/fraud/ - steroids general

Welcome to /fraud/, the steroids and coping general.

Before asking your stupid beginner questions (yes, they are stupid), make sure to read the r/steroids wiki:

reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/index

>Reddit link
yeah, fuck off

Don't ask us to help you dose your AI. It's very individual.

Oral-only cycles put strain on the liver and cause a shutdown of natural testosterone production for not a lot of benefit. Just pin and thank us later.

No source talk allowed.

This isn't a medical forum. Stop asking for medical advice and go to a doctor.

Don't ask us to help you schedule your pinning dosages. Use steroidcalc.com/

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Previously on jm announces a new trip to the DR

enjoy being poor with your poor negress and getting ringmogged by anyone who isn't poor

hey maybe one day you'll finally buy that car too but I doubt it considering it's been 5 months and you're still not willing to pull the trigger. must suck to be poor.

previously on fraud

anonymous feminists try to shame jm into spending more on a ring, with disappointing results as there is no dissuading this based individual; not even e statin seems to work

>you are smart with your money therefore i am richer than you

great logic, have a nice life

>guy wants to buy awful looking, shitty 40k car exclusively to seduce nigs
>lashes out when he's told it's an awful investment
>"smart with his money"
>won't spend more than 800 euros on a ring for his nig
"based"

How much TUDCA should I take daily for liver protection?

Depends on what you are running

Thought experiment everyone.

Im going to Mexico this week and have the opportunity to load up on supplies. however, I am flying so i cannot bring any back on the plane.

What one week cycle should I take to load up and give me the biggest gainz possible?

Full access to gym, all inclusive (infinite food)

Assume unlimited budget but I only have 1 week to blast as much as I can.

Ive done quite a few cycles so far and don't have bad side effects with tren, deca, dbol, anavar, winstrol. Only bad effects are with Test E (I usually took test cyp

Spending 799€ on a ring for a woman you frequently cheat on, which she knows about, and which encourages you to fuck cheap third world hookers without a condom is not being smart with your money.

Non, tudca is for wimps, let biological
adaption take place and evolve or die.

Blah blah something about Bill gates not wearing designer, blah blah.

none if you aren't actually taking a liver toxic oral. the recommended dosage when running something actually hepatotoxic is 500mg-1g

>1 week cycle

12.5 mg of Asin E3D
Also how long does it take TUDCA to be absorbed by your body

500 for a weak oral, 1k for moderate, 1500 for sdrol or mtren. But I have a weak liver.

Well Asin makes my shit white so I guess I’ll start out with 500mg daily

yeah you don't need tudca lol

STOP TAKING YOUR WHITE MASS GAINER

I haven’t had it in like 2 weeks
Every time I take Asin my shit is white the next day, so it’s 100% that

You aren't cut out for this, just stop. You're going to hurt yourself.

>he doesn’t drive a BMW, isn’t 6’3”, and have an 8” cock.

Cope

>white shit
>from as in

Nigga I have running mtren without liver support and never had this happened, not even jaundice. You either have a weak ass liver or something else is up.

Asin isnt hepatoxic lmao

He's bulking on a mass gainer with white pigments and dyes lol

nah grey/white stool is a common liver failure side, but usually it's one of the last thing that happens before fullblown jaundice. orange/brown pee comes in first for me, then grey stool, then I stop orals before I die

just white stool on its own is super weird though so it's probably not liver failure for testjar (esp considering he's only on asin lmao)

Lmao 47, wished I could go with you for a couple beers and wings

Jaundice and dark urine are some of the side effects of it though
I’ve been out of it for a while
Yeah I haven’t had any of the other things you’ve described which is weird
Can asin affect your gallbladder?

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Pretty much this.
1mg ed mtren gets me some darker piss and greasy stool but that's it.

They have to list all possible sides that people had while in trials. I can assure you given the number of people who’ve taken it for steroids or cancer it is not a common side. You have something seriously wrong with you and should stop whatever you’re taking and get bloods to figure out what’s up.

any kind of oral even if it's not very hepatotoxic has to at least go through the first pass so this very slight liver involvement could cause liver sides such as dark urine, grey stool, jaundice, etc IF you're already doing something very very hepatotoxic, such as binge drinking. like the straw that breaks the camel's back.

however, asin on its own will NEVER do that, EVER. but again, just white stool on its own leads me to believe it's not from the liver as he'd get other sides too. there's something fucked up happening here and I thought it was obviously from the white mass gainer but if he really hasn't used any in 2 weeks then I don't know. something weird is happening with his body.

