Lifting for IBS

Alright, why not.
Sounds promising, thanks m8.
Do you think it had more to do with boxing being an outlet than with the actual building muscle and getting healthy part?

Look nigga, no way did you modify your diet in "every" possible way. Are you an objective scientist observing rats in a cage or a worried 2n-year-old trying to pack on as much mass as possible before your youth is gone? Start with nothing but steak + rice for two days, go from there.

I'm telling you, I tried identifying every major food or food group I consumed regularly, and eliminating it to see if it changed anything. Obviously some foods are more prone to giving me flare ups than others (trash like fast food or whatever), but no change in my diet was effective, and I've been trying for almost two years.
>trying to pack on as much mass as possible
The getting big aspect isn't actually my primary concern, I just want to fix my intestines because living like this is fucking horrible.

What about memes like
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>Immodium every day or every other day?

I tried almost a dozen treatments, not the one you specifically posted though, but prescribed medication, various supplements and probiotics didn't do shit.
Right now I've began taking peppermint oil but I have absolutely zero expectations.
Immodium fucks up my gut so no.

FAST you stupid motehrfucker

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Look if you want to try lifting, go for it, but putting yourself into a 500 - 1000 calorie deficit daily does not seem advisable until you get your gut in order.

What do you mean that immodium fucks up your gut? It should constipate you so you can go on with your life. Do you get too constipated?

I mean you could try going to someone who is an expert on the gastro system, but if you're determined to get advice on a legitimate health issue from Jow Forums here is what you do:

1) Stop drinking milk. Dairy in light amounts is probably fine, but some ludicrous amount like 90% of people who think they have IBS are really people who have developed a lactose intolerance later in life. You may have been a milk guzzler at one point, but try cutting it out for a week and see if things don't get better.

2) Take imodium, you can buy it over the counter at most places, it really helps but doesn't 100% solve the problem in extreme cases

3) Drink more water. This is just generally good regardless of IBS or not, but especially good advice if you're purging more frequently than you should, or if its less frequently.

4) Fucking kill yourself. This is fucking Jow Forums. Stop asking for medical advice here and visit a fucking doctor. What if it's not IBS? What if it's something more serious but here you are listening to me tell you to drink more water instead of starting your fucking chemo. Dumbass.

You think I didn't try that? Sure, my bowels don't act up for as long as I keep fasting, but as soon as I start eating again, everything resumes.
>500 - 1000 calorie deficit
I'd be bulking though since I'm skinny.
>What do you mean
Constipates and gives me more gas/bloating, and consequently makes my haemorrhoids flare up (nothing serious but it's painful)

I feel like this thread comes up at least three times a week. How do you not know how to shit user?

For me using psyllium husk seemed to help my IBS. My main problem with it is that I go to the bathroom multiple times a day with grossly soft shit. When I would take two psyllium pills at night I would just have one giant poop the next day.

>imagine being so retarded that you don't even know how to shit properly

>you could try going to someone who is an expert
Yeah I went to a GE, he gave me some specialized tests to run, everything came back negative. "Dude stress lmao"
>Stop drinking milk
Tried that, stopped all milk/lactose/whatever intake for at least a month, no results.
>imodium
Doesn't work for me. I don't even get diarrhea anymore even without imodium.
>Drink more water
I drink about 2 liters per day, I feel better generally (less tired) but no changes in my gut.
>What if it's not IBS
The annoying thing is that all tests came up negative. If I had something serious, it would've been detected. The only thing I haven't done is a colonoscopy, but as far as I know, nothing that doesn't show up on usual tests + specialized blood tests prescribed by a GE isn't likely to be something you can detect with a colonoscopy either, especially since the doctor said I didn't seem to have any anomalies in the gut area.
IBS is a pretty common problem, pretty sure I'm not the only one on this board who has it. It's the first time I make this thread.

When you say you tried elimination, did you follow the low FODMAP diet plan? You'll need to download the app, tells you what you can eat and how to start. I deal with the same shit and following the FODMAP diet helped because as soon as you stray from it you get the fucked gut symptoms again. Don't listen to the raw milk shill here, biggest psuedoscience naturopathy cum dribble "cure" going around

Discomfort and bloating doesn't seem to be influenced by FODMAP foods in my case, no.

To elaborate, it seems completely unpredictable.
Sure, I can be almost certain I'll get a nasty shit if I eat a greasy kebab or whatever, but whether I'm on a healthy diet (be it a diet that excludes specific foods like FODMAP, no fiber, whatever, or just something balanced) or on a relatively unhealthy diet doesn't seem to really change how my gut behaves. I'll still have constant discomfort, gas, bloating, occasional pain and intestines gurgling like bad plumbing all the fucking time.

My point is more that lifting with any intensity will increase your caloric requirements by 500 to 1000 daily, which might be hard to reach if you're having GI issues already.

