Why cant men learn to keep their hands to themselves?

Why cant men learn to keep their hands to themselves?

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>NowThis
lmao sure

because men are often sexually aggressive, thoughtless, and lack empathy

Why even care if this is what they want they'll get it. Whatever man just enjoy the ride.

dont believe me? watch it for yourself twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1068657932525543426?s=20

Yikes, you sound bitter.

Who hurt you?

What about my comment made you think I trust literally anything (((NowThis))) has to say, or care if some roasties got felt up after going to a place where literally the entire point is to get felt up? Go drink AIDS semen

>dressing like whores in a club
>expect to not get touched

autism.jpg.exe

I'm a guy. I'm speaking from past personal experience from myself, friends, and acquaintances.

So you're just a self hating beta?

Does this smart dress take into account people bumping other people

>Go to the club
>Flailing around in a tight crowd
>Bump into people
>"Smart" dress registers UNCONSENSUAL TOUCH (How the fuck did it know if it was consensual or not anyway?)
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE RAPIST MEN DON'T TOUCH ME

Nice study, roasts, you never cease to amuse me.

Half of the touches were accidental bumps

By this time next year:
>Why aren't any cute guys touching me??

they recorded the interactions and the dress also could detect the intensity of any contact so it could tell the difference between a tap or bump and a full on grope. just watch the video dude.

can i please have the link to the video

>mfw in a few decades americans will die out because of things like this unless they delete the internet

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I like how you didn't answer my question.

Someone hurt you.

Just scroll up the thread. I already linked it.

>just watch the video dude.
Literally every NowThis video is verifiably full of blatant lies, why would this one be any different? For all we know they asked the guys in the club to grope women just to increase the number of times it happened. And even so, if you go into a house of degeneracy and drug use dressed like a harlot and expect not to get groped, that's YOUR fault.

I've matured over the years, I'm more considerate now, but many men I know remain the same. I'm certainly not chad but I've fucked enough girls to confidently say I'm not fully beta. A large reason women like "aggressive" men falls under the same logic for why conservatives like guns.
A woman wants a strong confident male to protect her from other strong, confident, sexually aggressive males.
Conservatives want guns to protect themselves from niggers with guns.
If men stopped raping and molesting girls, girls would begin to more frequently feel safe enough to date people who they genuinely liked personality wise. This would include robots and such. Not all of them of course, many are irredeemable, but I'm guessing a considerable number of them.

thanks and also it was in brazil so that kinda explains it

Ah, I see. In the end, women have no agency, remain irrelevant and it was all because of men again.

Honestly this just makes me think feminists are what autistic women become.
>go to club in a fucking pencil skirt
>surprised when guys try to hit on you
>surprised that people are forward about their interest in a club and make a move like putting their hand on your back
>surprised that someone might put their hand on your shoulder in a loud dark room to let you know they're trying to talk to you

The complete unawareness of how people act in a night club genuinely makes me think they're just autistic.

>Conservatives want guns to protect themselves from niggers with guns.
No, I want guns because shooting things is fun. Just like women want big strong aggressive males because they enjoy being dominated.

Imagine thinking your oppressed because people find you attractive

I don't hate women but I don't love them. I'm no feminist, and I'll be the first to admit that in many ways, women have more rights and privileges in modern day first world society than men.
Although, unlike yourself, I do not allow this fact to embitter me to the point of condoning rape and molestation.

does putting your hand on someones back count as groping tho

>getting a hand placed on your back
>rape and molestation
come on dude

is that all you got? No wonder you're lonely

I don't condone rape and molestation, I just want all women to die and be replaced by artificial wombs so the world can move past what basically amounts to walking holes.

>wish death on women just because they wont fuck you

:) Well I am moving to Norway with my dual citizenship so I don't have to deal with this shithole.

>go to club
>tight space packed with people
>dark with flashing lights
>too loud to hear anyone
>constantly bumping into people you didn't hear, see, or couldn't avoid
>have to squeeze your way past oblivious people to get to bar, booth, dance floor, or restrooms
>only got bumped 157 times

Would you say that to your mother on her deathbed?

If no, then maybe you don't truly believe that and you're blinded by some bad life experiences that with time and persistence, you can learn to overcome.

If yes,
Then perhaps you're the walking hole? Your hole being the hole that spews the thoughtless stupidity that you're so convinced of being productive to society

Sure, if it makes you sleep easier at night. It's because roasts won't fuck me. They deny me their holes and so I must rage on the Internet kek

>club

lolllllllll

First of all
>Brazil
Second of all, how does the dress differentiate between someone bumping into you on accident/you bumping into someone?

