Not counting calories eating whatever you want and being daddy mode at higher bf

>not counting calories eating whatever you want and being daddy mode at higher bf
vs
>Not being able to eat what you want and be shredded
What's the better endgame assuming you're an advanced lifter? No Flabbies or DYELS allowed to give their opinion

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Second option. Bland food does not become an issue once you get used to it. Also, second just flat out feels better physically but also mentally.

the second one

i did not spend thousands of hours doing this shit to look like a fatass

Put this guy on the chart

Assuming you're advanced? Definitely the first. Unless your whole goal is to pull thots, the investment\return ratio of option 1 is just better imo. We're talking bf% ~20 on a guy with a good frame and face? He is healthy, handsome, and comes across as strong and capable.

Hideo Kojimo got shredded?

t. fat fuck

>eating clean = bland food
>what are spices

>t. twink gymcel calorie counting cuck whose overcompensating is clear to men and women alike

this is the problem im facing, I want to fucking enjoy myself and be able to have fun on nights out and I ask myself is it really worth it to pull thots?

>I ask myself is it worth it?
It isn't. Learn from Chad. Find the path where you aren't obsessing over calories. Hit more or less your nurition goals over a very long period of time; work out seriously over a long period of time. Do these things while not sacrificing social, mental, or career gains. No one likes a pedantic food cunt. And the difference in women you pull is between 2-4 pts tops on the 1-10 scale. Just fix your face, be healthy, and live an active and public life (make yourself socially available) and you will land a decent woman.

>Just fix your face
Literally the only reason I even stay at low BF year round is face gains

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Tbh he looks better on the right

cope cope cope fatty

Ideal would be somewhere in the middle

This guy is a fag and on trt

>this desperate
I know, it must suck being constantly mogged :( but at least you know your weak little body doesn't have any nasty masculinity weighing it down!!!

easy, both. just change "what you want" to be the best foods possible for you. unless you're a fat fuck in recovery, unhealthy food just doesn't taste good, because it doesn't make you feel good and your body builds that association.

teehee I love a dad bod, can you pick me up tomorrow from tyrone's house, you're such a great husband

>Being as lean and ripped as possible, eating super clean by yourself but then hiding your power levels and eating "normal" things when getting laid so you give the impression of being super hot but also laid back and fun

eating everything in sight guilt free because you work so hard in the gym

OP specified that this hypothetical body is an advanced lifter. Someone pulling 2/3/4/5 or even just below that at 20%bf will have no problem pulling and keeping a good woman.
Also, a six pack won't keep a bonafide thot from straying. It's the man who makes a girl call him daddy who she strays FOR. (Not to be confused with a dad bod btw)

After not eating processed foods and on a 500cal deficit for about 2 months, I had a bunch of candy and ice cream last night because I fell off. I feel like absolute shit and didn't realize how good my body and mind felt until now. I can confidently say I never want to eat like shit ever again. Food doesn't need to be a pleasure. You are what you eat. option 2

So is the OP talking about eating candy and shit? Cuz I guess I thought it went without saying that you should eat clean...
OP if you've been arguing for just eating whatever cancerous processed shit you want then your thread, which was always kind of shitty, just become pure shit

hideo koGEARma

Fucking this. Just learn how to use spices and herbs and all your clean and lean food will taste god tier


I typed this while smashing a breakfast maxibon on my cheat day tho

Learn to cook, bitches love that and you can make nutritious and delicious food.

You can eat tasty stuff and be healthy on maintenance or a bulk, bland shit is for a cut so you can not eat more.

He looks better on the right

This. Sacrifice regularly eating garbage food (but saving it for an occasional treat) to afford more options later in life. Like being able to ride your bike or kayak, while so many 50 year olds move around like 80 year olds.

Once you get later into your lifting life, you can actually eat quite a lot and not get fat