Is there any actual way to stop depression?

This is unironically 100% true, like obesity depression is a self inflicted problem

That is completely bullshit bro. Some people have a genetic propensity for chemical imbalances in the brain which can lead to mental illness or depression, it's not always just 'go for a run in the forest bro', some people are genetically predisposed to chemical imbalances which no amount of lifestyle changes are going to cure.

predisposed means exactly what it does and refutes your own point.

No, it doesn't, some people are pre-disposed as I said, where lifestyle or life experiences can trigger it, other people are destined to get it regardless of what they do, in the same way your genetics will dictate the colour of your hair or your height, they also dictate how your brain functions and the amounts of neurotransmitters and chemicals that it produces and utilises. For some people, they will get mental illness or depression regardless of what they do, it's basic biology.

that's not what predisposed means you fag

Holy shit read my first post again you moron. I say some people have a genetic propensity (aka they can't control it and it's going to happen), and I say some people are genetically predisposed. They mean two different things you brainlet. The first one means it's going to happen regardless, the second one means they are predisposed to having it triggered at some point.

Yeah you go ahead and believe that. You will never make it with that mentality.

Yeah genes are one thing but if you manage to train the mind and improve your mentality, you can overcome that shit.

Life is suffering bro, just choose a meaningful way to suffer and depression will no longer paralyze you. Get after it

I'm not even close to depressed, nor have I ever been, I'm calling out this 'it's just lifestyle bro' mentality that people bring up every time someone says they're depressed.

And yeah, like how someone can just overcome their height of 5'2 right, just improve your genetics bro, you can overcome it.

Once customizable hologram waifus hit the market, depression will be a thing of the past.

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anyone else know since childhood youre just gonna suicide eventually

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It’s about being optimistic in the future and never doubting your abilities or your potential to grow and become better.
Also if you’re confident about hopping on pills, then try taking st. John’s wort first. It’s a herb with antidepressive properties with much milder side effects compared to pharmaceutical grade medication, and it has been shown in studies to treat light to moderate depression more than placebo.
t. Fellow bearer of depression

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Oh yeah.

At this point depression is just my personality but trying to get past it.

"just stop bein sad lul"

A lot of people on this board think that because they overcame their bad habits that held them back and had some form of success because of that, everything is else is also doable by the right mindset...

"worked for me, so my problems are exactly comparable to yours" - absolutely retarded

Yes, obesity leads to depression and depression leads to obesity, it fuels each other in a vicious cycle
Some get dealt a rougher genetic card and I am one of them, it means it is harder but the amount of hopeless cases are probably way less than you think, your attitude is defeatist, beta, pathetic and disgusting, stop spreading your poison or just end yourself

I have the same thing dude

I have a good life, good job, girlfriend , enough money, family is ok and good social life

but for weeks at a time I will feel like shit, hate myself, want to die, feel upset at slightest little thing

I mostly hide this from everyone

basically I try to keep the best baseline I can, good sleep, good diet, exercise ... also have found CBT app is helpful .. even then it doesn't seem to go away ever

Try cutting out sugar completely and go for a fasting regimen, I was in a way worse place than you and I still get anxiety but my baseline has improved greatly

>other hobbies outside lifting
GOD DAMMIT

I've noticed that fasting for a few days (36-72hours) helps my mental health quite a lot, makes me reevaluate.

I picked up indoor vegetable gardening, there is something primal and rewarding about planting your seeds and watching and caring for the plant until it grows up and produces fruit or whatever it is you can use the plant for, it really is the perfect male hobby but largely stolen and perverted by women

It's all in your head, just stop thinking sad. It's really that simple
t. Not been depressed for 3 years after a bout that kamikazied my academic and social life

I was thinking of growing shrooms, but currently don't have the space. And apparently you can't even grow chanterelles, since they require a tree for symbiosis.

OP, find a creative outlet, something you can grow in and develop a talent. It’s helpful to have a way to manifest your frustration. Take it out of your head and turn it into something physical. That way you can analyse it, learn from it, get a clear picture of your life and your desires. Art is hard work and self reflection. But it can act as an exorcism of negativity. It pulled me out of depression. But i think the essence of it, lies in doing something for a bigger cause than yourself. Get to be humbled by nature and the world. Depression is a prison of your ego. Step out of it by just moving around. Don’t stagnate like a stranded ship. It takes immense effort, but it will work, I promise you. Just find a discipline that you love in which you can grow and that you can share.