If I counted every time some weird old person at work put their hand on my back/shoulder/arm as "molestation" I'd probably be more oppressed than these women are.

How is that autistic in anyway shape or form? I thought autismos are meant to be super literal and shit?
Probably not/doesn't since it's a publicity stunt designed to drive traffic to their clickbait website so they can sell advertising.
OP is probably a fucking shill for that website.

Perhaps there are some loud vocal women on the web who like to cry wolf about rape and molestation, and that is wrong.

But there is also no shortage of violent incels who wouldn't flinch at the death of women, regardless of whether they are innocent of false accusations and victim identity propagation or not.

One fucked up ideology doesn't negate another... they just reinforce eachother

>pat someone on the shoulder to let them know youre walking behind them
would this be registered as a 'grope'? because if so iv been groped millions of times at clubs and festivals. if such a touch is considered to be groping, than the laws related to the capacity of clubs is going to have to change drastically so everyone can have at least 5 feet free around them

Have they tried not hanging out in nightclubs? People go there for one reason and you shouldn't be surprised when you're treated accordingly. Not saying it's right, just saying it's ridiculously easy to avoid and comes with the territory.

Norway is gonna die out too user. Anyone who fails to resist to this autism is gonna die out. In 2050 there's gonna be only 2 countries in europe and on american continent: Russia and Byelorussia. So you better move to Russia. Or Byelorussia.

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Why should I, or anyone else, care about the death of someone I have never and would never have met? People are a dime a dozen, and women are about 7 cents a dozen.

People don't go to nightclubs to get groped, stop watching so much porn. They go there to find a consensual dancing partner (or they go with a group of guys and girls), have a few drinks and then converse with them and see where things go from there...
Women don't owe you their bodies

>Go to a crowded place, people shoulder to shoulder
>Get bumped and brushed up against all night by people trying to make their way through a crowd
>AAHHH STOP TOUCHING US

Are you serious?

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dang roasties are more disgusting than i thought

>Loud nightclub, literally impossible to communicate through verbal speech

Touch a woman on her LITERAL ACTUAL FUCKING ARM to get her attention, must be rape.

>Club where it is crowded

Brush up against a woman's butt. Must be actual rape.

>Woman is out at the club and might be looking to get with a man.

Give her any sort of attention to see if she is interested at all. Must be rape.

Show me the fucking actual data. How many of these touches were in clearly innaproripate places like the groin or breasts? Because it seems like the VAST majority are literally on the shoulder.

>Get a woman's attention to let her know that a man just swiped her purse or spiked her drink. Literally touch her on the least sexual part of the human body, her shoulder.

Registered as violent sexual assault by the sexual assault dress.

Have you ever seen the movie RoboCop? In the film an A.I. controlled crime enforcement bot named ED-209 has a malfunction in which it cannot differentiate a man who has surrendered from one who has not. Thus the killer bot gives an undesirable resultant output of blowing many dozens of high caliber holes in the person in question.

Should we, as humans, just throw away our most basic judgment because "Le evil cis males" would DARE lay a hand on a woman's FUCKING SHOULDER?

If you can read and I doubt it, it had censors smart enough to know the difference between accedentaly brushing past and on purpose touching.

How many of these were actual touches and how.many were brushes and attempts to.get through because it's a fucking club?

Because caring about your fellow citizens is one of the cornerstones of a successful, peaceful, first world industrialized society. If you want to live in violent tribal apathy then go live in Somalia, and bring your hate with you. It has no place in the civilized world

Sorry, I only care about virgin or happily married white women. All other women are destroying society far more than my """"hate"""""ever could.

>go to what is essentially a box where they pour a bunch of horny brain-dead Chads and Stacies in, shale them up and see who fucks who
>Surprised that guys come on to you
Literally the only reason anyone goes to a club is so they can fuck an atteactiveber of their chosen sex without having to actually put in the effort of being interesting or engaging. She's just pussy because not enough of the people molesting her were Chad.

Welp. :/ At least it's not the USA. This place has a 15 year shelf life at most. I can't believe my family moved here.

So women sleeping with men they're attracted to is destroying society? I think most productive, respectful members of society would disagree with you there... but let's say they are. Are they destroying society more than violent criminals? Incel school shooters? Christian Extremists? Muslim Sharia extremists? Jobless incels who live on betabucks?

Or do you tell yourself they are destroying society and try hard to believe that because it helps justify your hatred of women for not sleeping with you as much as you wish they did?

