College

Is college worth it bros? Last semester I was a CS major and now I’m chem engineer major. I fucking hate this, it’s so much shit at once and have a job at the same time that makes me even more stressed. I just want a career that makes me happy and makes me money. I still want an education though because I know I can do it, just a lot of stress. Not to mention the look everyone will give you when you say you’re not in school anymore because you want to be a woodworker/craftsman.

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I'm an electrical engineer with sub-normal IQ relative to engineers as a whole. If you find that everything is a massive struggle, sometimes it's good to re-evaluate your goals and aim for something that isn't too far above your station in life.

Take from that what you will. I'm not saying dropping out is wise; it probably isn't. But when it comes time to find work, just know that being in a position for which you just aren't mentally qualified is exhausting and ruins your mental health. I will never be the same well-adjusted person I was before I pushed myself through this tract; don't ruin yourself.

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I just go to a whatever dumb college to appease my parents, hoping that I manage to make it in the music industry before I finish college.

Digital Media Major CS Minor; I had to work through college to afford it and I was able to go to a really cheap in-state college, my entire tuition was around 30k for my undergrad.

IMO it was worth it, before doing entry level work i made around 13-15$ hourly full time office type stuff. Now that I have a degree I sit at around 33$ hourly salaried and ive been out of school for about 2 years now. for me it was well worth it cause I'm making bank doing what I want to do.

I got really really lucky and found what I wanted to do early so I was super focused through college, and there is always a tradeoff between doing what you want to do and what can you afford to do.

if you want to be a craftsman you need to find a way to turn a profit on it if you plan to make it a livelihood; just because you are passionate about something doesn't mean to can live on it, at least out of the gate.

Depending on your craft, you may be able to find a trade school that specializes in your particular area, consider looking for apprenticeship opportunities. Look in state and out of state.

You shouldn't have to sell your soul to make a living, but don't delude yourself that you can make a career out of something without some sort of training either academically, professionally, or at the bare minimum self-taught.

How is electrical engineering? In terms of difficulty?

It's a large field. I think industrial isn't so bad and can approach a trade if you focus on that. Coding bores me and I actually can't stand to be around coders because they're a bunch of star wars loving manchildren who still argue about apple v Microsoft in 2019.

I am in the RF (radio frequency) field. The stuff I do isn't hard, in fact it's laughable, but as I said, I have a sub-normal IQ for an engineer. An intelligent person might struggle with RF because it can get very complicated.

>Not to mention the look everyone will give you when you say you’re not in school anymore because you want to be a woodworker/craftsman.
What? That sounds absolutely based. Whoever hates on woodworkers/craft people should be shot.

>CS
>chemical engineering
stem is soul sucking. logistics is both autistic and easy, just do that

>the look everyone will give you when you say you're not in school anymore because you want to be a woodworker/craftsman
go and apprentice with a contractor so you can learn how to use the tools and then try to find a furniture maker you can learn from

>chem engineer major
i know that feel user
it's the fucking worst

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>is college worth it
Yes, if you want to be mediocre and well paid.
No, if you are skilled, disciplined, and intelligent. You're better off taking the risks on your own without the debt

Im a law and justice major, course work is easy, and all professors in the department are based and redpilled from decades on police work. It was a natural progression from milfag to this

You do you, OP. I was able to handle a 20-25hr/week job and full loads of classes (12-16 credit hours) every semester and while it was challenging I never thought it wasnt worth it or impossible to achieve. I also had a girlfriend (wife now) and friends that I'd spend time with almost daily. I wasn't into working out back then, however.
So what this guy says makes sense. Not everyone is cut out for STEM, and anything that isn't engineering or tech pays shitty most of the time.
FWIW, I'm amazed by anybody that can build fix or craft anything from a door or table to even be able to do car maintenance or anything of that sort. And they'd be just as amazed by the shit I can do too

What about accounting?

How does it pay

>CS major
The girls leaks just hearing that

I was in the same situation. Chem E, worked 25-30 hours a week at a deli, racking up huge debt, always jealous of my happy go lucky peers. Constantly tired, afraid, and stressed. Now I make $80,000 a year as a 23 year old. If you can really believe in yourself and that starting salary, you can do anything. Definitely worth it and would do again.

Just got accepted to medical school, IM (easiest specialty) would give me 300k+ a year working every other week. Do medicine

Honest question. Why do people still stick to the 8 semester, 4 year graduation mindset? I figured it would be a much better system for everyone involved if the standard model for college was more like doing it for six years while working consistently and taking advantage of other opportunities, not walling yourself off in academia for the duration.

I know when my kids go to school I'm going to recommend they take their time and focus more on work than school, maybe doing 9 credit hours a semester or something.

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Biomed fag here, taking 16 credits and working 30 hrs/week. The key is time management and discipline. I’m posting this while waiting for the bus, I don’t spend all day browsing Jow Forums. Make good use of any free time you have, even if it’s less than an hour.

