed vegans only see the final slaughter house images and think that's a cows entire life, when it's really just one bad day
I like muh chicken with a side of raw spinach and carrots so maybe that’s be good.
Yes. If you’re a fat fuck who needs to lose it, stuff yourself silly with greens that are very light in calorie density. Some light protein like fish is ok.
Still pretty cruel. And kills more animals because of the feed used.
hehe
Nice trick. 100 Gram of Beef has around 250 calories whilst the same amount of broccoli has 34. This means that - if the numbers are right what I doubt - you'll get 16g of Protein out of 100g Beef and only 3,77 out of Broccoli. So you'll need 4 times as much broccoli to get as much Protein out as of 100g beef.
Fuck you.
I take it you're willing to eat corn stalks.
Veganism is a fucking meme jesus there are hardly any nutrients in plants due to the dead soil they are grown in and the they are in poorly bioavailable forms, not to mention bound up to anti-nutrients. Eat animals for nutrients and plants if you like the taste. Nutrients are important for fat loss, if you want optimal hormones you need optimal nutrition; indigenous societies had ZERO obesity, the best way to get lean and stay lean (without counting anything) is just to eat like humans ate for thousands of years.
I’m sure there’s plenty of the good stuff
> indigenous societies
Also have a ridiculously low life expectancy
Most of what cows (natural herbivores) cows eat, are things than hmans cannot and will never eat like grass, cornstalks ground up, silage.
Grass fed pasture cows need never eat one bite of human food their whole life. Vegans kill 26x more animals than I do. Cows also get lives, because of my money and all meat eaters money. Vegans only pay for death (chemical pesticides etc)
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See: Remember 97% of “grass fed” beef actual spends a third of its life on feed.
I just get discord trannies to clean my ass after shitting.
Most fatties have some kind of gut biome problem from all the shit they've eaten. When you switch straight to an all-vegan diet you're going to have some problems. Carnivore or keto is for that reason much more effective because it's easier on the biome to adjust.
>AVERAGE life expectancy
ftfy
Let's not pretend like factory farming isn't bullshit and more people should hunt and buy local
T.lives in Arkansas where I can hunt hog year round and get milk eggs and goat from a local farm
Interestingly there are many vegan myths about humans originally having a vegan or vegan+fish diet.
I used to have a pretty healthy diet of just lean meat and veggies. For the past two weeks, I went vegan as an experiment. I replaced the meat with beans, nuts, seeds, nutritional yeast. I gained 6 pounds in two weeks. I'm sure it's mostly water, but it still feels like shit.
Is that really sustainable for the whole population?
Wow, it’s fucking nothing
yeah.... fuck no
this bag is equivalent to a bite of steak
Wow, middling values have mixed results
Humans are at an extremity. If we were 3 or even 2, there might be some arguing, but we're 1-1.5
That's just a lie and word twisting. And if cows are fattened up on grains, it's just a symptom of a corrupt system. It doesn't make Veganism superior in any way.
>Sob and cry about caring for animals
>Dump tons of chemical pesticides on animals
Vegans do both of the above with zero hesitation or problem.
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This. I eat 4 packs of broccoli crown a week, which translates to almost 290g/day, as part of my post workout meal.
Only reason i eat it if for the AI properties, then some micros/fiber.
Pesticide free crops are a thing blogspammer.
Besides, by not consuming cattle we vastly reduce the amount of crops grown and therefore reduce the amount of harm from pesticides and harvest.
There's no need for science. The fact that you'll fold under any suggestion your government commands, is superlative enough a point to confer.