Context matters in this case. Is a dress with sensors gonna get bumped into a lot in a crowded club? Yes. Is bumping into people considered sexual assault or rape? No. And in what country was this case study done in?

vox.com/the-goods/2018/11/29/18118402/ogilvy-schweppes-smart-dress-harassment

According to this vox article, it appears that this was done in a club in Brazil. The majority of the touches looking at the video, were arm, hip, and shoulder touches, with almost no groping of tits or ass. Personally I would like to see the raw data myself.

is this some crazy AI tech? because you do understand theres varying levels of getting bumped into or accidentally being touched. not to mention the fact that in such a space people frequently tap each other on the shoulder or back to get their attention, or to let them know they are trying to get through. how do these sensors decide what is on purpose and what is not?

The study could very well be flawed I agree. But I would bet that if it was proven that these women were really groped or molested, that the general attitude of the response in this threat would be the same

You are really projecting an argument onto me that I'm not making at all. Nothing wrong with women sleeping with men they're attracted to as long as theyre married. It's loose women who fuck a new guy every week that are destroying society, but you're too much of a whipped male feminist beta to realize that. You probably think its "empowering".

I don't think it's empowering at all. I am personally more attracted to women who sleep with less men myself. But on the other hand, women are attracted to men who make lots of money and are good looking.
Everyone has preferences, you can't demonize someone for their preferences. It's just how life works. People like who they like.

The dress was fitted with Bluetooth stickers and measured intensity of the touches as well. We would need to see the data to see the full picture, the ad agency which conducted the experiment probably only listed how many times the women were touched because that's much more sensational then showing and posting the graphs online with the data concerning intensity.

So what the fuck are you even disagreeing with me on then?

>i got touched in a nightclub
o-ok?

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I'm trying to help you not feel so hateful. If you rise above your hate of women you will be happier yourself and make the people around you happier as well. You'll live a better life. I'm not saying I'm smarter but I felt the same way as you for a long time and it weighed heavily upon me but I feel much better after putting in solid effort into accounting both sides of the coin to come to a empathy based conclusion

>intensity of the touches as well
you understand that you can get hit or bumped into pretty hard or pretty lightly on accident right? big nightclubs are packed wall to wall with people, of course you're going to constantly be getting touched

why are you on this board. You could be spending your time better elsewhere.

I agree with you. But then you would be able to get rid of the data that shows touches that have too much or too little intensity.

I don't hate women, dumbass. Me not putting women above men isn't hating them.

>dont be sexually aggressive
You'll never get any
>put her needs first
You're weak and will never even find a girlfriend
>Have empathy, listen to her cry
Instantly friendzoned.

Fuck off. This board is literally filled with non-aggressive empathetic, thoughtful men who cannot get any.

Do you hate women who sleep with multiple men because you think are wrecking society? If so then you hate pretty much atleast 95% of women. Forgive me for saying you hate women based off that fact.

Not many people out there are telling you to put women above men besides a few vocal radical feminists. All I'm suggesting is to form your opinions and feelings towards women the way you would want people to think and feel about you were you to be in womens' position

sure you could, but again, theres no way to say what was on purpose or not.

did these fags publish an actual paper? because this video doesn't really give any real information.

empathy has got me laid many times.
And ill tell you this right now... if empathy doesnt work for you then aggression sure as hell wont either.

Worst case scenario, neither works for you. Does that mean you have to punish people for it? Hate people? Its YOUR problem you're not desirable. It doesnt mean your bad, and it doesnt mean you should feel bad. It just means life gave you a bad hand in that regard. The right thing to do for yourself and others is to healthily cope, try to make the best of yourself, and try to enjoy life in as many ways as you can otherwise. Perhaps you'll find what you're looking for on the way.

>Do you hate women who sleep with multiple men because you think are wrecking society? If so then you hate pretty much atleast 95% of women. Forgive me for saying you hate women based off that fact.
You're missing the point that i hate those men who are sleeping with these women as well. They're equally culpable for the current degeneration of society.

Nope, since it's a fucking ad company doing this, so I don't really get why this is even being taken so seriously.

Girls do it way more. Every girl that's ever felt up someone without consent, which is all of them, should have their lives permanently and savagely ruined.

You people slept around quite often in the 1940s too, not as much but still probably enough to bother you. Was that what you consider to be the golden era?
Was it the 1800s then? As you go back through history you'll find the general quality of life decreases as the celibacy of women increases.
Are these two things intrinsically connected? Maybe, maybe not. But I can say confidently say that neither of us have enough wisdom, experience, or reliable knowledge to make a claim as bold and striking as "women and men consensually sleeping with eachother is ruining society."

