Who is the official Jow Forums philosopher and why is it Senaca the Younger

Who is the official Jow Forums philosopher and why is it Senaca the Younger

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Pythagoras is the only answer

It's based lefty diogenes

Daily reminder that Jow Forums is a Christian board.

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For me it's Julius Caesar

>Julius Caesar
>a philosopher

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Apparently this quote is more about being ‘military fit’ than actually building an impressive physique, but Socrates must’ve been pretty Jow Forums

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what is it with the seneca shills recently?
I can forgive shilling socrates but shilling seneca is just pathetic

Hesiod, but he wasn't actually a philosopher. He was a middle class farmer and a poet

>Zeus, Hesiod says, commanded this ʺbeautiful evilʺ to be created as a punishment for the crime of Prometheus (one of the Titans) who stole fire from the gods and gave it to humans. Pandora opened the lid of a jar containing all the plagues and diseases of the world and let them out. All womankind inherited Pandoraʹs ʺshameless mind and deceitful nature,ʺ her ʺlies and coaxing words.ʺ Women, the poet says, live off men like the drones among the bees.

>ʺDo not let a woman wiggling her behind deceive you with her wheedling words. She is after your granary. The man who trusts a woman trusts thievesʺ (Works and Days 373‐375).

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For me it's stoicism and I aspire to be like Cato the Younger

For me it's Brutus

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For me? Marcus Aurelius.
Meditations have helped me greatly throughout life, and every now and then I skim through the book in order to remind myself.

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Marcus Aurelius is better
also,
>mfw Pliny the Elder looks younger than Senaca the Younger
>Seneca the Younger
>norwood 8

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He literally wrote lifting is shit and you should just do minimal amount of cardio lol, Jow Forums as fuck

So an insufferable twat that hates on everyone who excells and if necessary ruins the republic just to spite your betters?

Joe Rogan.

/thread

fuck the senate

Came to post this most based stoic

Leo Tolstoy

Damn women been thotting for melenia

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>Do not let a woman wiggling her behind deceive you with her wheedling words. She is after your granary. The man who trusts a woman trusts thieves
lmao, absolutely, unironically based and red pilled

The one true philosopher. Basedcism.

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I actually just started listening to a Seneca audio book, really liking his stuff so far.

LESS TALKING MORE LIFTING

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Socrates’ chose disciples well. Plato is a nickname for “broad-chested”, literally the greek equivalent of “Big Guy”memes

Behold a man

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based

Don't let the carnal thots into your granaries, men.

Lest they eat all the seeds. And next years harvest gains will be wrought ruination.

Lmao Seneca is top tier. There are better, but Seneca is very good.
Epictetus is a better fit for Jow Forums tbqh

>ʺDo not let a woman wiggling her behind deceive you with her wheedling words. She is after your granary. The man who trusts a woman trusts thievesʺ (Works and Days 373‐375).
BASED AF

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>be Epictetus
>write literal handbook on the philosophy of stoicism and it’s way of life
>have your works be read by Marcus Aurelius
> he then applies that philosophy in his life and writes it down in his diary how it has effected his life
>tfw your handbook on stoicism is ignored in favor of a dudes private diary on the same subject
Read the enchyridion before Marcus’s shit

>ʺDo not let a woman wiggling her behind deceive you with her wheedling words. She is after your granary. The man who trusts a woman trusts thievesʺ (Works and Days 373‐375).
Damn, sounds pretty fucking bassed

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Socrates.

No man has the right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training. It is a shame for a man to grow old without seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable

We pray to Brodin here.

Based

I thought Epictetus didn’t write anything, he gave lectures at his place in Greece and one student wrote most of it down. Plus, Marcus added some independent ideas to Epictetus, it’s not all a 100% paraphrasing of Epictetus.

Marcus Aurelius and thats final

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Drunk, socially isolated, frequent masturbator. Definitely Jow Forums

Drunk, homeless, socially isolated masturbator. Definitely Jow Forums

If he had his tongue any further up dorsey's arse the video would've been demonitized

Underrated post is underrated

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Nietzsche is also up there

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based and saved

But if you marry her it's ok to fill her granary with your fertile seed.

