What's wrong with teenage smoking, really? besides the lung cancer shit...

what's wrong with teenage smoking, really? besides the lung cancer shit. are there any mental deficits that can come from it?
i started last year and not only has my academic performance improved but my anger issues are settling as well as focus improving.
is there anything genuinely wrong about a cig?

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nah it just fucks up your lungs.
but who need them anyway right eh? when we breathe all this shit around us.

What's wrong with teenage smoking is that you'll be craving it for the rest of your life.

So good luck with denying yourself from now on. It's either that or poor cardiovascular health and cancer risks.

>what's wrong with teenage smoking, really?
Smoking before 19~ greatly increases your risk of lifetime addiction.

>is there anything genuinely wrong about a cig?
If you're okay with the consequences not really, just keep in mind that it's the biggest cause of erectile dysfunction for men under 40.

cold turkey quit when you're 30 and you'll be alright. If you don't you risk dying in your 50's-60's

I was going to question whether or not you were under a rock when they were explaining this in school, but I guess they've eased off the anti-smoking propaganda for a few years now and also I am getting old.

Stunts your growth, asthma source, carcinogenic source, impotence, drains your wallet, shitty and cheap high.

Just do coke.

i only smoke during exams and their preceding days because tobacco is a great stimulant.

100% chance of turning you into a faggot. Beware

> Smoking before 19~ greatly increases your risk of lifetime addiction.
Probably more a function of the sort of people who smoke that early.

You may lose the respect of potential friends/partners because I certainly don't hold anyone who needs a crutch in high regard.

I'm sure there are exceptions, but if someone can't stop themselves from doing something they know is self-defeating, it reeks of pathetic.

fpbp

I think the problems are genetic.
>dad started smoking early and none of that filter crap - still a leafblower lung
>same for me
>friend smokes for a couple of months - he starts violently coughing up mucus, lost half his weight, even docs don't know what's wrong

You mean aside from the lung cancer, throat cancer, tongue cancer, fucked up teeth, fucked up skin, fucked up hormones, shitty circulation and subsequent necrosis in your extremities, the smell, looking like a faggot sucking on a tiny dick and the chemical and mental addiction? Oh, nothing. Don't worry about it. It's only a couple hundred bucks a month, not like that's going to cut into your meager earnings (if any).

It retards your lung growth and will affect the rest of your life. You will be a lunglet.

And also ED and stunted growth.

> besides the lung cancer

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Well clearly you'll find an excuse not to quit whatever we tell you since you started your thread with excuses already. So go ahead, penis appreciator.

Can anybody clear up how the likelihood of cancer actually works in regards to smoking cigs?

I heard that it doesn't matter how you space out your cigs. You can smoke 30 on one day once a month or 1 per day for the month you end up with the same chances of getting cancer.
Basically everytime you breath in that smoke you have a super tiny chance of developing cancer and your chances only depend on the total number and nothing else.
Sounds like broscience, but i'm not sure

What's hard to understand about it? You said it yourself:
>Basically everytime you breath in that smoke you have a super tiny chance of developing cancer
Take the following with a grain of salt, as I am not a biologist or anything; I just know a bit about stochastics.

From my understanding, if a cell comes into contact with cancer-inducing substances, there's a certain chance of that cell being "corrupted". When this cell multiplies, its descendants also have a (pretty high) chance of being corrupted. If cells were immortal, you'd have an exponentially growing number of cancer cells. Keep in mind that millions of cells come into contact with those substances during a single breath of smoke; the chance of developing cancer would approach 1 if it weren't for the limited lifetime of cells.
Since cells eventually die off, they stop reproducing. If a cell becomes corrupted, but dies before it can multiply, you won't notice any ill effects. This, along with the relatively low multiplication rate of individual cells in adults, leads to the long time it takes to actually develop noticeable signs of cancer.

I'll pull some numbers out of my ass to illustrate. They might be off by a few powers of 10 but you'll get the idea.
Let's say during a single breath, 100,000 = 10^5 cells come into contact with cancer-inducing substances. The chance of a single individual cell becoming corrupted when it comes into contact with these substances is 10^-9 (meaning, if you took an almost-infinite number of cells, one billionth of them would be cancerous afterwards). The chance that exactly one of those cells becomes corrupted (and the other 99,999 don't) is 10^-9 * (1 - 10^-9)^(10^5). That's basically 0.
The chance that AT LEAST one cell becomes corrupted is the same as the chance that "not none" are corrupted. 1 - (1 - 10^-9)^(10^5), that's a few orders of magnitude higher and roughly equal to one thousandth of a percent.

>besides the lung cancer shit

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I thought that I could quit whenever I wanted and here I am, struggling to quit 15 years later.

The chance of EXACTLY one K breaths of smoke giving you corrupted cells, assuming the number of exposed cells N and the chance p of an individual cell being corrupted stay roughly constant, is:
((1-p)^N)^(K-1) * (1 - (1-p)^N)
I don't smoke, so I don't know how often you drag on one cigarette, and how many cigarettes per day are "normal", so here are some more asspulled numbers:
10 puffs per cig, 5 cigs per day.
So someone who has ON AVERAGE 50 puffs a day, that adds up to 50*360 = 18,000 puffs a year (no point in being too precise), or 90,000 in 5 years.
Plugging the numbers into the above equation:
p = 10^-9
K = 90,000
N = 100,000
gives you a chance of about a millionth of a percent. Not too bad.
The problem is that you also need to consider the (much more likely) scenario of MORE than one puff giving you cancer. Obviously, this reduces N for subsequent puffs (since a corrupted cell won't suddenly gain double cancer). N is further reduced as cancer cells eventually die off. On the other hand, I am also ignoring the fact that the number of cancer cells does not stay constant over time (as they themselves multiply even if you quit smoking after getting cancer). Don't quote me on this, but I'm reasonably certain that corrupted cells also influence healthy cells in a similar way as the carcinogenic substances do.