Archived #28 >>How does it work?
People will post their Amazon wishlist link according to the instructions below, thanks guys. People who enter the thread may post their list at will, and it is your decision to gift who you want.
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FAQ:
>Does my address get shown?
Your city and state, and shipping name. Refer to the instruction image below. Shipping name can be anything you want.
>How will I know if something has been bought for me?
Items disappear off your list after being purchased. You can also go to your list, press Filter and Sort, then select Purchased.
>Will the information of the gifter be shown to the recipient?
No, all of your information will be protected. The recipient will not see any info.
>How can I post my Wishlist without being blocked by the filter?
Press the Share Envelope and copy the permalink. If that doesn't work, remove the dot from your link.
>Why should I gift something? I'm not gonna get anything in return!
This is a different take on a Secret Santa, where anyone can gift or get from anyone. If you're feeling generous, please do consider giving back to others.
>Last year people bought stuff for others and then cancelled them to epic fucking troll us!
And they did that the previous year, and the year before that too. It happens when you have amazon wishlists, it's disappointing to lose out on a gift, but the item will just go back on your list like they never screwed with you at all.
Remember to have a good time, a lot of us don't have much else going for us in the year, so this event can be fun if you follow the guidelines and tips. Remember to post images of whatever you get so we can make new compilations, big thanks to all participants this year and on and so on and so on and such.
Jow Forums Secret Santa 2018 #29
DO NOT "INVITE" PEOPLE TO YOUR LIST, use "send list to others" instead, thanks
THINGS TO IGNORE:
>PEOPLE BUYING THE ENTIRETY OF YOU AND OTHERS LISTS, NO MATTER HOW EXPENSIVE
>heh, you fuckin idiots...last year i got an epic haul by making fake addresses and got tons of gifts for free...im doin it this time again too :))))
>look at all these things you guys bought my baby, that i totally didn't buy off my own wishlist and post pics with to fuck the thread up!
>god damnit this shit again??? clogging up the top threads of r9k, how else am i gonna see 10 trap threads?????
>DISCORDS DISCORDS DISCORDS
BEST PRACTICES:
>Do not reply to anons claiming to have ##$ for any anons replying to their reply.
>Do not engage with Rich Fags
>Grinchers want attention, do not give them attention thanks
>keep the thread comfy
>do not have Nintendo Switches on your list
>If you claim to have bought something, post proof in the thread
>Trip codes are welcome and even encouraged in this thread
>Do not respond fall for, "Hi, just off to work, I'll look when I get back but here is my list NOW" or "I don't have money rn, but I get paid this Friday, this is my link NOW btw" thanks you guys original
>Don't reply to bait in general
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merry chritmas anons 0':
hoping to get some stuff that are gifts for friends and family ultimately
These threads are really nice. College has been rough on my wallet, and haven't been able to buy anything other than food/books, and would appreciate anything off of my list. Thanks to everyone for these comfy threads!
Can we really trust these threads anymore? I mean, what do we do with this
All i wanted is good christmas feels and warmth.
Do you really think that pic proves anything? It's literally a pic between 2 random emails I could create in a second. Just email yourself back and forth and you can falseflag anyone. Whoever falls for this is retarded, we've had so much proof of anons receiving gifts yet people are trying to push the conspiracy that jannies are actually making most of the lists or something? It's the most retarded thing I've ever seen
More gifts for the unbelievers
MY GIFT GOT CANCELED BY THE SENDER!
FUCK THESE THREADS & THE GREEDY BASTARDS THAT POST THEM!
Who are you fooling? Only thing these pictures prove is how many people you scammed.
Why are you people still falling for this? Fucking retards
Riiiight, go ahead post some proof then.
Ive got something too!
these are all gifts you received though ): all i want from my wishlist is to get something for my friends or family. why do people have to ruin them?
You're posting the proof for us. Please show us more stuff you scammed from people.
Rog posted his e-mail in the last thread. Rich fag posted his when he first appeared. You can vet both of them and the list Rog was using.
We know about the scam.
These are not even my pics Sandler made the compilation, I haven't gotten anything so far, and you can clearly see the receipts are in different languages this is fucking flat earth tier bullshit, if you think it's a scam fine don't post your list and you won't get anything just don't ruin the christmas spirit for the rest of us
>please don't ruin our scam
These threads need reporting and banning.
