So I’m wanting to do an 8 week cardarine (GW 501516) run. I wanted to see if anyone else has used this drug and what the results were. How did it help endurance, what about fat loss if any?
For background on me, I have always had pretty shitty endurance. Most I’ve ever been able to run is a couple miles. I burn out pretty easily. Even after doing daily cardio for a year straight while in HS I was never able to run more than 20 minutes without stopping. I’d like to build some decent endurance naturally just for my own ego, but really I just want to get cut a little quicker so I can start cycling test.
If you’ll read the post, and I know words are hard for you, you’ll see that I fully intend to. If you think starting my first cycle while I’m over 20% bf is a good idea in the slightest, you’re down right retarded. You make the most and best gains on the first cycle, something I intend to take full advantage of.
Cameron Cruz
Bump
Nathaniel Wright
Enjoy the cancer fren
Zachary Gonzalez
>t. Sheep
Isaiah Nelson
Pretty good. Fat loss isnt that noticeable, most of it I believe is from a lower calorie intake. You will definitely notice increase in endurance. I noticed I needed alot less rest in between sets
Grayson Phillips
No but seriously the cancer risk is really really bad. Like 30 days of human equivalent doses in mice had fucktons of cancers everywhere. It killed any clinical hope the product had
Anthony Gray
did your dink ass just imply mice taking human doses is the same thing?
Jeremiah Hill
There was a paper published afterwards covered that the issue was due to an extra processing step in the rodent liver that causes then compound to turn cancerous, but it lacks the same effect in humans
Jacob Moore
yes that was a single proposed (untested) hypothesis, if you're comfortable literally betting your life that the author was correct, then go ahead.
Isaac Cooper
Op here. I’ve read all the studies and research articles. The rat cancer study had them giving the animals the equivalent of if a human had 1000x the normal dose for 5 years straight. It’s meant to be used at a much lower dose and onlyfor 8-16 weeks
Christian Thompson
Human-equivalent doses. Higher than it's used recreationally, but not that much higher.
Easton Gray
True but as was noted in the paper other ppar delta agonists had the same effects, and the mechanism for it being carcinogenic in rodents was well understood. I fact the ppar action has actually been shown to be helpful in fighting cancer in humans but not in rats. That being said you are taking a risk when you get these chemicals into your body.
Gabriel Wood
Ah I didn't know the update existed.
I sold GW, as well as SARMS in the US. But Canada got seriously pissed I was selling GW because of the cancer study so I stopped offering it to Canadian buyers
Brayden Jones
What's funny though is that I can still buy gw up here from about 4 different companies, and could probably get it imported easily from a couple others in the states
Do yourself a favor and kindly look up what testosterone is by definition, then kill yourself (preferably in a painful manner) to remove yourself from the gene pool.
Dominic Barnes
Nonsense he just needs a warm bath. You can actually use a plugged in toaster as a bath warmer, the electrons in the water energize you too and help burn fat
Ayden Martinez
cardarine is bad for your heart
im doing T3, clen, ephedrine, caffeine run but doing it responsibly
Jaxson Torres
This MUST be bait
Chase Diaz
>im doing T3, clen, ephedrine, caffeine >but cardarine is bad for your heart Kek