The Misconception of a "Incel"

already can see so many flaws in those pics.

>feminists

already lumping women with feminsm in the first seconds. how do i know that your a subhuman amerimutt? only you retarded fat beta males come up with it in the first place.

>b-but why does it w-work w-when w-wemen do it but b-but not w-when we d-d-d-o it?

because you are a different gender. you need as a MALE to come off as someone who can protect their counterpart. being nice is a submissive behaviour. it works when female do it because its submissive and cute. those two traits are a female trait. and its a good thing. being charismatic, funny and taking care of urself by being Jow Forums gives you an aura of security and makes you look like you are in control of yourself. stop with this virgin shit. whoever wrote that is a pathetic loser in the first place. a REAL MALE doesnt have excuses. he does things, it works or doesnt. he doesnt complain nor begin to hate. you guys should really stop running in this pathetic hate treadmill against women.

Notice how you're posting on Jow Forums. Notice how it's only normalfag shitheads who have a problem with what's posted here. Notice how it's only butthurt slut roasties or numale beta cucks who post drivel like the OP.

Exactly!
Just admit you want to be beaten down like a dirty slut and choke on my cock.
Show me your tits.

I'm not trying to prove something by posting some anonymous post.

see, learned literally nothing. stay alone forever, kid.

Your gender role are obsolete

>because you are a different gender. you need as a MALE to come off as someone who can protect their counterpart.
And you're a woman. You need to be submissive and not talk back like the modern useless slut you are. You have to cook, clean, and take care of kids. But you don't see women do that today, do you? You're useless walking holes who only know tinder and fucking Chad. You brainwash men and shame them for being masculine. You start petty and cunty campaigns and protests over mundane shit like "manspreading". Why would anyone behave like a man and break their back over whores like you? You want men to be men again? Then start acting like a woman. You created all these problems yourself yet you cunts have the nerve to complain about them.

>Your gender role are obsolete

there where you are wrong, bucko. millions years of evolution wont be undone in sole 30 years.

Of course you are!
OP posted how the usual "nice guy" approach to dating is bad and a misconception.
Other user posted those two images as counterpoints,you simply said nope.

You most definitly are trying to prove something simply by participating in this thread.And you are doing a really bad job at it.

its not evolution, evolutionary psychology isn't real and there are actual cultures that exist that do not do what you're talking about.
The ACTUAL evidence is against what you're saying, you have untestable theories. I care too much about science and data and testable results to allow myself to fall into the trap of believing fake theories.

>"manspreading"

literally no one cares.

>You brainwash men and shame them for being masculine

only weak men let themselves get "brainwashed" and only mutts are obsessed with this.

>Why would anyone behave like a man and break their back over whores like you?

then dont break your back if u know shes a whore? go for a real woman? are you retarded or something? no one is forcing you.

>You want men to be men again? Then start acting like a woman. You created all these problems yourself yet you cunts have the nerve to complain about them.

strawmanning and blaming others. you are going nowhere with this attitude.

OP here, my response to the imagines literally wrong. most of what i said happens subconsciously.

why should i force myself to change radically just for a woman

i'd rather just be happy by myself. dating sounds like a lot of work for a lot of nothing.

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>literally wrong. most of what i said happens subconsciously.
then why would we see massive differences in different populations, and also differences in people within our own culture and population?

>only weak men let themselves get "brainwashed" and only mutts are obsessed with this
Oh yeah, it's totally men's fault for constantly being berated and shamed. Young boys should totally be able to ignore all the anti-male sentiment by their parents, the schools, the media while they're impressionable and growing.
>then dont break your back if u know shes a whore? go for a real woman? are you retarded or something? no one is forcing you
You're all whores and you all behave like this. Hence why men are fucking off and not acting masculine anymore.
>strawmanning and blaming others. you are going nowhere with this attitude.
It literally is your fault. You think men suddenly decided that being meek nice guys is going to work? After years of traditional masculinity said otherwise? No, you cunts neutered men and started a war on masculinity, and now you see the result.

>first sentence is massive generalization that has nothing to do with the definition of the term involuntarily celibate
Try again tomorrow.

>why should i force myself to change radically just for a woman
another misconception. you should improve for your own good. those things are just benefits of what you improved on. never do things for women. do it for youself. the emotional aspect is if your charismatic and funny guy you will get better along with your friends or boss at work. think it as if ur palying fallout and max speccing charisma. its not only about women. this is a side benefit. throw women from the pedestal. you need YOURSELF on the pedestal.