Seriously please tell me what this image proves? That a random faggot who has donated more than 100$ to robots was being greedy and made 2 lists to get more gifts? Holy shit mind blown how will this event recover? This is so fucking stupid just go away you are embarrassing yourself
>not even my pics
>the fact they're taken with the same camera on the same setting in the same room with the same lighting is just pure coincidence along with the fact these posts clearly break the rules yet are allowed to stay because they only benefit jannies
I guess you don't understand the scam. It's a ponzi scheme
>Start secret santa
>Give out some spare steam codes to get people in the thread
>Gift between yourselves so you all get a couple of items to show off with minimum cost
>New users flood in wanting to gift and get things
>Lock down every account that isn't part of your scam crew
>The only accounts people can donate to are your scam accounts all run by the same group of 3 people
>All future gifts go to you and you make a profit on your $15 investment
Did you not notice all the give aways ended and every account was grinched by a bot as soon as it was posted? It was either a bot or a team of people doing it manually.
The Titus book is mine. Fuck Jules veron
>same camera on the same setting in the same room with the same lighting
Fuck man you've reached flat earth at this point is the background greenscreened CGI too? I don't care about your conspiracies already told you just leave the thread and filter the subject
Hey that's the book I bought for Anxiety user back in thread #24!
1 and 6 is the same table.
3 and 4 is the same cloth.
3 and 6 are the same desk
All too zoomed in. cropped too tightly to make anything out.
same wooden table as above. White surfaces may also be the same.
Sandler's collected images are evidence for not against.
>Fuck man you've reached flat earth at this point is the background greenscreened CGI too? I don't care about your conspiracies already told you just leave the thread and filter the subject
You clearly don't know enough about cameras. Just enough to try & place each item on a slightly different looking background in the same room throughout the day & hope no one else notices.
Too late. Samefagging & posting more of these pictures only further proves this is a giant scam.
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happy holidays guys!
You realize how hard it is to post a fucking pic on here. I take like 8 before I get one that's 2 mb or less
What utter bullshit. Phones don't take large photos by default, you have to set the quality that high and if you did they you know how.
Your arguments make no sense.
>oh no that user took a pic on a wooden table and that other user took a pic on a wooden table
>there is chance two different people would ever use the same desk material that is simply absurd
>next he confuses the fucking giftwrap with the cloth
I told you you are fucking alex jones tier, I'm one who can handle cringy autists but you take the cake. I'm sure if you got a gift you would take it in a fucking cave on your vandablack desk in 4:00am in the morning because you're such a special snowflake just end yourself autismo
3000fag called people cringey and autistic when he didn't get his way. Well done for outing yourself. Was your boyfriend in on the scam as well or did you just want to give him things?
>I take like 8 before I get one that's 2 mb or less
>posting image collages using photoshop
>still deflecting after getting caught.
Sorry guy, not buying your bullshit file size excuse. Or your fake wishlists. Go scam people on Fb or plebbit.
Honestly I don't care about this shit anymore if "these" are the people posting in Secret Sandler I'm ok with the threads dying, I made this thread to give out to other robots but you're such fucking autists that you ruined the whole mood. Maybe Sandler can make a new thread when he's awake, I won't care to bump this shit any further.
I don't even know what you're talking about you mouthbreathing retard
I'm literally a different dude. I got the Titus book and bitched earlier in thread 27 or 28 about the size. An user recommended gimp. I'm not speaking for others I'm speaking for me. My point is that's why some are all fucking close. I got shit then I bought some Aussie fuck mein Kampf. Some may be bullshit but some are real
im a bit of a retard, could someone explain to me how the scam works?
does that mean if someone gifted me something and it says "purchased - 1" how do I know im not grinched? Also how do they go about preventing people to be able to gift to my list?
Thanks in advance
>Honestly I don't care about this shit anymore
Translation
>My scam got found out & no one is biting anymore, so I now give up.
The scam works by having multiple amazon accounts under random names & addresses. Once you make your list grinch proof, post it here. as soon as someone buys an item from your list, change the shipping address on the account to your real address.
Repeat as needed, or until people get wise.
Also, once you changed your shipping address to your real address, close out your wishlist, and start over again with a new account so it all looks like new random people & normins casually reading this thread are none the wiser.
>it is semi-confirmed that 1 person who had given $100 of gifts had 2 accounts therefore the whole shit is a scam and everyone has 20 accounts each
You need a jetpack for this kind of a logical leap
has an explanation of the scam.
You are being grinched if you're not part of this group. They use an option which says your item has been purchased else where. It's supposed to be used for family members to mark items they bought for you not on Amazon. It's abused to lock down your list so no one can order anything.
There was maybe 6 accounts not locked down. We know Rog was running at least 2 of them. And you were one of the people running another. Avatar posting is against the rules.
>It's abused to lock down your list so no one can order anything.
That's not true either, if you don't believe me make an account, grinch yourself and then see if you can buy yourself stuff from that list with another account. The answer is yes you can. You're just shitposting at this point aren't you?
