/fraud/ - steroids general

Looking way better shaven. Consider laser.

He’s a firmer fatass.

>Consider laser.
I already had like 10-11 laser sessions. I stopped going because they were just a waste of money at this point. Lmao

Is it worth cycling on a zero carb (mostly meat) diet?
I've been considering running a 350-500mg test prop cycle 1st time for 12 weeks, doing that or steak and eggs diet

how long have you been training before hopping on the roids?

So I‘ve decided dating a guy and I found out he‘s on steroidd, I love him and his body but I‘m worried about possible healthconsequences and if there is something he could infect me with, when we have sex. Any advice?

Why do u have stretch marks on your stomach

faggot

This makes no sense. You will never get shredded this way.

I am going to start next week. I am Fcking done being fat.

With your logic you will never get shredded. Watch me blow everyone out of the fckin planet in 2 months

Who the fuck are you? Post body or fuck off.

retard, I asked because I'm interested in how long has he trained before deciding to start roiding

Im asking why the fuck you are tripping in /fraud/ if you haven't even posted your body you absolute fucking brainlet.

I WANT TEST E RIGHT FUCKING NOW

Attached: test_e_250mg_price.jpg (1080x415, 39K)

7 years. Been on for about 1.5 years now.

Waited so mostly because I was in college and didn't have time to manage all the crap and then had a job that did bimonthly random full panel drug testing that included steroids.

and what about it?

I've never actually posted shit in /fraud/, decided to check it for once. sorry for not obeying the laws of a fucking thread dude :(((((

run s4 and cardarine (for cancer gains)

why are you so passive agressive? did the roids fuck up your brain? genuinely asking.

I don't roid, and would you be nice to someone if the first thing they say to you is "retard".
Yeah dude, I'm the brainlet here

Attached: 1550230308622.jpg (251x242, 15K)

The people who coach natural bodybuilders tend to recommend waiting a month or two and doing some heavier lower volume training at maintenance before starting to cut.

Honestly I don't fucking know, try it and find out. Also you should check out Scott Stevenson's book "Be your own bodybuilding coach". You might find it useful

you actually said retard first, i guess there‘s actually something wrong with you. get well soon

If you're trying to recomp in general then you're a brainlet desu. Especially if you're doing it natty.

>natty
>dyel
>asking retarded questions
>tripfag
fuck off retard

Eating at maintaince is meant for keeping gains not for shredding. Or you have to do a ton cardio with it, but you progress will go fucking slow.

If you cut you go on a decifit and add more cardio when you stagnate. There is no better way to do it period.

how far can an averagefag even accomplish with 200mg test and 200mg mast a week?

I'm done blasting or doing high doses, I'm just getting a tiny bit more than peak natty levels, ill add the masteron for libido/dryness, ill assume it doesnt actually do anything meaningful.

few guys have told me they use lower volume and heavier weights during a cut with 20-30 minutes of cardio 4 times per week. I like that because 15+ reps and supersets is pretty much cardio itself and probably not best in a deficit

get styled on kids B)

Attached: 1798527_1383660031905835_1151884152_n.png (402x715, 332K)

you understand though that i’ll also be taking cardarine and s4 right? I mean these are pretty much muscle retaining and fat loss sarms.

that’s my plan though. i’ll be doing cardio from the start and keeping the weight but lowering the volume of workouts

tren ace kick in time?

>but I’m taking Sarms

Jesus you’re a fucking idiot. LMAO

fucking idiot that looks better than you ahahahaha

You should be feeling the full effect in 8-10 days?

Using a fat teenager's pics to LARP as a retard is uncouth friendo.
Unless that is you, and if it is you need to cut you're too fat for a recomp to be effective (I can tell by your face).

am i imagining shit then because today is day 3 and last night i couldn't sleep for shit which i thought was trensomnia

also, test/tren/drol should blow me up real quick right

just do tren and test instead. mast is shit

You'll get a lot of glycogen if you can somehow eat while taking tren/anadrol or superdrol
How much muscular tissue you'll keep is questionable.

You do you thing and I will do mine. Let's see who is getting more shredded you or me.

Challenge accepted? When do we start?

Only supp I will be using later on is ECA

Hi test, I’ve been looking at cardarine for around a year now. It really appeals to me. I’ve read just about everything having to do with the cancer correlation from actual research arrivals to discussions on reddit. Will this shit give me cancer, and would I be a good idea to use if this is my case I also want to have not shit endurance.