>then why would we see massive differences in different populations, and also differences in people within our own culture and population?

you are talking about different behaviour in culture. what im talking about happens subconciously. if ur charismatic and funny in any other culture, you will have the same effect and reaction.

>Oh yeah, it's totally men's fault for constantly being berated and shamed. Young boys should totally be able to ignore all the anti-male sentiment by their parents, the schools, the media while they're impressionable and growing.

you sound like a broken record made by Jow Forums.
like i said you are weak to begin with if you are getting influenced by "media" or "anti male sentiments" maybe this is just a amerimutt thing but i never experienced or saw something like this.

>You're all whores and you all behave like this. Hence why men are fucking off and not acting masculine anymore.

already generalizing every women.

>men are fucking off and not acting masculine anymore.

thats only in your head. you want this to be true. but fact remains that men are still having sex and are in relationships. you need to stop this victim complex. you sound like a literal nigger. "MUH SLAVERY" "MUH SUPRESSION"

>It literally is your fault.

no it isnt.

>You think men suddenly decided that being meek nice guys is going to work? After years of traditional masculinity said otherwise? No, you cunts neutered men and started a war on masculinity, and now you see the result.

this is literally all in your head. the only thing that happened is that fathers never teaches his son how to behave. this behaviour of being nice is teached by your mother. "be nice to women". the fault starts at the parents, but you still can make a difference instead of being a slave of your own education and conditioning.

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really, really insightful op, i'm sure you're the first to make this astute observation

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You failed to actually address the arguments in those screencaps.

The second is actually from krautchan you newfag.

>You failed to actually address the arguments in those screencaps.

my discussion is about women, not feminists. normal women doenst care about that shit. and also i did indirectly adress it. here >another misconception. you should improve for your own good. those things are just benefits of what you improved on. never do things for women. do it for youself. the emotional aspect is if your charismatic and funny guy you will get better along with your friends or boss at work. think it as if ur palying fallout and max speccing charisma. its not only about women. this is a side benefit. throw women from the pedestal. you need YOURSELF on the pedestal.

if u change because a feminist said so you are just weak. rethink life.

>addressed the issues that make those arguments fundamentally stupid to make.
Dipshit, if one of your premises is fucked, what's the point of debating your conclusion?
>still using anonymous basket weaving sites as the absolute authority
lol
>Oh yeah, it's totally men's fault for constantly being berated and shamed.
>Young boys should totally be able to ignore all the anti-male sentiment by their parents, the schools, the media while they're impressionable and growing.
Oh, this actually raises a good point. young boys kind of get shafted in terms of gaining emotional intelligence, and men similarly lacking it will feel personally attacked, but ultimately that's an issue on your(males) end.
Grow up maybe? Emotions aren't even that hard to understand, women make it sound harder than it is.

Are you just too stupid to understand what the texts in the screencaps are about? Because your ramblings barely touch the issue.

>like i said you are weak to begin with if you are getting influenced by "media" or "anti male sentiments" maybe this is just a amerimutt thing but i never experienced or saw something like this.
A young boy who's impressionable who doesn't know any better is weak for falling for constant brainwashing? You fucking roasties are insane. You always say men shouldn't this shouldn't that blah blah, but then you hate it when they actually do behave the way you want. Your gaslighting and shit tests ruins people's lives.
>already generalizing every women.
Don't act like that then.
>thats only in your head. you want this to be true. but fact remains that men are still having sex and are in relationships. you need to stop this victim complex. you sound like a literal nigger. "MUH SLAVERY" "MUH SUPRESSION"
It's pretty clear that men are less masculine. That's why nice guys exist in the first place and why you're complaining about them.
>this is literally all in your head. the only thing that happened is that fathers never teaches his son how to behave. this behaviour of being nice is teached by your mother. "be nice to women"
Exactly, you literally just admitted it's the women who do this. But you just keep saying hurr durr you should be able to ignore everything you were taught.

first one is about feminism rambling. i dont care about that. swept through and i saw atleast 10 times the word feminism. u can discard that.

second pic is you men dug yourself into this. women think this way now because there are men who EXPECTS to get laid by being nice. no such thing, kid. you have to offer more than just being nice. no need to add more to that.

Ok, you indeed don't understand it.

>. You always say men shouldn't this shouldn't that blah blah, but then you hate it when they actually do behave the way you want. Your gaslighting and shit tests ruins people's lives.

you have been saying this for 5 posts now. and i will say it 5 more times. its your own fault for being so insecure and weak and actually change for a roastie.

