FAQ /fast/ discord >discord.gg/dknZqPb What is /fast/? >Fast is a thread for the discussion of intermittent fasting, fasting, water fasting, and dry fasting.
What’s the difference between intermittent fasting, water fasting, dry fasting, etc.? >Intermittent fasting: Fasting for a certain amount of time with a short eating window. 16:8 (16 hours fasting, 8 hour eating window) is the bare minimum. >Water fasting: Fasting with only water. >Dry fasting: Fasting with no water. Dangerous, use with caution.
How do I safely do an extended fast? >Take snake juice, or just supplement electrolytes. >Water=2L >Potassium chloride =1 tsp (No Salt) >Sodium chloride = 1/2 tsp (Himalayan Pink Salt) >Sodium Bicarbonate = 1 tsp (Baking Soda) >Magnesium Sulphate = 1/2 tsp (Food Grade Epsom Salts) >Mix these in 2L of water and sip it throughout the day. >[OPTIONAL] 2 tbsp Apple cider vinegar and 4 tbsp lemon juice. DO NOT MIX with snake juice, drink separately. >You can also do this if you feel lightheaded, weak, dizzy, nauseous, etc., on shorter water fasts. Don’t do this while intermittent farting.
Won’t I go into starvation mode? >No. You won't have the willpower to fast that low.
Will (something with calories) break my fast? >Yes, you Hmong.
Can I drink coffee, tea, and diet soda? Or anything with artificial sweeteners? >You can do whatever the fuck you want. We recommend avoiding those, sweeteners especially.
huh, is this a general here? interesting. so, I've been doing 16/8 intermittent fasting for the past few weeks and I really like it a lot. I have a question regarding breaking a fast though:
I've heard that you don't want to mix carbs and fats right away (something to do with your cells taking in the fat with the carbs), but how long should I adhere to that? say I break my fast with some chicken, how long after my first meal is it safe to consume fats and carbs?
Jace Kelly
I've been drinking some bone broth and then, usually, eating some tuna with a bit of hot sauce. I fucking love it. sometimes I eat a bit of chicken too. I just started IF, so I'm still not really sure what is 'optimal', but these feels good so far.
I've also been working out towards the end of my fast for maximum fat burning and it just makes everything taste so much better.
John Murphy
>broke 4 day fast today >ate entire small dominos pizza + some beef stew and bone broth >no diarrhea just got kinda bloated and sleepy >gonna fast some more still kind of regret breaking but fuck it. lost 6 lbs in 4 days so probably like 3 pounds of fat
Dominic Cooper
I haven't eaten in days so not sure how I will respond on refeed I'm just going to eat potatoes, chicken and broccoli for a day
Jacob Evans
Reminder that the first thing cults do is starve initiates to facilitate the brainwashing process.
I still like fasting and like Cole, but don't drink too deep of the koolaid.
Daniel Martin
Am around 30 hours in, haven't fasted in ages.
The worst part is no longer the hunger, its the headache. I don't know what I'm withdrawing to, but its fucking painful.
Asher Adams
>fasted 100 hours, didn't get a single headache, didn't get dizzy, didn't feel tired
Looks like i'm gonna make it
Grayson Evans
No Salt is shit any other Potassium chloride recommendations?
Isaac Cook
For the first time? If you eat good and proper before a fast, I imagine that you likely won't have fasting issues.
Nathaniel Davis
I've been on OMAD for 10 days and I only shit every 2-3 days. I eat around 1000 calories each day and my meals include a portion of veggies. Should I take fiber supplement?
Ayden Smith
I'm doing research about intermittent fasting and strength training, and found almost no scientific article about this relationship.
How do you guys lift? Can you briefily describe what measures you take when dealing with a strength session while fasting?