>I admit some small scale scamming is happening on my end, BUT MORE THAN 2 ACCOUNTS? YOU MUST BE CRAZY! WHO COULD POSSIBLY DO THAT?
You need jetpack to cover the distance you're projecting.
But only your own account can buy off your wishlist. try it from another account, then come back with proof. Now stfu scammer.
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Hoping I get this manga. Bless you anons.
That's why we just had 3 threads of people being unable to purchase anything. They were just too dumb to click a button and there was no lock down going on.
You have been called out on your scam. Stop lying.
I contacted Amazon and made my list grinchproof, what stops you from doing the same, again? Let me guess, I'm part of the secret Pajeet Kabal just like Rog "The Initiator OT I." as we call him in our Trilateral Commission meetings, who told Bezos who to help and who to sabotage, close enough?
Use this user as an example if you don't believe me then, he has been grinched. Go to the purchased section, add to cart and then purchase, see for yourself if it works or not
I'm I've been grinched like 8 times but I'm not making my list "grinchproof" because it's only one item.
so essentially i got scammed
Nothing to stop anons from grinchproofing their lists, but pointless when the jannies just delete any posts of lists by anons, & delete their comments saying they got grinched. Go back on all the threads. you'll see.
Maybe. I'm sorry to hear that you did. There's still some secret santas taking members for a 2nd wave. Maybe find one of those?
Yesterday the threads were being moderated but none of the trolls were banned. It was very strange.
Yeah, It's obvious the jannies are biased against the rules & not doing their jobs. See and bans.verniy.xyz
Morning. Just gonna drop my list, hope some anons respond. Had someone gift me overnight.
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>Had someone gift me overnight
You had somone gift you already and you want more gifts? Gtfo hope you get grinched like I have in these threads.
I'm not sure if I was grinched or not yet. It was when we had all the "rich fags".
Getting griched sucks. Don't give up user.
go on livechat with amazon folk and they can find out in less than 5 minutes.
This whole thing needs to be shut down. There is no way to trust any one involved and every list could just be those same scammers.
Don't let this post be buried. We need to spread this image through the read as much as possible.
agh now i worry about how many of the gifts sent were actually to those scammers. As for my list I guess its best to wait until this turmoil settles down
I would estimate 80% of the gifts given were by scammers. Everyone else got locked down within seconds of posting.
Just cancel the order & charge back your credit card. Just call it lesson learned. never give out anything to people on the internet. Especially around the holidays when scammers use the season to take advantage of peoples good will. Only give to a source you know irl. Never on Jow Forums. No begging is in the rules for this very reason. But the jannies willingly took a free job that pays $0, & they are bitter they were stupid enough to fall for it. Now we have to suffer. Don't reward these people for it.
how do they "lock" you though? I thought the only way was by grinching them
I personally wouldnt want the potential 20% of the innocent ones out there to have their day ruined though.
They grinch you knowing you can't get through the Amazon support to fix your accounts. They offer a fake solution to the problem and then keep locking everyone else down. We had people go through 10 tries to get an account fixed and he just got his wishlist deleted.
Those 20% can find a place without scams to do a secret santa. A few boards are doing 2nd wave this week.
>I personally wouldnt want the potential 20%
That's exactly what the scammers are hoping for. Anyone else on here begging just needs to learn to get a job or better manage their money. Or learn to make amends with their family. then they might actually buy them shit during the holidays.
Awful lot of effort for a scammer if this is just 1 or 2 people.
Not saying I believe you, nor am I saying I don't believe you.
There are definitely some people that would take advantage of a situation like this and make multiple links, but I think I should be in the clear here.
I've also gone over all of the gift addresses and they remained consistent, they haven't changed since ordering at least visually.
Just lurking and posting the occasional good vibes until I get my Christmas bonus so I can buy you nice things
We know of at least 3 scammers and Rich fag. The grinching didn't start immediately because they had to build the ponzo scheme up. People had to believe it was a real event because they funneled all the gifts to themselves.
You seem like a good guy but you were played by them. They knew people would return from the last years event and buy things which let them give the impression it was real before the scam started.
Other persons address wouldn't change on your end for privacy reasons.
never underestimate the power of autistic people living in their moms basement who never go outside & socially interact with people.
All you need to set up an amazon account is an email. Amazon doesn't care. They just want people to buy shit from them.
Wow, if this is true I'm kinda bummed. I just wanted to buy some Europoorean anons some gifts to make the holidays a little nicer.
I guess I'll just retire and abstain from gifting.
Thanks for the heads up.
I'm really sorry this happened man. I hope you have a good christmas.