>You have something seriously wrong with you and should stop whatever you’re taking and get bloods to figure out what’s up.
But this has never happened until I started taking asin. I’ve gotten blood panels before and everything was pretty much fine, although the last full blood panel I got was almost 2 years ago. The only thing I remember being out of range was cholesterol and that was because it was low

What's your diet like?

Does test have to pass through your liver?

the thing is that asin isn't the only thing new in your life, you said you're bulking heavily now so your diet changed, you're lifting now (presumably) and you weren't before, you added 500mg of test, etc. I wouldn't blame the asin but you could stop taking it and see what happens (besides titties ay lmao)

Then drop the asin if you're so sure it's the asin.

I hate to break it to you but you should probably not be doing any kind of drugs without doctor supervision considering you're severely underweight judging by your last images.

You should have at least hit what would be a healthy weight for a human male before you thought about touching any of this stuff.

I mean, you're so underweight the only area you could pin is your ass and even there you had a lot of trouble. God damn.

1 bag of cheddar popcorn
6 waffles with syrup
4 tamales
Gallon of milk
4700 calories total
My shit stopped being white a couple days ago probably since I haven’t taken asin since last Friday. I’ve been eating the above daily so I don’t think it’s my diet otherwise my shit would still be white.

I haven’t taken it in a week and my stool went back to a normal color a couple of days ago

Enjoy your gyno m8

Jfc

>1 bag of cheddar popcorn
>6 waffles with syrup
>4 tamales
>Gallon of milk

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When will I start to feel the effects of high estrogen? I injected 250mg 5 days after my last Asin dose and I’m about to do another 250 today.

I’ve had gyno in my left breast since I was 14, and I lactated once on top of that

First pin of second cycle today.

Probably going to take sdrol for the first time today too. What am I in for?

Jesus please stop posting

Please be joking

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lmao i’m out with my gf to eat and the guy waiter is gay and hitting on me saying my muscles are big and everyone noticed me when I walked in.

it’s always other men who say something

Why does it matter as long as I’m getting calories and protein?

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What steroids do "natties" in ipf run
I dont think in going to do any of that soon (im not strong enough nor do i have genetic potential) but im wondering what are potential health sacrifices if one wants to compete at top level (minus the obvious injuries)

TestJar - do yourself a favor and go see a psychiatrist.

52 weeks of being indispensable to the fed to failure

Any of you know if Atenolol interacts with asin? I take 25mg when I wake up and sometimes 12.5 around 8 hours later

Every time I take actual orals, eventually my shit goes white. But even taking accutane, asin, bp meds and occasionally drinking I have never had liver issues. I thought unless it was actually structurally like an oral roid it didn't stress your liver that much at all?

I already did but it was for ADD

fast esters, peptides,GH, slin, metformin. That's the usual drug testing avoidance shit

i didnt do meal prep and had an intense workout this morning fuck my life im so tired i dont want to cook REEEEEEEEEE

Deliveroo or ubereats bro

Go for IQ this time around.

>stool was brown yesterday
>take a shit a minute ago
>older shit was brown and newer shit was white
Guess I’m taking 500 more mg of tudca today

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Just order some tamales and waffles lmao

Post physique again

Kekekek

How's my post tan arm looking now boys

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This was from when I did my first injection

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DELET THIS

DYEL and old
Like grandads ballsack

I’m trying to stay positive TJ, but this is fucked

livers don't heal that quickly so even if it's the asin it's not from liver failure. is your asin capped, pressed or oral? it's possible that if it's capped the filler could be some kind of white dyed thingy

your shit randomly went from white to black then back to white without taking more asin?

jesus fuck mate

Spooky. You should take some adrol or dbol on top of your 500mg test, get yourself some size boy.

>oral
meant solution derp

spooked every time

does adrol cause gyno like dbol?

i wish i could unsee this you look sickly like an aids patient. what do you look like now? pics?