Ok I just broke a fast I probably ended up eating to much but it's okay Not more than 800 calories So I might have to shit later but I don't care Feeling good
Juan Gomez
checked you should try to avoid mixing fat and carbs because carbs will spike insulin, insulin will push fat into fat cells this happens whether you're fasting or not fasting is the real cutting redpill nosalt will taste better as soon as you start depleting your potassium I've worked out fasted for a long time (from doing cookie-cutter mom-tier 16/8 IF) it does suck a bit but you get used to it. On a prolonged fast I didn't feel any different, maybe gassed out a little early on higher rep sets (5 days fasting, 4 of which I worked out normally), lifts are "intermediate" per symmetricstrength.com No, fiber is a meme, if you're not feeling constipated/bloated you're fine
Tyler Nguyen
>this happens whether you're fasting or not right, but it seems like it's particularly important to adhere to after breaking a fast. what I'm really wondering is how long after breaking my fast can I consume them without the 'exaggerated' effect? if I break my fast with some chicken, how long after is it okay to have a premier protein shake, or something?
Juan Cruz
Daily reminder that no one in /fast/ ever posts body pics because they're all 350 pound guys who don't have the willpower to eat like a normal person so they brag about starving down to 340 before they gorge up to 360 to "refeed" and these are the people ACTUALLY purporting to give advice to clueless Jow Forums kids wandering into Jow Forums POST BODY O S T B O D Y
Did anybody get a NET loss on resting dick size during fasting? like theres not a single drop of blood in that thing and I am almost embarrassed when I go to the toilet. I AM PANICKIIIIIIING
I think it's a blood thing I dont get boners anymore unless I watch porn
Owen Russell
You will have lower libido when fasting/on calorie deficit diet because the body will prioritise essential functions first.
Charles Fisher
Yeah, Jow Forums is a shit hole brimming with subhumans, what do you expect? If you want evidence for the results of fasting, check out the fasting subreddit. Inb4 >reddit Not an argument.
Leo Adams
I find the opposite to be true.
Cameron Hernandez
I'll work up some copypasta to post in the /fast/ thread along with an attractive woman so many times the same fucking questions... THIS PERTAINS MOSTLY TO EXTENDED FASTS
>Can I exercise during an extended fast? Yes you can, no you won't die, drink your snake juice to replenish electrolytes. Don't drink Gatorade, it has (a lot of) calories and the salt contents are tiny for the price, yes even the zero version
>Will I lose muscle? You won't lose more than you would on a more moderate caloric deficit, and there's reason to believe you would lose even less. Fasting spikes HGH+adrenaline, that will keep your muscles t. kept a 5 plate deadlift while doing OMAW at 6'1 210lbs for three weeks straight
>I can't find potassium, do I really need it? Potassium is NON-NEGOTIABLE. If you can't find it you're an idiot, go to the pharmacy and ask for "salt alternatives for people with high blood pressure." Yes you must get out of your house and into a brick-and-mortar pharmacy Yes you will have to talk to a stranger.
>I can't find food grade Epsom salts, should I skip the SJ altogether? Epson salts and baking soda are optional, don't skip on SJ while doing an extended fast just because you can't find Epsom salts. In any case, look for "USP Epsom salts", USP=US Pharmacopeia, which means pharma-grade
>My SJ tastes horrible and makes me want to vomit Try the barebones recipe of salt+nosalt (potassium), most people find that tolerable. Other than that, suck it up buttercup.
>Wouldn't it be better to eat a little instead of fasting? Short answer: No. Long answer: Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo As crazy as it sounds at first, NO FOOD is vastly superior to LITTLE FOOD. Long story short, eating a little will keep your insulin just high enough to lock up your fat stores, while the body sees no alternative other than reduce your metabolism to not break thermodynamic law (that's also why simple caloric deficit doesn't work). Combine this with the HGH spike you only get when fasting and the autophagy response of sweeping out your shit cells and NO FOOD comes out a clear winner. 500Cal a day deficit faggots gtfo, go find the /fat/ thread made just for you and your shit that never works
>My mom/roomate/gf/wife's-boyfriend won't let me fast, what do? Stand up for yourself, say calmly "I want to try this, I know what I am doing, I will stop if I feel bad, and I would like you to be supportive" The max I've gone is 72h I don't think I could ever do OMAW, btw I'm 300lbs 72h is literally the worst it gets, that's how long it takes for most fatties to enter ketosis (ie. when your body is actually burning fat for fuel), but after that is smooth sailing since your body is using mostly fat and there's a lot of it in you. So if you're giving up before hitting a 72, you might be just redoing the worst part of the fast over and over again. If you're inching closer to single digits bf%, long fasts are not needed and suck because your body actually thinks you might run out of fat and die.