Also, go get your colonoscopy. Some inflammatory bowel diseases have not other external manifestations (if you are not suffering from diahhrea, your blood cell count or other inflammatory markers would also not be elevated, despite the presence of disease).

Idk m8 but ever since I started IF my shits are pristine. Only time I have issues if when I overeat

Right. I don't mind that, I can easily eat above my maintenance, my intestines will just be more noisy and maybe a bit more gassy. At this point I don't really give a shit, especially if there are positive long term results.
>despite the presence of disease
I also got a stool/urine sample test that came back completely clean so I don't know. But yeah I should go get that colonoscopy even though I'm almost certain nothing will turn up again
My GP, the GE, and two other doctors I went to all ended up saying something along the lines of "eh it's probably stress/anxiety"

Might have missed this, but what were the results of you attempting to eat more raw, fermented foods like sauerkraut (have you tried making your own yogurt) ?

>sauerkraut
More gas, mainly.
Anything with high probiotic content including non processed yogurt didn't yield any results.

Sounds like they diagnosed you then??

Treat the stress and anxiety my man. Go see a therapist, there's no shame in it. I see one once a week for depression and anxiety.

Meds can also help, and there's also no shame there. Anyone who says otherwise has never experienced your experiences and you should tell them to fuck off.

What we've got here is someone who went to a medical professional, got tested, got the opinion of the medical professional but ignored it and is now asking Jow Forums for advice.

If the experts say it's probably from stress, then it probably is. Stress is not some untreatable condition, but it's easier to just incorporate hacksquats into your routine than it is to confront the issues in your life or in your head causing your stress/anxiety, so I get why that's your first instinct.

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I know it's tough but it's worth it. I'm sure there are plenty of good therapists in your area, its not an uncommon profession.

I mean even the physicians pretty readily admit that when they don't know what's going on, they usually pin it on stress.
I've always been an anxious wreck but the symptoms appeared only two years ago, which seems weird. Why not sooner?
Also, I don't know much about how stress can affect the body, but the symptoms seem pretty localized and specific for something exclusively psychosomatic.
Lastly, very high stress situations (compared to my "baseline" which is already high) don't really affect my gut in a different way than usual. If it were stress, shouldn't it get worse when I'm particularly anxious?

Maybe you're right though. How do you find a good therapist?
>Meds can also help
I thought benzos were the nastiest shit ever, worse than opiates in terms of withdrawal. Do you use medication?
> it's easier to just incorporate hacksquats into your routine than it is to confront the issues in your life or in your head causing your stress/anxiety
Yeah, that's true. It's not that I don't want to address those issues though, I just don't talk about them to other people.

I get that man. For me I just googled "depression therapist" and made a few calls and did some research. I knew I needed my therapist to be a dude if I was going to be fully honest with him, and not super old, then just browsed their pages. Most therapists these days have a website or are part of a local trade group where they give info about their practice.

As to the other stuff, just because stress is a frequent diagnoses doesn't make it an inaccurate one. In the meantime, it sounds like you've tried everything else so why not try this? You may also consider that seeing a therapist has all sorts of helpful effects beyond helping with your IBS.

I've never taken meds but my best friend is a jacked as fuck corporate banker with a smoking hot girlfriend and he is on like 4 types of anti depressants and anti-anxiety meds. They won't take over your life if that's what a doctor decides you need, but you shouldn't take my word on it. You should talk to a professional.

I will say that I also have IBS-D, that I still sometimes have it but not nearly as bad as before I started seeing my therapist. I also take immodium pretty regularly and that helps for me, even though it doesn't 100% relieve it.

Also, anxiety and stress manifests in different ways. For a while before mine became IBS it instead manifested with constant headaches and cold sweats. Everyone's body is different, and your body is constantly changing.

Do you go to a psychologist or a psychiatrist?
>just because stress is a frequent diagnoses doesn't make it an inaccurate one
Of course. But since I appear very high strung and tense even outwardly, it's easy to figure out I'm prone to anxiety. That's why I wondered if the doctors just used that as a pretext.
>why not try this?
Sure, I will. I'll probably have issues with my family but I should find a way.
What's the most helpful about therapy, to you? Is it just talking to someone about how you really feel?
>4 types of anti depressants and anti-anxiety meds
Shit, that's pretty heavy. Yeah I'm wary of that kind of medication because of the side effects and the horrible withdrawal symptoms, generally speaking everyone who used benzos will agree that it's best to avoid them, but some people might be able to make them work. I hope for your friend's sake that the treatment is temporary though.
>IBS-D
I used to have that one too, but for some reason the diarrhea just stopped after a while. Apparently some people alternate between different types of IBS so you might be able to stop taking imodium sometime.
>anxiety and stress manifests in different ways
Yeah, which is also why it's hard to figure out whether something is due to, exacerbated by, or unlinked to stress/anxiety.