>It's pretty clear that men are less masculine. That's why nice guys exist in the first place and why you're complaining about them.

so u agree with me that being nice is NOT a masculine trait, huh? why you still blame women if u dont act masculine? you know that it doesnt get you anywhere, but keep blaming? wanna improve or change?

>Exactly, you literally just admitted it's the women who do this. But you just keep saying hurr durr you should be able to ignore everything you were taught.

your mother doesnt do it out of hate for men. you want to make it sound that way but it isnt. the problem is you take the phrase "be nice to women" TOO literally. every men who got told ended up being too nice took it TOO literally.

>But you just keep saying hurr durr you should be able to ignore everything you were taught.

its called improve upon. not ignore.

Both fundamentally are "Women don't care about my feelings WHY???? They're DUMB CUNTS"
Like, I understand the frustration and annoyance, but it's not my fault you're emotionally inept dude, and don't see the big issue with your logic.

>you need as a MALE to come off as someone who can protect their counterpart.
This may be what women ACTUALLY want, but the point is they PRETEND they dont want it. Theyre the ones sowing confusion.

>you are talking about different behaviour in culture. what im talking about happens subconciously. if ur charismatic and funny in any other culture, you will have the same effect and reaction.
oh yes I misunderstood, yea I agree with you

>Both fundamentally are "Women don't care about my feelings WHY???? They're DUMB CUNTS"
No. Are you functionally illiterate?

>Incels act nice to woman to get something out of them.
This is literally normal human interaction.
The only reason you don't like incels doing it because they are males lower on the hierarchy so you can shit on them without consequence.

Do you get mad at corporate leaders using dinners as an excuse to close deals and make connections?

>emotionally unstable men cannot provide a sense of protection without muscle
>mentally fucked men can fake the ability to protect by just being stacked
>mentally fucked men who can't get ripped complain because them being emotionally retarded, weak willed, and self-centered
This is the cycle of inceldom.
>fitcels are peak inceldom, missing the issue entirely, and are still the same people
rip, you'll die alone because you hate yourself.
If it makes you feel any better, I know you're intelligent, I don't think you're a bad person, and I forgive you.

>but the point is they PRETEND they dont want it. Theyre the ones sowing confusion.

yeah, and? let them pretend? why are you confused if u know they are pretending? i dont understand why are you so mad about it. they dont have to tell you this. you are the male not the females. of course they dont know how you should behave when they are female.

>i dont understand why are you so mad about dishonest behavior meant to rationalize female disdain, and even hatred for, sub-Chad males
I bet you dont understand a whole lot do you

>treating sex like a literal deal
>treating romance like a literal deal
>treating love like a literal deal
E M O T I O N A L L Y I L L I T E R A T E
>Both fundamentally are "Women don't care about my feelings WHY???? They're DUMB CUNTS"
Stop acting retarded.

All 3 of those things are literally deals/negotiations.

>acts like EVERY women thinks like that
>there is no such thing as "they dont know themselves"
>they must be dishonest with ill intent

nor do you.

>>they must be dishonest with ill intent
When you repeatedly reject and belittle the men you yourself claim to be attracted to, and date and fuck the men you claim not to be attracted to, yes, I am going to assume you know your bullshit is just bullshit.

No they aren't Timmy, funny enough when we exist in a world of real tangible people, treating people like logical problems only shows that you are emotionally illiterate. We all live in a the real world, unlike the one in your head, we ALL occupy this one.
Philosophy like this is fucking retarded because it's just all thought experiment, live dammit, get out of your own head for once, grow up.

>hurr muh real world!!!!
Not an argument

>roast can't refute logical arguments
>"It's too rational! What about muh emotions???"

Kek, get fucked

>yes, I am going to assume you know your bullshit is just bullshit.
>I am going to assume

i rest my case.

>When you repeatedly reject and belittle the men you yourself claim to be attracted to, and date and fuck the men you claim not to be attracted to

>this MUST mean they have ill intent
>it doesnt mean that women are confused themselves what they like about men.

let me just say one thing. women are just as confused as men when it comes to preference.