>Won't I get nutrient deficiencies? Drink your SJ, that's what you will deplete on a long fast, other nutrients will be provided by recycling your own defective cells (autophagy)
>TL;DR lol Just try doing a 48h fast, see how you feel, you won't die or have any long-term damage done (don't you think the human body has evolved to handle 48h without food)?
>Can you briefily describe what measures you take when dealing with a strength session while fasting? ? i pick up barbell. then put down
Owen Jones
Bros I'm sick as fuck (nasty head cold), and I'm wondering if I should keep doing fasts or transition back to omad temporarily. Usually I do 2 or 3 meals a week
Julian Perry
There's tons of progress pictures in the discord. I literally just posted mines a few hours ago
Ryder Russell
ON 16:8, AT LEAST TWO DAYS.
DROP THE DOMINOS YOU ADDICT.
CAFFEINE?
NOT SHITTING IS A SIGN OF NUTRIENT ABSORPTION LEVELS. SHITTING EVERY 2-3 DAYS IS GOOD AT THOSE CALORIES, BUT I'D INCREASE YOUR CALORIC INTAKE AND START LIFTING OR SOME SHIT.
800 CALORIES IS NOT A LOT, UNLESS YOU'RE FATTER THAN AN CORN BRED PIG. AND HOW LONG WAS YOUR FAST? WAS IT LONGER THAN 48 HOURS...?
Jaxson Lewis
COULD BE KETO FLU. EAT A MEAL AND SEE HOW YOU FEEL THE NEXT DAY.
Aiden Phillips
Been doing OMAD at a 1k+ Deficit for over a month now. Is their any difference between this and if I do OMAOD but eat more?
Tyler Hill
YES, LONGER TIME IN KETOSIS.
Christopher Butler
Water fast for two days Broke it and feeling pretty good Problem is I put on three lbs of water already
I'm looking at 3 days water fast next week. Should be interesting
Ryan Green
WATER WEIGHT IS NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT. IT'S WATER. WHAT YOU NEED TO WORRY ABOUT IS IF YOU'RE A FAT PIECE OF SHIT.
Carson Torres
Before the fast 240lb After fast Weighed in at 233 Now at 236 after eating today
Liam Cook
hey guys first time i havent worked out on this 72 im gonna try and see what happens, do i still need snake juice? feeling hungrier than normal
Charles Foster
If you work up a sweat yes you need the snake juice
Kayden King
is jerking off bad?
Zachary Parker
If it hurts when you piss because you are jerking it so much like a 11 year old, then yes. If not, no. Good stress relief.
Adrian Torres
>If it hurts when you piss because you are jerking it so much like a 11 year old, then yes i thought it hurt because of keto, also how long does it takes to get into keto? im midway day 2 and pee is still normal
Jacob Taylor
Same here. t. fucked my wife just now.
Aaron Ramirez
Are you prediabetic? Up to 5 days to get into keto. Exercise if you want to get there faster If it hurts when you piss, could also be related but usually its from not drinking enough water (bladder is super acidic), some kind of disease (usually interstitial cystitis), or the beetus.
Evan Lee
Legit question:
What is the appeal of fasting for longer than 16 hours (like fasting for days) when you can just take T3 and a stimulant like ephedrine and caffeine and lose 2-3lbs of fat a week while eating whatever you want?
Literally i eat fast food every day now, especially the big king XL and i do some cardio and work out, and im losing 2-3lbs a week.
Why go through the suffering of fasting when you can just take supplements like these with no downside?
I've always struggled to understand the appeal of /fast/ and see it as a quick fix or extreme all/nothing thinking eg mental illness.
>Are you prediabetic? not at all, i have been fasting like 3 months now, im just wondering because it means my 3 days fast means fucking nothing?
Kayden Clark
Breaking my addiction to food was the most profound revelation I ever had. It's hard to explain why. Just try it, pussy. You owe it to yourself to understand.