Precisely, fasting is the only true detox for both body and mind, forget faggy juice cleanses with gay fruits and imported shite. Fasting promotes autophagy where damaged cells are eaten up and replaced with new healthy cells, it creates more stem cells, it creates more growth hormone, it lowers your insulin resistance and eats away at your fat.

wow its just that simple guys !!!!! i am saved now thank you

oyster mushroom is one of the most easily cultivated mushrooms and grows on things from just straw to dead wood and has a taste somewhere in between chantarelle and regular button mushrooms

There may be a new medication coming soon, which could be a new breakthrough. It is a nose spray with ketamin as the ingredient. Alternatively, you could get ketamin directly and low dose. It is supposed to be really helpful against depression.

Yeah, I know. I'll look into that more closely when I move to the new place. Especially if it has cellar space.

This

>feeling horrible
>usually aware of periods of horrible depression and anxiety, they come and go, can be triggered by anything but they usually abate after a while
>was in a horrible one that seemed to be going on for too long, thoughts turned to suicide all the time, incredibly painful feelings of tension in chest region and uneasiness would only go away when imagining a suicide

>had a sibling who I finally unloaded some feels too
>they said they suspected it for a long time, but were incredibly happy I could trust them, and gave me some advice
>for the past few days I've had a like a baseline of feeling ok that I haven't had in a long while

Not everyone has a family member or person they can trust to talk to but if you do- make use of it.

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Microdose with mushrooms

>tfw my depression is bouncing back right now
I fucking hate it. I have had this shit for over 7 years, and just now in the last two years I've finally managed to maintain it and actually be happy.
However due to stress from studying in a new unfamiliar area where I have NO ONE to talk to, I can feel my anxiety and depression coming back (the only time I'm outside my apartment is when I'm attending lectures, shopping groceries or lifting)
The obvious solution is to get new friends here but it takes a while.

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I felt like talking to people usually helps. Even if you have friends online you can confide in. Otherwise advice like

Why don't you watch Neon Genesis Evangelion? I looks like Shinji is less depressed in Rebuild of Evangelion.

Go to a baptist church and tell the pastor what you’re going through. They’ll help you out and you’ll socialize

>ITT: people who don't understand the difference between being depressed and being unhappy.

It happens lad. I've been fighting mine for over 15 years now. When I moved away I felt homesick, and I realised being homesick felt a lot like the old depression creeping back. I've been away from home for half a decade now and while making friend etc helps, part of me still thinks I'd have been happy if I'd stayed closer to my family and friends.

It does get better. But depression comes and goes, often for years at a time. I have accepted I'll be battling it all my life.

Partly true to be honest, this vague concept of constant happiness people strive for is not sustainable in any human with a normal set of chromosomes, the feeling that you should strive for is contentedness and once that is achieved you can try to chase meaning

I highly recommend this book to any user struggling with depression. We're all gunna make it boys.

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>Have a problem? Go and fix it!
>Sort your life out and you'll be happy
>WORK OUT WHAT'S MAKING YOU """"DEPRESSED""""!! xDD
This works for unhappiness. It doesn't work for depression.

Anyway, OP: exercise works better than most remedies. If all else fails, go for the meds.

>coming to Jow Forums for mental health advice
Are you out of your God damn mind? However, meds don't magically solve everything. Think of it as using your elbows when you fall over falling face flat. I've been taking SSRI for 6 years and it only helps slow down the racing thoughts/suicide thoughts. Everything else took years of therapy and reaching out for help.
Here's my advice OP: REACH OUT FOR HELP. SEEK A GOD DAMN COUNSELOR OR MENTOR. TALK TO YOUR FRIENDS ABOUT THIS. Humans are social for a reason.

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From experience I say avoid the meds like the plauge. The doctors see your depression as a chemical imbalance and prescribe medicine to sort out the imbalance but the problem is like so much in medicine it is a guess, and in the case of these medicines the risk of bad effects are too high in my opinion, it is not like taking antibiotics.

Problem is the field is filled with mentally ill women suffering from a helping-complex and heavily left-leaning types, they tend to play down your real problems in the physical world and physical health and often affirm narcissistic people into being more of a pain to their surroundings. Be sure to get an experienced male counselor with his own life in order.

This too. There is no shame hopping around with counselors because they aren't helping you progress. Don't stop till you find a damn good one that you like.