What part of society is it that is so ruined? The accessible health care and education? The highest ever average mortality age? The longest prolonged period of time humanity has ever seen without intense warfare? The all time high for most information and media and entertainment at the end of our fingertips on the world wide web?

if I had to guess I'd say you and most R9Ker's definition of "ruined society" just means you guys arent getting laid as much as you want. What makes you think youd have a better chance at getting laid in the 1940s? the 1800s? I think your belief is a cop out for facing your struggles and putting in real effort to overcome them. Copulating was never meant to be easy and effortless for most people. Just because you see some people have it easy doesn't mean society is "wrecked"

>stop touching us
>their only reason for living is to be touched
????

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You are being willfully disingenuous. Go shill your website somewhere else.

I am extremely perturbed by this continuing trend of extremist humans demanding rights that shouldn't exist because it's flat out insanity. These very same shitbags complain about privilege. What a joke. Are women becoming dumber? What does that even mean? Stop touching us? If you don't want to be touched then fucking kill yourself, because that's the only way you'll avoid having to engage one of your five basic senses you immensely thick skulled monkey fuck. Stop bringing everybody down by getting us distracted in these stupid games and let us focus on matters that are actually important. Stop making things all about yourself and how offended you are, how angry you are about the most excusable and retarded shit only a privileged little princess fuck like you could take the time to complain about. Nobody needs consent to engage one of the five basic senses you dumb fucking hag. You probably touched men just walking or dancing around or whatever the fuck you do in your dumb peanut brain live-by-vagina ho ass bitch time. You're at a CLUB where people like you dumb whores go to get fucked, and even then "157" touches was probably just regular ass accidental or common sense shit. Ain't no bitch on the planet getting copped 157 feels in one night unless she's a pornstar doing a bukkake from hell or she is looking to get 157 feels and she's throwing herself on man after man you know what I'm fucking SAYING

Okay but what would happen if a man wore an outfit made with the same technology? This whole "experiment" is meaningless without controlling for the opposite gender.

Why do girls go to sexual hunting ground if they don't want sexual advances?

How do normies manage to be so stupid. Also clubs are overrated shit moneytraps for poor people who think they are flexing by paying 500% more and being blasted with loud music that you can't even talk to anyone.

>go to crowded club
>shuffle through to bar
>register 20 touches because you pushed past people with your elbow and shoulder

MEN who done GET OUT OF THE WAY are LITERALLY RAPING WXYZMEN

I have no website except Jow Forums. I'm just your typical sad/bitter 4channer who's seen the light. You close a lot of doors with the stress and negativity you impose on yourself. You'll give yourself heart problems and other illnesses. Life is short. You should invest in making your experience as great and unregrettable as possible.

There's more to life than bitches, and more to life than focusing on other people and things you don't like

Why did the thread keep going after this post?
Ok but this post is also good

>You're at a CLUB where people like you dumb whores go to get fucked, and even then "157" touches was probably just regular ass accidental or common sense shit.
It distinguished between accidental and intended touches by pressure and length of contact. Even still, they were mostly back touches or arm touches from men trying to get their attention. They weren't getting their asses slapped and titties squeezed all night

>If men stopped raping and molesting girls, girls would begin to more frequently feel safe enough to date people who they genuinely liked personality wise. This would include robots and such
Proof?

>If men stopped raping and molesting girls, girls would begin to more frequently feel safe enough to date people who they genuinely liked personality wise. This would include robots and such.
Source: your ass

I have no proof because society has never reached this point. BUT - If I told you women like strong men because they make them feel safe, you wouldn't ask for proof, now would you?

Take away women's fear and need for protection, and I wouldn't be surprised at all if things changed. Obviously not a complete 100% change, but I bet it'd be noticeable.

>Brazil
to be fair that's a large part of the problem.

>I have no proof
Stopped reading there.

Teehee dont touch me silly boys~
Im gonna go to a party full of dumb drunk horny guys, i hope nothing happens haha

>bump into woman
>STOP TOUCHING US

When a slut wears hot shit around drunk guys, she must be fucking dumb to not expect this shit

fine by me, live in ignorance. Put your fingers in your ears when someone says something you don't like. I hear women find that really attractive

I agree. Does that make it ok to molest women though?
If your mom wore a short skirt out one night, is it cool if I rape her then?

Being touched in public happens. I don't REEEEE over it. What is with these women?

>Pull bullshit conjecture out of your asshole
>Get mad when people don't listen or take it seriously
lel

"Stop touching us! Unless you're Chad."

Asking people to take common-sense preventive measures for their own safety isn't victim-blaming. Grand theft auto isn't okay, but maybe don't leave your car with all its doors open in downtown Detroit.