I experience the same shit as you, I fixed it by starting smoking weed. I take a small puff right before class and it calms me down, so I guess stress/anxiety does play a role here. Just sucks to have to use it as a crutch though.

So you're almost always a bit high? Isn't that bad for college, or even in the long term?

Yeah definitely, but I just can't go through every single day with my stomach constantly making sounds. It works for now and atleast I found the cause of the problem, I think, now I'm just trying to remove it. Only using it when absolutely nessecary, like after a cheat day. I did notice however my stomach is completely fine when I'm relaxed and in my "comfort zone", so I guess I've found the underlying issue. Maybe you should try something for your stress/anxiety aswell, see if its really causing it?

I can relate, it's really annoying as shit.
>my stomach is completely fine when I'm relaxed and in my "comfort zone"
Weird, that doesn't seem to change anything for me. Even when shitposting at home my gut is all fucked up.

Vegan diet with a lot of carrots. You need to take B12 supplements, DHA and creatine.

First meal of the day, you need to eat carrots with hummus.

In every meal try to get either carrots, sweet potato or broccoli in.

I know your feel. Pretty much would go to toilet three times a day when at work. Pain would make me want to die.

Cut out milk, eggs, meat.

Hey sorry I was liftan and missed that you replied. Ill respond in case you're still here.

I see a Psychologist, he can't give me meds but he can recommend someone to do so if he thinks it would be helpful.

For me, the biggest benefit has been talking things out to someone who can nicely but firmly call my bullshit. I can rationalize like a mother fucker, and convince myself unhealthy behaviors are actually fine, but I can't convince him of that because he has multiple degrees that say otherwise.

It's just good to have someone who you can be completely 100% honest with without pretense or judgement, who you are paying to tell you what you need to hear, not just what you might want to hear.

Therapy is fucking tough though, don't go in thinking it isn't. You have to be really honest with yourself about why you are the way you are and what happened to get you there, and actually deal with (and one day move past) your trauma/anxiety/depression, rather than ignore or avoid it.

Don't listen to the user telling you to smoke weed. I smoke and it doesn't help with IBS but it is definitely one of the biggest things keeping me from being truly productive and happy.

Carrots give me gas like nothing else, except brussels sprouts and fermented foods maybe.
Why creatine though? I mean how is it linked to gut health?
>Cut out milk, eggs, meat
I've noticed that milk alone doesn't seem to really affect me, eggs and meat don't affect me at all.
I'm starting to think all IBS cases vary from person to person, since everyone has their own way of dealing with it.

There is no single solution to IBS. Lifting might help.

Is there not a medicine for IBS? I'm not sure if I have it but I do have diarrhea and lots of gas every day, was planning to visit a GP with the hope that there is some kind of medicine against it all.

Sure no problem.
I'm not very well informed, is there a real difference between the kind of therapy you'd get from a psychiatrist and from a psychologist? Aside from the prescribing drugs aspect, they seem fairly similar.
>talking things out to someone who can nicely but firmly call my bullshit.
Yeah that sounds like what I need, I'm so entangled in rationalizations that I can't tell if I'm being truly honest with myself anymore.
I want to deal with my problems, as in I want them to be gone because I feel bad pretty much all the time, but there's a notion of comfort to that kind of situation too which is why I've been such a pussy about it for years.
>Don't listen to the user telling you to smoke weed
yeah I can't afford to smoke regularly anyways
Have you not managed to stop smoking? How does it affect your happiness?
It's one of those medical conditions that a lot of people have but that can't really be treated effectively and definitively, apparently. Go see your GP and make dietary changes before anything else imo, just to see if you're regularly eating something that fucks your shit up or if there's an actual problem.

It is effecting you. When you eat meat, milk or eggs you are feeding the bad gut biome. You need to kill it off and replace it with biome that can handle vegetables, beans e.t.c.

How long did you try no meat? Did you also give up milk and eggs?

I would limit your diet to only rice, pasta, potatoes for a week. Then add in vegetables.

I tried a probiotics treatment and only eating white rice, pasta (not potatoes though) and some fruit (lemon, lime) and limiting my intake of everything else for about a month.
I didn't notice a change, when I started eating meat again I didn't feel like anything had changed. Vegetables definitely make me gassy, but that's probably just the fiber.
I usually don't drink milk or eat many eggs so I had no problem cutting on that, I only started eating them more frequently recently, since I found out I don't really have any trouble digesting them.

>Don't listen to the user telling you to smoke weed
Was just stating what helped me personally, I didnt recommend him doing this.

Lastly OP, I've been boxing for 3 years now and started weightlifting 8 months ago and for me it didnt help at all. I guess everyone responds differently so just try it, might help you.

>I've been boxing for 3 years now and started weightlifting 8 months ago and for me it didnt help at all.
Well at least getting in shape is good. Sucks that it had absolutely no effect on you though, you'd think strengthening abdominal muscles would at least help alleviate gas or something like that, idk.