Oliver Ramirez
>doing cardio never gonna make it
Nathan Bell
i mean i've done restricted calorie diets before like 1500 calories for about 3 months
i'd say it takes more discipline to stick to a low calorie diet than to just not eat at all
Connor Robinson
>i'd say it takes more discipline to stick to a low calorie diet than to just not eat at all and I'd say you haven't tried fasting
Hudson White
Starting my first 48 after dinner tonight and I have a couple of stupid questions:
I know I don't have to take a multivitamin, but can I? How long should 2L of snake juice last and should I drink this in addition to water or instead of water?
Blake Phillips
A few questions. I took L-theanine this morning with my coffee, and I saw that it had "rice flour" as an ingredient in it. Is this enough to break my fast? Also the magnesium supplement I've been taking say it has 1g of fiber, how about that? Thanks.
GET YOUR SNAKE JUICE AND SEE HOW LONG YOU CAN FAST. IF YOU FUCKED UP ON A MAINSTREAM DIET YOU'D BE 8 WEEKS BACK, BUT WITH FASTING YOU CAN JUST FAST A DAY AND BE GOOD. NOTHING TO STRESS ABOUT.
I ALREADY KNOW WHO YOU ARE. LEGIT QUESTION: WHY ARE YOU SO AFRAID OF FASTING? WHY ARE YOU SUCH A BIG BRAINWASHED PUSSY? YOU CAN READ HOW MANY PEOPLE FAST AND SEE ALL THE RESULTS BUT YOU STILL IGNORE THEM. HERE'S THE LINK AGAIN: instagram.com/snake_diet_wizard/?hl=en
DITCH THE DRUGS AND SUPPLEMENTS AND JUST FAST. STOP COMPLICATING THE FUCKING PROCESS.
WHY DO YOU CARE ABOUT WATER WEIGHT?
Jose Cook
>i eat fast food every day now, especially the big king XL
Yeah man sounds healthy. And we are the ones with the mental illness right?
Kayden Peterson
>I know I don't have to take a multivitamin, but can I? WHEN YOU FAST, YOUR BODY USES VITAMINS & MINERALS THAT YOU HAVE STORED IN YOUR BODY. THE MORE VITAMINS YOU TAKE, YOU PREVENT YOUR BODY FROM MOBILIZING THESE VITAMINS & MINERALS. IF YOU INSIST ON TAKING A MULTIVITAMIN, WHY? BECAUSE SOME MARKETING COMPANY TOLD YOU TO? >How long should 2L of snake juice last DEPENDS ON THE PERSON. THE 2L OF SNAKE JUICE IS A BASELINE FOR PEOPLE TO ADJUST. YOU CAN DRINK 1L, 2L, 3L, ETC.. >should I drink this in addition to water or instead of water? YOU CAN DRINK PLAIN WATER ALONGSIDE IT. YOU CAN USE SNAKE JUICE TO JUST REPLENISH YOUR ELECTROLYTES.
Caleb Wilson
Because I'm getting pretty lean but I wanna be shredded and it's hard to tell how much of what's left is fat and what's water.
Levi Hughes
16/8 is all fucking bullshit. It does not work any differently than restricting your calories.
t. been on it since January and haven’t lost a FUCKING pound
Easton White
I have taken a vow of abstinence where I'll remain a virgin for life and if I get married I'll have her bear my kids via artificial insemination, I'm sure there will be all kinds of fancy tech available then that'll help. Fuck sex, fuck intimacy, fuck this circle of desire and suffering.
Matthew Cook
how about you fast like a real man? start slowly on a 48 and work your way up to 5 days
Grayson Wood
I can't get t3 in my shithole
Christian Miller
Not even water weight? Something is wrong.
Brandon Nguyen
is it possible to get gallstones from fasting weight loss? cus i think i got gallstones from fasting weight loss
WHEN YOU FLEX DO YOU SEE YOUR STRIATIONS? I'D ASSUME IT'S FAT, SINCE THE PEOPLE THAT CAN STAY SHREDDED 24/7 WOULDN'T BE DEHYDRATED FOR THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME.
16:8 SHOULD ONLY BE USED IF YOU'RE HIGHLY PHYSICALLY ACTIVE. IF SOMEBODY IS A TOP LEVEL ATHLETE THOUGH, THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THE FUCK THEY WANT.
WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH FASTING?
YOU CAN EAT 5000 CALORIES EASY IN AN 8 HOUR WINDOW. NOW IF YOU EAT 5000 CALORIES DOING OMAW, YOU'D LOSE WEIGHT.
Nathan White
my stomach is lean but i still got man boobs what the fuck man what do i do
David Perry
START WORKING OUT, LOOK IN TO A DRY FASTING ROUTINE, AND QUIT YOUR BAD HABITS THAT COULD BE FUCKING YOUR HORMONES (DRUGS, JERKING OFF TOO MUCH, WATCHING PORN ALL THE TIME, BEING A PUSSY, ETC..). AND TRY TAKING SOME BORAX (1/16TH TO 1/8TH OF A _TEA_SPOON EVERYDAY).
Leo Howard
>BORAX what does this shit does? any routines for that? is this easy to get? is it dangerous? should i drink it with water or how? during fasting?
Jaxon Perry
IT'S BORON. FOR ME, IT BOOSTS SEX DRIVE AND GIVES ME ROCK HARD FUCKING BONERS. OPTIMALLY, JUST TAKE SOME BEFORE/AFTER YOU EAT BUT YOU CAN TAKE IT WHENEVER WITH WATER. ITS TOXICITY LEVEL IS REALLY HIGH (HIGHER THAN TABLE SALT) BUT YOU DON'T NEED MORE THAN WHAT I'VE MENTIONED.
BASICALLY, IT'S THE SAME SHIT AS BUYING BORON SUPPLEMENTS BUT WITHOUT THE 500X PRICE MARKUP. IT COSTS LIKE $16 FOR A LIFETIME SUPPLY. GET THE 20 MULE TEAM BRAND.
Liam Edwards
>gorged on refeed today >also broke 87 day nofap
These are dark days, /fast/. The only solace that I have is that this is the longest I’ve gone without ejaculating, so it’s not completely bleak.
have you had man boobs? and did that got rid of them? so i cant thake the borax while fasting? should i go omad now? and i do workout and still they are there
Juan Morris
What are other sideeffects other than headaches and withdrawals that Cole mentions while fasting? Irritability? Sleep loss? Hair loss? I’ve heard other anons talk about the latter two.
Matthew Torres
>WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH FASTING? I'm fasting from sex and stuff
Eli Smith
how long should i be fasting if i'm 180lbs at 5'7 (around 28%bf)? would alternate day fasting be ok? i'm lifting 3-4 times a week.
Grayson Evans
i have been fasting for a while i normally do 72s and i do not suffered from hair loss nor sleep loss, actually i could sleep all fucking day long i f could, and irritability well i dont know im always an asshole
Tyler Adams
YOU CAN ALWAYS RESTART FASTING AND NOFAP AGAIN. GIVE YOURSELF A REBOOT AND MAYBE STAY AWAY FROM PLACES THAT WILL FUCK YOUR STREAK UP.
I HAD A VERY LIGHT CASE OF GYNO AT ONE POINT, YES, BUT I KINDA 'OUTGREW' IT BY WORKING OUT. PROLONGED FASTING DEFINITELY HELPED WITH NORMALIZING MY TESTOSTERONE LEVELS AND BORAX PLAYED A SMALL PART, BUT NOT AS MUCH AS THE FASTING DID. YOU CAN TAKE BORAX WHILE FASTING. YES, YOU CAN START OMAD. YOU DON'T NEED MY PERMISSION, START TAKING INITIATIVE.
IT'S ALL RELATED TO WHAT YOU'VE DONE TO YOUR BODY IN THE PAST. YOUR FAT ACTS AS A SORT OF FILTER FOR TOXICANTS AND STORES SOME OF IT, SO WHEN YOU ENTER KETOSIS AND YOUR BODY BEGINS TO PROCESS ADIPOSE TISSUE, THE TOXICANTS GET RELEASED AND YOU'RE IN FOR WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOMS.
THAT'S MORE OF AN ASCETIC THING. I DON'T COMPLETELY SUPPORT WHAT YOU'RE DOING BUT IF LIVING A MONASTIC LIFE BRINGS YOU TRUE HAPPINESS, THEN SO BE IT.