I'll let you know I've lost weight since that picture you faggot ;)

Attached: webcam_16_02_19.jpg (497x282, 24K)

You have tren flowing in your bloodstream from the first time you pin. You'll feel some positives and negatives quickly, but you won't experience the full benefits until after the levels have built up and are stable in your blood.

tren sides kick in extremely fast and with tren a you're at your peak release within about 5 days. there's also a common misconception around here that you need to be at full saturation to feel the effect of a compound but obviously that's not true.

Is this an okay brand?

Attached: sadg2666.png (128x206, 43K)

whatever haha i’m down.

I have like a week to 1.5 week of npp left. going to cruise and focus on some recovery (massage, cryotherapy, deep tissue work, get blood work done) then will start cutting after.

it’s really good for endurance. recommended is 20mg per day but I usually will run 10-12.5mg. no will not get fucking cancer. they gave that shit to rats at 30x human dose

Imagine unironically doing roids LMAO. What do you faggots gain from this?

Alright, looks like I’m off to buy som GW then. Hoping to really speed up this cut so I can finally start cycling.

I get to fuck your mom lmao

If your plan is based around relatively low volume (albeit with hopefully high intensities) and low amounts of cardio why are you planning on taking a compound which is mainly for endurance?

additional muscle retention and gw will slightly speed up fat loss. s4 does same but is more anabolic

We both start cutting in 1-2 weeks on cruise dose of test. Not tren,mast no nothing test only.

Can choice all sups you want.

Lets this be a real one no supermong challenge bs.

That faggot is the prime example of the absolute fucking state of this board. Just go to the archive and check out his posts.

>mostly shitposting
>lifting for 2 weeks
>giving advice about lifting and dieting
>"we're all gonna make it"

Attached: Capture.jpg (1858x199, 47K)

What do you plan on doing when your rate of fat loss stalls/stops?

I forgot to add the most imporant part

>started lifting last week
>already asking about steroids

Attached: Capture.jpg (1400x290, 40K)

I don't really see a difference between the two pics my goblin friend

i’m down for that not 1-2 weeks though lol. i’ll give you a head start since i’m using sarms

more cardio and volume

I wouldn't completely dismiss SARMS. I dropped 20 lb with 300 mg Test a week, 20 mg cardarine, and 25 mg ostarine in 6 weeks with minimal strength loss. My OHP and deadlift took a little hit but bench stayed the same. I was so impressed that I would continue but I want to squeeze in a little Tren blast before May when it starts getting ungodly humid and hot here.

yikes

When you wanna start then?

this. sarms work. ostarine is a bit of a waste but cardarine yk11 and s4 are pretty potentenr

probably another month or so. I need to focus more on recovery these next couple of weeks but start whenever you want to

I like ostarine mainly for joint benefits. Whenever I get lifter's elbow symptoms ostarine seems to fix me right up in about a week or two.

You can't recover during a cut? What is your plan for cutting then?

Don't pussy out now bro.

let me do my thing lol we will compare on spring. I have a few tight areas I need to get taken care of

I think it's pretty funny. Too bad he's used this same image at least twice before. Fucking boomers man,

There are health consequences, and anybody who tells you otherwise is deluded. However, the consequences can be quite minimal, depending on how responsible he is with his use and what he's taking. It could range anywhere from a little bit of back acne to heart/liver/kidney failure.

If he does infect you during sex, it's not from the steroids. That's not something you have to worry about.

The best thing to do is talk to him seriously about it and gauge his experience and care with his usage. If he never gets blood work done, doesn't check on his blood pressure, doesn't ever come off (or at least lower the dose), or does other irresponsible things, then you can expect him to have health problems sooner or later.

How long are you planning on cutting for? 12 weeks? 16 weeks?

12-16 for me

>tren dick
>leaky nipples
>prolactin gyno
>prolactin bloat
>caber is like 80 bux for a few tablets

I aint going there again nigga.

What are you going to run then beside the sarms and how much.

Ok let's see how's going to btfo who in shredds.

Yes

cardarine isn't a sarm and imo it's the best performance drug ever

>take my jacket off at work for the first time in god knows how long
>black women molesting me
>manlets asking if I’m on hgh
Feels okay but little do they know I’m fat as fuck.

Find a better source for caber then. I paid $30 for 20 1mg pharma tabs.

Attached: 7D8B9148-5ABE-41EE-8FB9-50FF68946D52.jpg (1080x1920, 346K)

Can I do tren on my first cycle? That sounds retarded.

What compound is best for strength gains with just a test base? I just want the energy to lift after work and strength.

I was thinking 200mg test as a base per week and another compound for strength without bloat? Anavar, winstrol? Nolva and ai on hand.