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>Told my bosses that I'm /frauding/
>They frequently tell me I'm ready for a physique contest if I were to cut
>After hearing that I'm on test E they tell me I need to get serious or not
>Eg; test, deca, for some solid gains, winny and primo to contest prep
>Tell me I just need to compete to see what I'm lacking and can adjust my gear from there
>Looked at North Cali contests and feel like I'd barely surpass Novice physique

Yolo I guess. I love these guys so far. I fucking feel like a DYEL though.

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What job?

Its capped, I think baking soda is used as filler if I remember correctly
>potentially fucking my liver even more

Absolutely dyel. Found a shirt that shows off my gains and is long enough for me.

Got verbally mired by a fat girl on my way back to the train :(

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What kind of source sells capped Asin in baking soda

Do you hang out in men’s toilets often?
Mirin boomer shirt, looks comf af

Was she a horrid fat chick or one win a decent face but could afford to lose a few pounds?

I work with ex-bodybuilders so they're pretty easy going and helpful about the gear

Nah, she was rotund with a pointy face like a rodent.

Only after a tan, give myself a nice wipe down so I don't smell like a tanning booth.

this is fake, you looked less skeletal in the other photo you posted

That’s lucky
I mostly work with ex-cons
They arnt helpful about much

Probably because it was a different angle with different lighting

this is his other pic, they very obviously are the same person

(spoooooooky)

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So, are you a gym secretary or something?

Guy sitting in front of me on the train just randomly gave his girlfriend a wet willy

Wtf

im not buying tj's bullshit

no way you can eat like for weeks and still look like unless you have serious tapeworm issues or your digestive track has collapsed

>This was from when I did my first injection
are you dumb

Cough-fatlifts-cough

God I thought it was only me. That tanning bed smell is weird as shit

Give him one then wink

"Jeder Tren Cycle hat volkstümlich zu sein und ihre Masse einzustellen auf die Ernährung des Beschränktesten unter denen, an die sie sich zu richten gedenkt. Damit wird ihre rein massige Höhe um so tiefer zu stellen sein, je größer die zu erfassende Masse des Menschen sein soll. Handelt es sich aber, wie bei dem Tren Cycle für die Vorbereitung eines Comp Preps, darum, einen ganzen Körper in den Wirkungskreis zu ziehen, so kann die Vorsicht bei der Vermeidung zu hoher geistiger Voraussetzungen gar nicht groß genug sein"
- "Meine Gains" - M. Alfred Ster

Could I do just a short 3 week cycle of tren or something for permanent voice and face gains? Would it permanently fuck my hormone levels? I just want to be more masculine but not be permanently dependent on drugs.

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>implying he didn't start eating more before pinning
his stomach looks like it can barely take 500 calories worth of food in that photo and this was just 3ish weeks ago
he didn't just build up a stomach that can handle several pounds of in a few weeks

Basically, I just clean up for an hour then work out for the rest of my shift. They want me to compete so they tell me to bring my food and supps and do whatever the fuck I need as long as it's productive towards lifting and keeping the gym tidy.

he did not. he wasn't even lifting before starting the test.

>getting off train
>older black man in aisle next to mine gets up
>looks at me while nodding of approval and smiling
>asks "so are you a bodybuilder or some shit"

Thanks for reading my blog post.

that literally does not matter when you are juicing. speaking from experience. this guy is fucked. he must have some health issues he looks anorexic and hes talking about how his shits white wtf.

test jar post a pic of what you look like now

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did he suck you off after

I had a friend many years ago in college that did a similar type of job. One night he went to the steam room some time near closing time and stayed for a while. He walks out of the bathroom and hears some faint moaning sounds so he goes to see what's up. He catches the gym owner fucking the Asian girl, that greets people as they enter the gym, in the ass through the window of his office. He did not quit.

No, he was actually kind of annoying and was asking too many questions about bodybuilding.

Guys, I live in China and can fairly easily get my hands on gear I think. What is a very mild stack to take when first starting out?

Good thing I'm not an asian girl.

I'm about ready to fuck the asian girls that walk into our gym desu. It's in the middle of a college town so more for us. kek

Is your vagina bleeding too?
Is this your first time on public transport lmao. Do not talk to those people.

Never gonna make it

I use it quite often. They generally just look and don't say anything. They also try their best to not sit next to me and just stand and stare at the seat instead.

Now that I think about the only people that ever sit next to me on the train are white women. This must be God's doing.