>It's not the destination, but the journey
I hate this phrase. Does anyone have any clever way to shut people up when they spit out this platitude? When I pick an objective or a goal it's because I want it more than anything else, everything else is a distraction or a necessary evil.
What can I reply do to make people stop insisting on this shit?
It's not the destination, but the journey
choke them out, knock em over, thumbs on eyeballs. Don't push in, that's too far, but goddamn is it a powermove.
Seems like a slight overreaction, also doesn't help me if I'm not in proximity where I can get my hands around their throat. Maybe something more verbal and less violent is more applicable here? Nevertheless, you're contributing, I like that.
People start a journey to reach a destination. If you never reach the destination, starting the journey in the first place is rather pointless.
It's genuinely good advice because it prevents suicide from obsessed people like yourself who find out they can never reach their goal, because they are failures at everything
They'll shut up and never say it again, what's to lose?
Yeah but morons like this guy will tell you the journey will be more important, or reveal surprises along the way, even though whether or not I see a spotted bluejay on the drive to work isn't nearly as important as getting to work so as to earn a salary so I can live and enjoy life.
It's not so much the spotted bluejay as it is the old lady in front of you that you honked and raged at because you're a piece of shit wagie, that you should learn from. It's okay though, not everybody is conscious of their lives. Like retards and downies.
The purpose of the journey is to have fun and do new things. There is no set destination. I'm driving through random places seeing if anything is fun there.
Whoa whoa whoa, someone is fucking triggered by a platitude here. Why would anyone do that? Why are you so arrogant? What do you achieve with your life?
You should pick achievable goals then.
Life isn't a game unfortunately, and goals often fail to materialize. You just experience a series of events that seldom have any kind of resolution or reward. You fail to learn anything. It's unsatisfying.
The platitude is only there to spare you the truth. You will rarely get what you want, and obsessing over uncertain destinations that you believe you can reach is a waste of time. Enjoy the journey or prepare to be severely disappointed. All the time.
When you're on a road trip you might hit the Grand Canyon or you may hit Disneyland. Keep going in different directions and eventually you'll hit something interesting.
Sneer in disgust and tell them life isn't a movie
user, one day you'll have to realise that the person that you are now is the group of choices you have been making in your life. It is not that you shouldn't look at the trophy, but rather that you should pay attention at the road you are taking, because it may not lead you to where you want.
Life is an adventure. How is that disgusting? I don't know why I should care about success when my parents provide for me. Seems pointless desu.
>You should pick achievable goals then.
I do, like let's say for the sake of argument I want to build a kitchen - the destination is to cook in that kitchen - not the journey of pleasure of construction, that's incidental, if it happens at all. The purpose/destination is to have a kitchen that satisfies certain criteria that I designed and built it for so I can cook the way I want (i.e. let's say I want lots of benchspace so I can prepare lots of different complicated parts of meals all at once).
>Life isn't a game unfortunately, and goals often fail to materialize.
True but doesn't that make the 'destination' even more imperative, if life is full of disappointments shouldn't we maximize our achievements?
>You just experience a series of events that seldom have any kind of resolution or reward
>You fail to learn anything
Life is random though, sometimes you can't learn from things because there is no lesson, there is no observable, repeating patterns that can be compared against future or past events. Shit is sometimes totally random.
>You will rarely get what you want, and obsessing over uncertain destinations that you believe you can reach is a waste of time. E
Isn't it foolish to hold onto the hope that somehow in the failure to achieve your goal some silver-lining will come out of it? Why not just get better at maximizing your chances of success?
Nothing is certain? Okay. So why not just zero in on what is probable rather than wait for something even LESS certain: happy accidents.
Don't get me wrong, I understand the power of looking back and reflection, but I think it's a necessary evil, not a imperative.
Or the hundreds and hundreds of miles of desert in between....
Your post effectively boils down to "sometimes you're going on the wrong way". I'm insulted you think I haven't obsessed over this notion already, more to the point I don't like your use of a trophy analogy because trophies are just decorative signalers of some 'achievement' rather than utilitarian things.
If you set a destination, the destination holds some salience - if you're on the wrong path to that destination, you change the journey and remember what your destination is and why: because of the utility, the thing you want to 'do' once you reach that destination, the thing it facilitates.
You know what, I actually thought about it while I was making food.
If you're frustrated, then that frustration should be driving you to act.
I think this is something almost no one knows how to do, be angry in a constructive way. Because most people think anger is just interpersonal outbursts of physical violence.
That's not the case.
The gut wrenching sensation that accompanies the certain knowledge that things are wrong, that's your check against inaction and complacency. It should be moving your hands to solve your problems.
I think people who hate being angry can't dare to be ambitious.
So I don't really know what you want. If you want lofty goals and to get there without experiencing intense frustration, it's not possible.
My previous post still stands, but that's the no mad route. That's what you see from people like me who absolutely detest being angry.
And in the desert you can see the cacti, see the red colored rock formations, adventure, explore.
Yeah... maybe I didn't express myself properly. I don't like it when people say the journey is the destination, because obviously I picked the destination for a reason - it was the simplest way of getting what I wanted.
Life isn't like the Wizard of Oz, you don't find out you had courage all along, sometimes you find out that you've gone on a journey and it was wrong - I agree with you - turn that anger energy into something constructive - but that's off the point:in that case the journey was most certainly not the destination in that case. That doesn't mean I, or anyone, in such a situation should REEE and rant about how far off course they've gone or were never no the right course to begin with, they just got to reorient, realign, make up for lost time (if possible).
And what if I wanted to go to Disneyland because I have a car full of 5 year olds who wanted to see Goofy and couldn't give a flying fuck about cacti, the vastness of the earth, the beauties sculpted by erosion, they just want to ride the teacups and see Goofy because they're fucking 5.
Sometimes, if not most times, the destination IS the destination, and so for a reason.
I used to want to be a fightee pilot then I realized how much studying, working out, disciplinary shit Id have to do. I thought of this phrase then thought about if the journey was more important than the destination, why the fuck would i spend 95% of the journey with all that shit? The destination must be really shitty then. Definitely not worth it. Just spend more time experiencing the world through people and places in the most relaxed manner you can, whether it be nightwalks or browsing r9k
Welp... my destination was to try and find a witty retort that could undermine this platitude. It was a simple goal, instead I got a bunch of unconvincing vague arguments about hypothetical situations where some unexpected event might potentially be more desirable than some hypothetical intended destination.
Not only did I fail to get my witty retort to this cliched saying, I come to realize how much I had wasted my time on this journey. Even after trying to second guess myself "wouldn't it be ironic if I learned something, thereby proving the platitude?" but I didn't. It would be nice to be wrong.
While I'm surprised that r9k really isn't as cynical as I thought they were (hence why i could count on you for some support), it's disappointing that they are just as suckered into these meaningless platitudes as normies, platitudes of no actual utility or guidance in real life rather than a soothing mental pacifier for when things don't go to plan, as opposed to a fist-aid kit to get things going right again.
I've learned nothing, and feel poorer for it.
OP out.
True if you have kids. Maybe it's different for me because I score very high on openness and don't have kids or a wife or anything like that. I don't have goals other than to have fun, explore, and do new things.
I don't have a destination. I just have a journey that keeps going until I die.
What if you don't have a job to get to?