5x5

I know this has become a meme at this point, but I'm new here and I genuinely want to know. Why is 5x5 (the fitness app) a bad workout regiment? I added barbell curls into it. What do you guys think I should be doing instead?

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SS+GOMAD

I think it's fine. If you stick with it for a while, it will build the habit of going to the gym and lifting things. That's more than 90% of people will ever do, app or no. Don't be slavish with it, but if that's what gets you to the gym three times a week lifting progressively heavier things, you're going to get stronger.

5x5 gets exhausted quicker than 3x5

>regiment
dumbass!

Should I just switch to 3x5 instead but keep the same system?

is there any noted difference between going 3x5 and 5x5?

do 5 sets and increase the weight when you get 5 reps in the first 3 sets

I did 5x5 for 1 year all together. I took breaks here and there to experiment with other lifting programs. 5x5 is a good way for a beginner to gain confidence and lift some heavy weight. Trust me, you are going to be a better weightlifter or perhaps bodybuilder if you do 5x5 for a year. Also, it is not boring since you regularly have new records. I recommend

Exhaust your LP.
Unironically read SS

5x5 is great because you only need to get the hang of five lifts.

you can cut out the bicep curls. i know you want bigger arms and shit but your babby curls arent doing anything to add on to what your compounds are getting you for arm gains.

the biggest upside to 5x5 is your program is so straight forward you can spend your time dialing in your diet instead of trying to figure out some retarded routine.

Do 5x12 benches, 5x8 everything else, youll look and feel great in no time, dont listen to stupid 5x5 shit, its for high schoolers

don't listen to this guy about the curls. 5x5 doesn't hit biceps at all.

That's what I've noticed. My brother, more or less, has been doing a 5x5 system for a long time. He does 3pl8 squats and >400lbs deadlifts, but his biceps aren't very big. He started adding in barbell curls and he said its a good thing.

Yeah, ok. Fine.
Add curls when you can rep out weighted pull ups. Swinging 20lb or less dumbells around at the elbow is just gonna waste your time. The back can take a lot of volume. More than the biceps can at least at first

Chin ups (Palms facing you) do hit biceps you mong.

5x5 is a good program

Unironically this if you have fitness background like sports. If you've never lifted or done anything too physical probably start 5x5. I only say this because 5x8-12 can feel like a lot

Is that 5 sets of 12 reps or 12 sets of 5 reps?

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Chin ups isn't part of 5x5 retard. That's an accessory.

fuck i just want to put my hands round her waist and throw her around

because the average person doesn't actually stick to a 5*5 or 3*5 because no one can successfully add 5 pounds every workout or everyweek for a perfect 3 or 5 sets of 5.

I do 5x5, but I added a few accessories. I think it's a good workout.

After every workout I do Face Pulls and Landmine twists. On bench days I do cable flys as well.

On rest days I have a pull up bar at home and I try to do at least 3 sets to failure of chin ups to hit biceps.

Best to have a 5*5 with the first two sets being warm up or ramping sets. For example say your goal is to squat 200 pounds. Start with one set of 5 at 135, then another set of 5 at 185. Then do your final three sets of at 200.

I do 12x5 or 10x5.

It works great.

>Quad 4s holy shit checked
He said the five lifts, one of which is chins. Keep up

Yes they can.

You only add weight when you've hit the full 5x5 for a lift the previous workout, otherwise you stay at the same weight or deload 10% if it's been 3 workouts in a row. Once you need to deload twice you change to 3x5, deload and 3x3, deload and 1x3, then change to a different program. That entire progression is supposed to be lke 6 months so probably the 5x5 part is maybe what, 2-3 months at most if you start with the bar?

appreciate the check but read the posts again. nobody mentions anything about chin ups.

And no, the five lifts of 5x5 are Squat, Bench, Deadlift, OHP and Barbell Row.

Mehdi is an dumbass, and SL is horrendously imbalanced towards pushing, when most beginners would benefit from much more pulling to fix their posture.

Holy shit, the trips too.

Eh, my bad. Turns out I'm wrong, womp womp.

if you add hyperextensions and facepulls you probably get enough pulling. Barbell row is emphasized as much as bench in SL.

You're still doing 2-1 upper body pushing volume with the OHP sets. And then there's the 10-1 ratio of lower body pushing to pulling.

>just add some pulling assistance
I agree, but that's not The Program (tm) - and I'm talking about The Program (tm) specifically.

How about supinated grip on the rows?

This is pretty much what starting strength prescribes, you idiot. When anyone says 3*5 or 5*5, they are referring to work sets, not warmup sets. You are clearly not experienced enough to give advice on this board, please lurk more.
On a side note, even if you have 5 reps in to your work set it is often better to limit the volume of your final warm up sets to ensure that you have enough energy for your work sets. Eg. If you are squatting 315 for 3*5 and your final warm up set involves squatting 275 only 2 or 3 reps are necessary, and will mean that you have more energy left for your work set.