This tbqh senpai

Seneca powers my autism.
Aristotle keeps my autism in check.

Philosopher?

Based Diogenes poster

The actual quote is
> “Do not let a flaunting woman coax and cozen and deceive you: she is after your barn. The man who trusts womankind trust deceivers.”

>tfvv ex-vvife took the granary et kids to Carthage
>probably getting HANNIBALED as vve speak
JVST

Epictetus wrote a literal 30-40 page guidebook to his stoicism, and he actual meant it as a teaching manual. Marcus may have had some musings, but his diary was never intended to be an instructional guide like Epictetus, and his additions are not big enough to justify him over Epictetus

I don't think that's what he meant. Here's the passage from an English translation.

>This, then, is the sort of health you should primarily cultivate; the other kind of health comes second, and will involve little effort, if you wish to be well physically. It is indeed foolish, my dear Lucilius, and very unsuitable for a cultivated man, to work hard over developing the muscles and broadening the shoulders and strengthening the lungs. For although your heavy feeding produce good results and your sinews grow solid, you can never be a match, either in strength or in weight, for a first-class bull. Besides, by overloading the body with food you strangle the soul and render it less active. Accordingly, limit the flesh as much as possible, and allow free play to the spirit. 3. Many inconveniences beset those who devote themselves to such pursuits. In the first place, they have their exercises, at which they must work and waste their life-force and render it less fit to bear a strain or the severer studies. Second, their keen edge is dulled by heavy eating. Besides, they must take orders from slaves of the vilest stamp, – men who alternate between the oil-flask[1] and the flagon, whose day passes satisfactorily if they have got up a good perspiration and quaffed, to make good what they have lost in sweat, huge draughts of liquor which will sink deeper because of their fasting. Drinking and sweating, – it's the life of a dyspeptic![2]

honestly this just reads like a condemnation of the entire Jow Forums lifestyle

>4. Now there are short and simple exercises which tire the body rapidly, and so save our time; and time is something of which we ought to keep strict account. These exercises are running, brandishing weights, and jumping, – high-jumping or broad-jumping, or the kind which I may call, "the Priest's dance,"[3] or, in slighting terms, "the clothes-cleaner's jump."[4] Select for practice any one of these, and you will find it plain and easy. 5. But whatever you do, come back soon from body to mind. The mind must be exercised both day and night, for it is nourished by moderate labour. and this form of exercise need not be hampered by cold or hot weather, or even by old age. Cultivate that good which improves with the years.
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I think his main point is not to prioritize physical exercise over (what he considers) more important things. He recommends what he thinks are "efficient" exercises. But he doesn't just say cardio.

Somewhat but not entirely. I think Seneca would say that chasing numbers or bodybuilding are suboptimal uses of our time. Exercise's principal value is that, by improving our bodies, it enables us to perform better at higher (mental) pursuits. But to the extent that exercise interferes with mental pursuits, whether because exercise consumes too much time, tires us out, or by causing us to eat too much, it is not helpful. Seneca recommends "short and simple exercises, which tire the body rapidly," and he does mention weight training as an example.

why would he care who reads or credits his philosophy? Aurelius book is famous just because he was an Emperor, which is ironic since stoics don't care about fame or re-known like that.

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>let me take part on this with this other translation from greek into latin into anglo*d
fuck off scum

Goethe is B&R

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Correct and Christpilled

cool little bit about Meditations was Marcus never intended for it to be published as some self help guide or even intended for it to be shared. It was a little diary he had throughout his life and he simply wrote his thoughts down when he wanted to remeber it. it was found (i want to say centuries and in the vatican but im not 100% sure) later and only then spread

First time it was written about was around the middle of the 10th century, way after Marcus’ time.

Kek'd

I’m sure he wouldn’t give a shit, it’s still funny to me that a philosophy that cares not for status etc. is promoted through the status of one man over the person who deliberately sought out the spread of ideas. Or maybe it’s less funny and more ironically depressing, like a pop scientist being bigger than the people who found Higgs boson

isn't it funny how the ancient greeks and roman philosophers were absolute chads in terms of fitness and physical ability to literal manlet loser faggots in modern/contemporary philosophy? (kant, sartre, russell, etc...) really sad.