This
Also get a vitamin blood panel done. I'd bet you have a vitamin D deficiency

>don’t browse Jow Forums
I can kinda confirm this. I stopped browsing this place for a year and that's the last time I was genuinely happy despite being a fat unproductive fuck. Now I do/have everything in that list and I still feel miserable.

meds will give you enough of a break from feeling like shit to get back on the horse.

>I'm going to purposely reject the idea I can be happy and cement in my head that it's not even possible so in the event I actually try to stop being a victim-mindsetted self loathing pathetic faggot, and inevitably fail, my ego won't be damaged
gonna be a yikes from me dawg. kek. imagine being a biological male in 2019 and whinging about le depression :( :( awww nnoooo

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>imagine being so dense you think you could overcome an illness that has mostly genetic causes simply by thinking.

the analogy here would be thalidomide victims trying to concentrate limbs on their body.

kek you just reek of raging loser.
>B-B-BUT DEPRESSION IS CAUSED BY GENETICS EVEN THOUGH DEPRESSION WAS LARGELY GLOBALLY UNHEARD OF UNTIL RECENT TIMES
is it a coincidence that all of a sudden masses and masses of people are now self diagnosing depression? being an annoying sad cunt that nobody wants to associate with. read this post you sad dweeb like I give a fuck about you and your mental gymnastics trying to dance around the fact you are too much of a pussy to fix your life. your identity is now being sad and bitter. shame for you

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false equivalence you sad powerless defeated little man

Ashwagahnda, St. John's wort, and modafinil.

My stack and I feel like I don't wanna kill myself every day.

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Try suicide

BASED

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>full time job
Yeah, wageslaving every day makes me so happy.

>social life
You mean hanging out with normies and feigning interest in stupid shit like niggerball?

>routine exercise
Truth.

>other hobbies outside lifting
Truth.

>clean diet (not in a deficit)
Truth.

>get sunlight
Truth, plus vitamin D anyways.

>wake up early every day
Truth.

>8 hrs sleep
6 hours for men, 7 hours for women, 8 hours for the fool.

>don’t be deficient in minerals
Don't even know what this means.

>hydration
Tea and water are the only acceptable drinks.

>have long terms goals which you progressively work towards
Debatable.

>have a sex life
Truth.

>don’t browse Jow Forums
Wrong. This place is amazing to talk about whatever autistic interest you have. The problems occur when you browse /b/ and /gif/ every day.

>don’t be fat
Truth.

>no stimulants, depressants or uppers
Unclear. How about just no Jew pharma drugs.

>stop consuming and social media like it’s lifeblood
Truth. Just delete it all. Life is much better.

Embrace Stoicism, Op

>have all of this except a sex life
Being asian-american is pure suffering. If any of you every feel sad, just remember you are not an asian-american male. It will pick you right up.

Set yourself goals and reward yourself for achieving milestones. It will not cure your depression, but it will give you the drive to get out of bed in the morning and the sense of accomplishment will help your general well-being. Every morning I wake up with energy, determined to work on my projects and get a step closer to achieving my goals. Of course I still have bad moments, but I feel a lot better now.

Here is the thing: You don't need a reason to be depressed. You're confusing it with being sad or upset about something. You can have an objectively great life, no complaints whatsoever and still feel depressed. Our minds and bodies don't always react rationally and that is something that is out of our control. Take social anxiety for example or other phobias. Most of the people that suffer from them know very well that their reaction or fear in certain situations is irrational and yet they start panicking with all the physical symptoms too.

Shrooooooms.

Anons, you might just help me. I was going to make a thread but I was afraid some stupid fucking janny/mod would delete it, even if it is related to lifting and how it impairs shit.

How do you deal with hatred and anger when you've been unfairly fucked over? I mean serious shit. There's some people I'd completely fucking kill if I could, because they fucked and fuck me over constantly, and make my life hell. But this hatred is only hurting me, not them.

What do I do?

What's the alternative? I can't afford a therapist and Jow Forums is one of the worsts boards on this site, filled with garbage advice from numales, incels or women who have no idea of the garbage they talk about.

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Hate fuels gains. Lift till you're exhaused a few days a week, until you're too tired to even hate people. It worked for me. It's not ideal, but it helps

I end up with my body tired but my mind still riddled with hate, which infects my whole persona.