HERE ARE A COUPLE OF OPTIONS THAT YOU'RE NOT COMPLETELY LIMITED TO: -YOU CAN EAT ON LIFTING DAYS AND FAST ON THE REST. -YOU CAN DO MULTIPLE PROLONGED FASTS ON SNAKE JUICE BUT YOUR LIFTS WILL STALL/DROP. THIS IS THE FASTEST WAY TO LOSE BODY FAT, THOUGH.
Gabriel Mitchell
24 hours in and I feel like I've hit a second wind almost, ive got a lot of energy. chugged a glass of salt water too. we'll see how long I can take this first fast.
Hunter Thompson
How does one get into fasting? I've tried eating less, but it ends up spiraling into a depression episode.
t. I wanna get fit but cant into
Josiah Sanders
No, you are burning fat just not as efficiently as keto. Think of it like a ratio. Days 1-3, you lose 3 lbs and 50 percent of that is muscle loss and 50% is fat loss. Day 4-6, you lose 3lbs but instead only lose 25% muscle and 75% fat.
I'm pulling these numbers out of my ass but hopefully you get the idea. Keto is a way to burn more fat so your weight loss is more efficient
Levi Thompson
It happens but only if you are losing 30lbs or more a month and even then its 50/50. Go see a doctor if you are worried, stick to ADF if you are concerned. That should be enough to keep bile production normal
Jacob Brooks
Who here /OMAW/? I eat every Sunday, feel like a million bucks the whole week, so much time saved not eating and having to take a shit. My favorite protocol out of everything I tried, perfect balance between suffering and progress
Camden Price
Instead of making my own snake juice can I just buy this? I’m lazy. Ingredients:
Can you fast and gain muscle even if it's not much, at the same time?
William Davis
If you are a beginner yes
Kevin Bennett
Is it recommended to fast when you are still developing/growing, im 19 and i know my brother kept growing until 23 so i dont want to fuck it up, can fasting stunt my growth ?
Eli Barnes
Fasting boosts HGH, so it wont stunt your growth
Jackson Gray
I managed to do 60 hours, when i woke up after 3 hours sleep i sleepwalked into the kitchen grabed bunch of choclate and took a bath while eating it wtf? Ate healthy next day and now i'm back at it.
Question: The only potassium substitute i could find at the pharmacy is this fizzy tablet and it contains 1,42g of sugar. What do?
Gavin Thompson
Which is better for getting into ketosis quicker: HIIT + bodyweight exercises or steady state cardio? By the time I go to the gym tomorrow I'll be 18 hrs into a fast.
Luis Peterson
Been doing 16:8 - 20:4 on weekdays for three weeks and starting into my fourth. Lost 5 kilos, surely can't all be water since I drink 4-5 liters daily...
Adam Roberts
Well guys, it happened to me even though I said it hasn't just a day ago in this thread.
I woke up with my stomach hurting, and a huge case of the farts. While letting one out, it didn't stop, and a huge diarrhea shit exploded into my underwear and the bed while my wife was sleeping next to me. I cleaned it up a bit but realized I was leaking butt-juice all over the floor, so ran into the shower and cleaned it all out, came back outside to clean it up, and wife was still sleeping (thank god) but the dog was eating my butt-juice, and I had to get him away, clean the bed, bleach out the stain.
Never fucking trust a fart bros. I was mid-way into a 4:3
>Never fucking trust a fart bros Truer words are seldom written
Jayden Turner
Does protein fasting get you all same benefits as complete fasting? I've heard something like that.
James White
Depends on what benefits you're looking for and how you approach getting your protein You probably won't be getting autophagy if you're eating protein If you're getting your protein from whey 3x a day you're not even giving fat a chance to mobilize (protip: whey spikes insulin as much as white bread)
>Why do people keep trying to "cheat" their fasts? People keep trying to hack the system, to avoid getting out of their comfort zone Beyond the fasting veil it becomes crystal clear that any other approach to losing fat is either inferior or even counterproductive. >just eat less bro Yeah how many times have you tried that? How many times did it work, long-term? If it did you wouldn't be here.