The other thing to keep in mind is that you only get out of college what you put in. I see so many people try to get by with the least amount of work possible, and even if they graduate they’re fucked afterwards. I went into it with the mindset that being top of the class is a zero sum game: if someone else has a higher grade than me, that means I’m not the top of the class. Because of this, my professors have mad respect for me and I’m finding it easy to line up internships and training courses at labs. This puts me at a competitive advantage relative to my peers when it comes to applying for grad school and jobs later on.

Op here, litterally at a deli, I hate it. I also hate chemistry now that I’m taking it. Should I do accounting or Econ major, seems more stress free and less difficult.

short and retarded answer: I'm doing college just for the sake of my parent's expectations.
More elaborate and mature answer: it sucks hard, I fucking hate it, failed lots of classes, and while I do have parent's expectations as pressure, deep down I fucking know if I don't do it know I'll regret it the rest of my life while working a menial job struggling to pay the fucking bills and food, living with 0 comfort and no stability.
At least I'm not american and don't have to pay for my college, imagine paying U$ 200,000.00 for something you hate lmao

There's a lot of truth in that. Just by graduating a semester past the usual I managed have a much more rewarding experience outside of college on my time off as well as inside.

I had friends who vastly outperformed me as far as time to completion. One even got a Masters in the same time it took me to do my undergrad. But instead of taking a break, doing a roadtrip or travelling with me they kept their head down. And perhaps because of it that's why they still wake up today from the nightmare that there's a test in a class they forgot to attend the whole semester.

I don't know. I'm not an accountant nor would I ever want to be one

I may be wrong but Most of the time in order to get the full amount of scholarship/financial aid money you need to be enrolled 12+ hours.

My community college says 9

So many ChemE friends here, feelsgoodman. It's hard, nobody can deny it, but if you can find a small part of it, that you actually enjoy and master it, you will have a pretty easy financial life. Good luck, even if you give up, just try to find something that you enjoy, because later in life it will be a lot harder.

I'm 27, in a few weeks it'll be five years since graduating, and I'd say it was worth it (Math/CompSci). We had a dude come in last year, and everyone on the team agreed he'd be a good fit (learned on his own, etc). Only problem was that he didn't have a degree, so even though we wanted him corp shredded his application. And that's just in my field, it's absolutely the same for other people I know in business/science/etc. That said, college was absolute dogshit and I'd never go back unless it was for something 100% unrelated to my career, like art history or some other "fulfilling" class in that vein.

> I just want a career that makes me happy and makes me money.
Do you want free blowjobs too? Just look for something that makes you money and doesn't make you want to blow your brains out. "Happy" careers are for the 0.01% who don't need college to get there, or for suckers. Literally every career path has the same tedious bullshit with people you don't like where you spend more time doing prep work than you do actually doing the thing you love. And that's assuming that as a 20-year old you know what will make you happy for the rest of your life, which is a big fucking "if".

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Also at least in the US, you only get 4 years of govt. sponsored financial aid. So poorfags feel rushed to do it in 4 years to milk that FAFSA money. All my friends take 16+ semester credits and burn out super hard

College was one of the favourite times of my life and I met so many great people, had a lot of fun and it's responsible for the research job I do which I love.

Note this took 6 months to happen for me because in my first year I talked to basically nobody and did nothing but go to class late and leave immediately. I'd later learn that people thought I was some sort of drug dealer which explained some of the questions and random party invites I'd get (Which I turned all down).

Chem eng is good money but it's so mind numbingly boring to learn and the job is boring as shit too.

Accounting it is then.

If you arent doing well then drop it now. Don’t make the same mistake I did and coast through until you get a degree. Youll just have a really expensive piece of paper. Thank god I found a good job that has absolutely nothing to do with my degree and maxes out at over 6 figures with no college education required.

>Almost done with two BS
>Garbage GPA because a mental breakdown resulted in me failing two classes
>Parents have all but given up on me since they helped heavily with tuition on condition that my grades remain good
>Zero careers lined up
>Will return to parents' town and work retail until I "get something going"
L-living the dream, right?

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literally what happened to me except they didn’t help me with tuition. After school I spent two years working 90 hours a week for a grocery store and a pet store back to back, roughly 16 hours a day 6 days a week. It was an odd time. I moved back in with my parents though it was just a place to lay my head. After work I’d do calisthenics for an hour then eat the one meal of the day (because I couldn’t afford food anyway so I just didn’t eat at work) that happened to be in the fridge. Then I’d go to bed and do it all again in 6 hours. All this just to break even on my god forsaken student loans. You’d think it was a living hell, and in retrospect it was. But in the moment I was actually too busy to care. I didn’t have time to stop and think about how fucking pathetic I was, I just had to keep working and take any overtime I could. I stopped drinking because I couldn’t afford it. In 7 months I lost 55lbs from adjusting to intermittent fasting without realizing it and the calisthenics and running I did. That ultimately saved my life because I finally got offered my job and I needed to pass a fitness test. The stars aligned and I was free.

What job is it.

I can’t tell if you’re serious or not

Not, CS people and coders in general are eternal manchildren and nobody wants to work within earshot of them.

They are less difficult and you can succeed with those degrees. Only you know what makes sense for you. My idea was to delay gratification, have a terrible time in college, and then have no financial worries for the rest of my life. Not practical for everyone and I can't say my soul escaped unscathed