Hey guys, I need advise.
I started gyming because I was bullied, however, I've found out that there's a boxing club near me and I've signed up and now train there, I can't make time for gym anymore and eating 3000+ calories everyday was quite expensive. Is it fine to give up gym?
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Yes....eventually you'll realize huge muscles doen't mean shit against people with actual fighting skills. Just do your strength conditioning at your boxing gym like the other boxers.
Do both, faggot
>huge muscles doen't mean shit
but that's not true
size and strength is incredibly useful and most onions 150lb bjj fags won't be able to do much against a 200lb+ man who can squat 500lbs
You also punch harder and take harder hits when you're bigger and stronger
It's also a great deterrent
Don't get me wrong I'm not saying of equal size and strength a trained fighter wouldn't maul somebody untrained, but let's not pretend being a big buy isn't a huge advantage
Strength training 2x a week and continue with your boxing training.
Increase caloric intake with more oats and rice. They're cheap as fuck
TMT baby.
go cope somewhere else, op is talking about boxing and being a juiced up balloon is bad for striking
This is the truely redpilled way
>Mike Tyson
>Anthony Joshua
>literally every heavyweight ever
It all depends on whether OP wants to compete. If he wants to compete then I'd say focus only on boxing and do whatever the coach advises him. The bigger your muscles are, the bigger you and and so you'll end up having to fight some monsters. It's one of the reasons why I a terrified to compete. At close to 100kg with too much practical muscle for boxing, I'm looking at having to fight 6'3 - 6'5 guys with a significant reach advantage.
If he just wants to learn boxing as part of an overall programme for overcoming the fact that he was bullied, then I would say that you're right, and that he should to go the gym as well.
You think a 150 pound Jiu Jitsu ace can't choke out a 220 pound meathead just because he can deadlift 550? LOL.
wanna know why strength athlete's dont train MMA? Becaues they don't need too...think about it, nobody is going to fuck with a 220lb meathead.
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ur the fat dude LMAO
150lb BJJ black belt vs a 250lb roided out of his mind pro bber.
yes, strength is a very useful general trait. In fact one of the most useful and trainable traits. Yes, big muscles generally mean very strong. But people like you who have never grappled before have no idea the gap in competence between your generalized strength and their finely honed and tested technique. Its gargantuan. You might be able to smash a few cocky white belts sure. A black belt would choke you out in front of all your friends like this guy and leave you with a permanently damaged ego.
Both
Learn to fight while still being a weight lifting roid monkey.
What sort of routine would you run twice a week?
531
monday - squat, bench, 100 pullups
friday - ohp, deadlift, 100 dumbell rows
Keep going to boxing and start training calisthenics
How would you do progression in that routine? And the 100s, in how many sets is that or what's the deal?
Because they’d get their shit kicked in
Russian mma fighter vs. powerlifter.jpeg
Slightly off-topic, but are frequent knuckle pushups bad for you? I heard they might damage nerves or some shit like that.
To be fair both people you mentioned were roiding like a motherfucker
>size and strength is incredibly useful and most onions 150lb bjj fags won't be able to do much against a 200lb+ man who can squat 500lbs
>You also punch harder and take harder hits when you're bigger and stronger
Nope.
You can punch significantly harder with strength gains though. Maybe not as big an increase as getting proper usage of the hips and legs, but you can definitely hit harder
It's a tough one bro. I mean you want both, but boxing fries your CNS heavy, and is intense cardio so you need to eat a lot.
You can't concentrate on both effectively at the start, no fucking way, your body can't handle it. I would just box at the beginning for some months and do calisthenics, and then if you really need that you need some size, drop the boxing to 1-2 times a week and start lifting more. And then when you are at the desired size, drop the lifting to 1x a week and just try to maintain.
What I run
A) Dead 3x5/ pullups 3 x failure
B) Clean + Press 3x3/ pylo pushups to failure
C) Front squat 3x5 + hanging leg raises x 3 + Russian twists x 3
ABCXABC
Do them before or after you box, depending if you value strength or conditioning more.
Why do rows though, deadlift targets lower back, pullups target upper back
I'm a bjj white belt with a bw of 190lbs and I regularly tap new guys that are 230+
Same goes for kickboxing - I'm a terrible striker but I can dance circles around people who have never learned good form or footwork regardless of how much size they have on me
All that said, if I'm going against someone of equal skill that has that same size advantage, then I'm in trouble
Fact: being buff helps in fights if you are good at fighting and have ideal technique.
Look at mike tyson. Dude was a literal tank yet fought like he weighed nothing.
Strong thick legs mean better grappling and wrestling and more muscle lets you hit harder because you weigh more.
>more muscle lets you hit harder because you weigh more.
Small clarification, but more muscle let’s you hit harder due to the ability to exert more force. I’d rather get hit by a 300 lbs fatass than a 200 lbs muscled dude
It is a combination. Similar to how a strong man can rep 135lbs on bench press very fast like it isn't even there, when he does a swing, he will be, just generally speaking, accelerating his arm faster coupled with his bodyweight.
Yes, most big guys don't know shit about fighting and will lose to smaller guys who know about fighting, but being muscular and athletic while training can only help you if you have ample cardio. A lot of UFC heavy weights are buff as fuck.
Oh no, I agree that muscles are very beneficial for a fight, I’m just disagreeing with the concept that muscle is there to make you heavier, when it’s more important in terms of force generation than in terms of just mass. You don’t put on muscle to weigh more, you put on muscle to generate more acceleration and force. The weights a tertiary benefit
The guy’s clearly untrained and all the punches did nothing to him, while the twin raced from every slow ass tap by the fatass.
If you trained the fatty for 2-6 months, he’d absolutely ruin him.
You should ideally put on muscle for both.
Weight advantage is a real thing and if that weight is from muscle, you get the benefit of more weight plus better force generation.
I want to be heavy for my height but not be fat so I can have increased advantage in shoving, kicking, striking, and just being harder to move when on the ground.
absolutely mogged
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