Lets try to stop any one else getting scammed.
cool another robot lives in croydon
Yeah. Only way for this to work without people getting scammed is to have everyone exchange their info, video chat with each other, basically dox themselves to eachother, then buy eachother a gift and leave it at that knowing either one could dox the other at any moment. But since both bought eachother a gift, there should be no reason for that. it would still happen either way even if it was like that, but far more real anons would get gifts, and it would help make sure your not buying a bunch of gifts for the same person when you think it's all different people. But I doubt people would really go for that either. So unless amazon starts doing verified accounts, this will never work as intended & only benefit scammers when done anonymously.
Hohoho
The best way is to have a central contact point who sorts an event. Each person is matched up with another person and sends a gift of a suggested minimum amount. Like the way others boards had been doing.
>Check the person I gifted
>Their name and address is changed on their fucking wishlist is in a totally different state now
scammers got to me, at least it was only like 5 bucks
RIP Mcdonalds combo meal.
Yeah, something like a lottery where two people get matched up & have to buy one thing off each others lists. Also putting a $0-$50 limit on items would make people for more likely to buy shit. Especially on this board full of broke NEETs.
Having a discord server for people to VC or video chat with each other would help a lot. But the OP has not been encouraging that. Why? It would only make it easier for people to assure the person they're gifting to is a real person & not all the same people.
No server just leaves everyone in the dark, & is advantageous for the scammers.
Update on your fishing lure user, it's coming today!
I could set up an e mail for people to send their address and 3 interests to. After a week I will pair up every submission and pass on the address and interest to another robot. Robots could then send a $15 gift (more is okay) to their match.
Would you be interested? I don't want people to be upset over this. I think we can make it work if we hurry.
>willingly doxing yourself for a slim chance for gifts
I think your logic has a few holes in it
The scammers were using a discord to talk to each other. There is no way we can set up a discord and keep them out.
Yeaok 'fellow robot'
/a/ does it this way, so does /tg/ and all of the reddit secret santas. Only your match and me would see your name.
Those boards are fucking stupid. Amazon wishlist can still work. You just want to video chat with the person you are buying for to make sure the accounts all belong to different people. You wouldn't even need to give out your address for it to work. You don't even need to make a server. You would just need to exchange discord tags, then video chat with each other. It wouldn't be perfect, no system would. But it would be better than this obvious ponzi scheme.
That isn't a functional idea. The traditional model works and any damage done via dox is minimal. It's 1 name.
>That isn't a functional idea.
>The traditional model works
Keep trying scammers. This idea obviously is not working. The other terrible model described is one scammer collecting a massive pile of private data on people to use for god knows what later on.
Exchanging discord tags and video chatting Doesn't reveal your address unless you tell that one person. Only thing it can do is help negate the scammers by helping anons verify the lists belong to that person.
>scammers still trying
We have the threads. Even if you grinch us we can just post again.
>send a gift
>transaction doesn't go through and it doesn't appear on my orders
>wait a day
>still isn't on orders and too anxious to call bank
>contact amazon and they can't do anything
>check recipient's list
>the gift isn't there
I don't really know what to do anymore. I hope you anons are having a fun weekend
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You're the user that bought me "Thus Spoke Zarathustra" right? I contacted the amazon pajeets and they confirmed that the payment went through and that the book is coming my way, you can relax my friend, and thank again for the book!
Do not gift any one anything. We have discovered a scammer ring who have been grinching people to get gifts.
>Do not gift any one they maybe a scammer.
I tried to offer a solution that works. Discord is not a good idea. Most people avoid discord these days because it's so easy to track people on it and privacy issues.
Terrible idea. not to mention with one unknown person controlling the whole thing they could just throwaway lists, not pair people up at all, unfairly filter out anons, I could go on. A great idea for a scammer. Terrible idea if you're actually trying to do a real secret santa.
We can forget the idea. It works for other boards, I thought it would work here as well.
>track people on discord
>being this retarded
Unless you work for discord, no one can get your location unless you tell them. How dumb of a scammer are you?
Yes, as long as it is on it's way then it should be there on time. Don't forget to post it in the thread when you get it
Nevermind, the pajeet I spoke to earlier must have fucking lied to me or something. I messaged them again and I got this response from someone actually competent.
Checked the 2 people i gifted
1 had the address changed to a different state.
1 had the name changed from Ross to Rose.
I think I got scammed :(
Explain it to a poojeet and get a refund.
>tfw I used a non-reloadable gift card so that money got pissed away
Oh shit rip moneys
Ross to Rose here too.
Did a succubus trick us into giving her things? I feel terrible. Who would do such a cruel thing?
A succubus, duh.
If it doesn't go through I might cancel it and try again. If you want you can keep the book on the list until I can figure out what's going on