For the record I have been lifting just 6 months natty but have worked manual labor for ages. My stats are

5'8 180lbs, 14% bodyfat

I basically do ppl but only when I'm not too blasted from work

my strongest lifts are

pullups: +60lbsx5 by 5
dips: +100x5 by5
squats: 250x5 by5

Squats are weak I guess because legs are more tired than everything else after work. Strength is inconsistent as fuck because of fatigue from work too.

I could obviously make more gains natty but with work it's a fucking bitch and dropping some bf to help my overall aesthetic, while also having a bit more energy after long hard days would be a godsend.

>croatia
truly a disgrace to all slavs

I know source talk isn’t allowed, in just wanting to mention it’s fustrating trying to find one. So many conflicting reviews on most sources

Lmao not with those lifts. Just stick to test as a starting cycle.

nothing else besides them

>Can I do tren on my first cycle?
>I just want the energy to lift
>Anavar, winstrol?
>5'8 180lbs, 14% bodyfat
>I have been lifting just 6 months
we literally had a fucking retard like you just an hour ago and here we go again

1. You have no idea how your body will react to just testosterone but you want to take the harshest drug out there.
2. You need food and rest, steroids won't give you energy to lift.
3. You are fucking dyel and you need some base before hopping on gear. Come back in 2 years.

Fucking natty faggots thinking that le steroids are the answer to everything and a magic fix.

steroids won't bring my ex back? wtf??

I cannot wait to see how badly masT btfos you shredding

Been BnCing 2 years and have been cumming inside my gf when she isn’t on birth control for almost a year, so I think I’m low sperm definitely.

What’s the standard HCG dose for recovering fertility on a cruise? 500 is twice a week right?

People unironically think that testosterone cures depression. Not to mention those who are convinced that it builds muscle without lifting.

masT is talking about being fat on a bulk or shredded on a cut but from the pictures he's posting i see him being fairly lean year round and personally i can't see the difference (unless he is tricking me with pictures that are not recent)

I was literally clearly joking when I said "tren ... that sounds retarded"

I explained that I wanted to go so I had the energy to actually consistently lift after work. Food isn't the problem or else I'd be losing weight desu. Rest is obviously not an option because of my job.

But as for base like joint/tendon strength I have a fuckload due to my job and my main lifts are easy on joints even with pullups and dips with pretty big added weight

But yeah, don't want a magic fix, I want to be able to do more work.

Haven't steroids historically been done by athletes so they can handle and adapt to greater workload? That is just what I'm asking for.

Lurking on a lot of places it seems people say test alone even with an AI causes more bloat than if using an oral like var or winstrol, which is why I was considering those.

> You have no idea how your body will react to just testosterone

I guess good thanks

MasT doesn’t know what fat is
Prick has never been above 15% in his life

That’s because he’s disciplined in his diet unlike you fat fucks.

He's posted recent pictures showing bloating and some fat from his bulk though.

No, you used "that sounds retarded" as a red herring to avoid flat out being called a retard.

If you truly thought it was retarded you wouldn't have asked the question to begin with. You came in here in an attempt to try to get guidance for a "tren's formation".

At 6 months lifting you shouldn't even be using gear as you probably have a lot left to learn. If you feel tired, just take a pre-workout packed with stimulants before lifting.

B-b-but food is so tasty user :(

Thanks for writing this! I‘ll keep an eye on him

>if there is something he could infect me with, when we have sex

I can imagine the conversation
>yeah the gonorrhea is from running high abouts of EQ
>never gonna run that one again

Attached: 1308341075809.png (512x384, 351K)

>Rest is obviously not an option because of my job
quit your job then

When i mean you need rest, i mean you need rest. Injecting chemicals into your body won't give you magic superpowers, in reality it will only make your everyday life worse. Imagine having to work with bad pip or sore everything from training.

>Haven't steroids historically been done by athletes
Except you're not an athelete. You're a wagecuck wasting away all day at work so it's obivious that you won't have energy to lift after that.

Sure thing. You might actually want to give the wiki a read. It's linked in the OP, and it covers basically any early questions you might have.

this. just lol at all these dick suckers

It's reasonable to think that putting someone on 500mg of test will cause them to gain muscle mass up to a new point of homeostasis even in the absence of training.
The question is what the new homeostasis point actually is.

You're fatter than 14% bodyfat friendo, I guarantee it.
That being said I'd pay much more attention to my nutrition if I were you, and I'd stop making excuses, there are world record holding (multi ply) powerlifters who move furniture for a living.
Compound wise I'd run 500 test ~300 eq if you just want more endurance/recovery as that's what I did when I was lifting/moving furniture for a living, and I'd look into MK 677