On dating sites, what should be the first message i send them? Or first two messages?

>Have you ever considered that he might be better looking than you guys?
If he was good-looking he wouldn't be looking for dating advice on a Sri Lankan Texas Hold 'Em forum

I look average but i have bad social skills

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>I look average
Yeah, not good enough if you're a dude. Don't know where you've been but this is 2018.

I mean, it's not like being a crab in a bucket will get you a girl either. I went through the same shit you did, but it's retarded to tell anonymous posters on the internet not to do something just because you couldn't hack it.

You're in Jow Forums, the most broaken place on net. If you need to ask us help, you're fucked.

>I mean, it's not like being a crab in a bucket will get you a girl either.
Just being brutally honest. If you're not in the top 20% of men you can either give up or settle for a bottom-tier woman who doesn't really want to be with you.

Well I hope you're not brutally honest with the women.

There're other ways, but he will not want it.

No, I've given up on women because I'm not Chad.

What ways? I want to know

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You can become a monk.
You can enter a very religous comunity and marry with a religious girl.
You can become a weirdo and pay whores.
You can get rich and have a tropie wife.

I'm trying to become chad desu. I've come to realize that I have the power to change things about myself that I thought were immutable. That's cool though, you can quit. Whatever helps you sleep at night. I'm the last one able to carry on my unique family name, so I don't really have the option of quitting.

You can't become a chad, either you're born a chad or you are bot a beta.

>muh family name
These are the kind of spooks you have to let go of to achieve true happiness. Chads are born, not made. Women can spot a fake from a mile away.

What great attitudes you guys have. I can't believe women don't want to date you.

Why do you people always mix up cause and effect?

I'm married, being hopeful like a little kid won't help you.

>I'm married
How'd you meet her?

If those girls existed in the first place they would find a suitable man in a week. If you found one, you would have to compete with series of other guys texting her the same shit to get her attention. Dating websites are pure shit for average looking males, you have better chances by going out or any other thing like Steam or some other dumb shit. An enviroment designed for dating will always result in shit rat race that doesnt even justify the means to go through.

In a very religious community, in the small town I live. I met her st. jonh party and had a 3 years relationship before marring and having sex.

Not gonna lie to you my man, most religious dudes that I've met have been boring tools. I'm glad you found a boring female to settle down with though.

>Boring female
Maybe because your head is full of movies and fake expectatives you're alone. Have you ever entered a religous comunity or just talked to some "christian well behaved" guys on scholls?

Let me guess, you're from a protestant country, that's why they are boring as fuck. Don't be a boring moron is a sin to american religous people.

'Do you believe in our lord and savior Jesus Christ?'

>I'm the last one able to carry on my unique family name, so I don't really have the option of quitting.
What fucking stupid reason. This is the same logic of "Be proud to die for your country m8" shit that people put in their minds to get tricked by the goverment to do their dirty work. Atleast yours isnt as stupid. But if that's the reason that is making you change yourself to get a gf i will right off tell you that you will no be really that happy to begin with. Part of your "hunt" is just for group morality reasons and to get validation from others. Be your true self (personality wise) and try to find a girl that best suits you. And not a girl that best suits the mask of a personality you are trying to force to be. So dont force yourself to do stuff that isnt representative of yourself. You will end up much happier, either alone or not.
Example: If you dont like to go to clubs, then dont go to clubs looking for women to meet, try to find women that also dont enjoy that same kind of stuff.

>Be yourself, don't follow antiquated rules, do whatever you want

>boring female
Its not like other people are diferent though.
Your notion of boring is relative, so its of no use trying to use that symbolism.
I also find people that take religion seriously boring, but i the kind of people that only think of going to parties, drinking, listening to top 50 music with humble rap artists, and that are seeing all the marvel movies and obessing in social media just arent that much diferent, if worse.

>Literally cant name a single flaw, so will just greentext a very broad summary of what he said to try to sound like i have reason.

The absolute state of the argument.

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And am I wrong? lol

OP I think I just met the girl of my dreams on one of these sites, we've been chatting non stop and we're meeting up this weekend.

In all honesty I don't think the first message is all too important, yeah you should at least come across as down to earth. I'd go for something like "Hey X, how's your weekend/week been so far?" and then mention something on their profile. The girl I'm talking to mentioned she had a pet cat so I just asked about the cat.

The ultimate redpill is a girl will talk to you regardless of how you open if she wants to, your first message won't change her mind massively.

>And am I wrong
Not really, there is no simple single truth in this case.
I presented to you what i found to be my best way of living on that subject.
Its not that im telling you to be a lazy fat piece of shit that goes about his instincts. I was more or less telling you to improve yourself and do the stuff you like but staying true to your personality. Tell me whats wrong with that?

On the other hand the "muh family name" thing is simply absurd. Even if you take it seriously, with a bit of logic you will see that your family name will eventually die and change in the future, like any other name and its an absurd social consturct that had some importance in tribal and early civilised ages.