>you have been saying this for 5 posts now. and i will say it 5 more times. its your own fault for being so insecure and weak and actually change for a roastie.
And I'll say it again. You roasties always tell men to act a certain way but then YOU DON'T ACTUALLY LIKE IT WHEN IT HAPPENS. Then you play the "hurr you shouldn't have been so weak" card and blame the victim for doing what you wanted. Do you not see how that is complete gaslighting? Why are you saying this stuff in the first place if that's not actually what you want? We're not fucking mind readers. Imagine you were told your entire life that being feminine is what men wanted. But then you find out that was a lie and all the men said "you should have known better". Wouldn't you be supremely pissed off that you were lied to? That you were lead on and given false hope, and then blamed for it?
>so u agree with me that being nice is NOT a masculine trait, huh? why you still blame women if u dont act masculine? you know that it doesnt get you anywhere, but keep blaming? wanna improve or change?
This isn't about improving, this is calling out your hypocrisy. You claim you want nicer guys who treat you well and nice guys are created as a result. Then you say they're all creeps and complain. It's your own fault.
>your mother doesnt do it out of hate for men. you want to make it sound that way but it isnt. the problem is you take the phrase "be nice to women" TOO literally. every men who got told ended up being too nice took it TOO literally.
Again, blaming the victim. You tell them to do something, then when they actually do it, you say "THAT'S NOT WHAT I ACTUALLY MEANT". Make up your fucking minds and be more clear then. You can't make up your goddamn minds and always send out these mixed signals.

I actively avoid women. Does that make me an incel?

There's no argument to be had, your premises are all stupid, your arguments are all worthless conjecture or false equivalency, or alternatively you take any criticism of YOUR stance as an attack on you and a pro-stance for "the opposition".
You lack the emotional intelligence to even have an argument user, you're just flailing like a fish out of water, and I'm telling you that in order to stop that flailing you need to man up and realize that posturing about how "real" everything isn't gonna change jack shit.
You aren't deep, but you are smart. Act like it.

Tldr. Get a girlfriend you virgin

>Then you say
>You roasties
>you people
>Then you
>your hypocrisy
>you say

WHO IS YOU. 1 WOMAN doesnt represent every women. 10 women doesnt either. every women represents themselves. stop with the "you people". no one is expecting YOU to behave a certain way. this is literally everything in your head. literally rent free.

>sub 80 IQ misses the point

expect nothing less.

>Guys, logically, hands aren't even real! They aren't LOGICALLY usefull! I'm so much better at arguing!
Denying the importance of emotions is just showing your 13yo understanding of the human condition and philosophy in general, and the effect emotions have on the way you think, so yes, it's completely a fair point to make.

Nobody denies emotions, it's just that you used them as a buzzword to brush aside arguments you don't like but can't refute

was meant for him

>Nobody is denying emotion
>Love is literally a deal
Please try again, you're contradicting yourself.

>Love is literally a deal

That was just what you read out of it in an attempt at strawmaning

You're really throwing these words around like you're some kind of argumentative genius, but its's fine that you aren't dude.
Just, take the L?
It's fine, I know you're not a bad person or stupid, stop acting like it.

If women represent themselves why are you speaking for women in this thread? Why are you so assblasted over nice guys and speaking as though every woman hates them. And why are trying to insult these people if you don't want them to change their behavior? Maybe there are women who DO like nice guys, who feel like they DO owe men. This is nothing but your own opinion and you try to pass it off like women everywhere share it.

>SHE DOESNT OWN YOU ANYTHING.

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>chad's nice to a girl
>fills her up with seven buckets of warm cum inside her bellly
>incel is nice to a girl
>get rejected and called entitled

FUCK THOSE UGLY NERDS EPIC LOL WIN WIN TFW CHAD IS EPIC NERDY GEEK LOSERS DESERVE TO DIE I LOVE CHAD CHAD IS AWESOME YOU"RE JUST NOTHING HAHAHAHAHAHHAA

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This is old as fuck why are people still talking about nice guys? We get the message women want bad boys that treat them like shit.

>Respect women! Listen and believe!
>Also, stop being nice to women!

Well, which is it cunt? I'm fine with the second, but then don't fucking cry about muh soggy knee.

First one is a shit test. They all wanted to be treated like garbage. You should've known that all on your own despite constantly being told otherwise, sweaty :)

shit test..... THIS

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Emotional intelligence has nothing to do with the validity of an argument you faggot.

>ignores first sentence
I mean, you've gotta try harder than that.

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>already lumping women with feminsm in the first seconds
It's not, but whatever.

>misconception of incel
>proceeds to misconceive and build a strawman incel

Im not nice to women because I want peace, not their affections. Women do not create peace, they disrupt the world. Why would I be nice to the agents of chaos?

You are retarded if your think someone is ever nice for you for free
> SHE DOESNT OWN YOU ANYTHING
Then I do not owe her respect or friendliness either.

Why can't you faggots just leave this board and go back to /b/.

Ruining this board lol.

based and redpilled 10/10

>guys are only nice because they want sex i hate them
>Oh my god why are guys assholes
Not a day goes by that i don't think about murdering femals

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