Thought about finally going on meds. Working out, eating right just doesn't do anything for me anymore. I have too many mental problems and nothing else has worked. I'm constantly depressed, I get distracted all the time. I tend to come up with weird scenarios in my that will never happen irl, I get attached with any woman that shows me just a little bit a attention, but at the same time I have a hard time connecting with people and making friends. Every day is just misery.

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Embrace and move on and rise above, make your own closure and look to the future

>You mean hanging out with normies and feigning interest in stupid shit like niggerball?
Just find people who share your interests.

You have to let the anger flow away user, i know they might deserve hell but the path you are taking will only end in your doom. Let the river flow user

>inb4 he shoots up a school

Dealt with intermittent waves of depression. Here are some non cookie cutter tips.

>Fermented food daily and low processed sugar diet. Lots of info coming out on the link between the gut biome and mental health
>As others have said, fasting is incredibly useful for autophagy and promoting healthy gut bacteria.
>Establish yourself in an organization you give a fuck about.

>Take social anxiety for example or other phobias.
Not real, all part of the victim generation. Special snowflakes who are weak of will or lack character from being coddled their entire lives, you really expect a diagnosis for that? Everyone has anxiety its just those who are more affected are usually inherently weak themselves, no diagnosis needed unless they use mental health as an excuse not to take responsibility for themselves

I've noticed those on Jow Forums tell you to put absolute trust in pharmacology and medical professionals, really quite jarring when you compare it to the rest of the site.

Thanks, anons. But how the fuck do you do it?

Shit. I'm exactly like this, without adding or removing. Worse, I'm also considering going on meds also because of O CD. What do you call that? Depression?

Also, aren't you worried about sex drive? Even though I have nos ex at all, for some reason I also worry a lot about losing sex drive.

Lots of non-pharma solutions - check out "chronotherapeutics".
For instance, "Sleep phase advance"
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/227056

"In a phase-shift experiment, a depressed manic-depressive woman was twice brought out of depression for 2 weeks by advancing her sleep period so that she went to sleep and arose 6 hours earlier than usual."

Yes, but you won't like the answer.
You take responseability for your life. And the first responseability you have, is figuring out what the fuck that actually means. Good Luck. Your journey out of depression will lead you through many books and workouts.

>simply by thinking.
And that's your issue. Your trying to think your way out of this with a brain that has done all the wrong thinking so far. And when someone lists several activitesi, stuff to DO not Think, you still think you have to think about it. You want some idea to be the soltion, to think something which will take control and do all the hard work for you. Though luck, you're gonna have to do that hard work yourself.

Yup.
It's easier to act your way into a new way of thinking, than think your way into a new way of acting

Life is suffering, what gives meaning to it and makes it bearable is the responsibility you have to yourself and the ones around you to make the best of youself and your life. It doesn't get easier but moping about it all day won't help either. Get up go out there and conquer.

Let me give some first-hand experiences with depression medication.

I started taking 20mg of Lexapro daily because I could not stop thinking constantly about how I didn't want to be alive. It made the thoughts go away, but it also made me content with living a sub-par life with bad habits and no self-improvement. I took it for over 4 years, ended up dropping out of university 2 years in because I wasn't motivated enough to attend class. I ended up living at home as a NEET for a while until I decided to wean myself off over the course of months, since the withdrawals are apparently god-awful.

I started to realize how many responsibilities I've been putting off and how much of a burden I was to much parents. I slowly regained the motivation to improve my life. I started by getting a job, started paying off student loans that I was missing payments on due to just not caring (I made enough to pay minimum by working on mTurk), and I started to eat healthier, going from 210lbs at 6'2 to 170lbs.

The depression is coming back though, and the thoughts about not wanting to lie are emerging again. I think antidepressants are a good tool, you just have to realize how they work and what kind of effect it will have on your mind and body. If you feel like shit and want to die, do anything in your power that seems like it might help. Don't let retards who are afraid of modern medicine dictate what you do to improve yourself.

Meditate

Ayahuasca

>have a sex life

Welp.

Reestablish your connection to God through prayer. If you haven't been baptized, go and get baptized. Pray, and ask for guidance through these troubled times. God won't let you down

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A cock ball torture app?

I have all this and I still find no satisfaction in existence, what do?

Leave the city.

It won't magically fix your life but it's a basic way to avoid the constant stressors that you're clearly not able to withstand.

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If you take antidepressants your cock will stop working and youll be even more depressed

Depression is just poor physical health. Healthy body, healthy mind.

Diet and exercise cure depression.