I'm having a heated debate right now:

I'm having a heated debate right now:
Which is a better medium, movies or books?
I told them a million times, you can't compare them side by side, because they're different in countless ways, but they wont listen

So what are some pro-film arguments?
Current pro-book argments:
-they leave a lot up for imagination
-there's more room for interpretation (since they're usually longer than most movies you FUCKING NITWITS)
focus on these first, please

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Mediums aren't in competition. Why have such a retarded argument? They are distinct and incomparable art forms.

movies are a very dont focus just consume whilst books make you think. thinking is exhausting so movies are better. but if you're a real thinker man books may be more enjoyable idk not a thinker man i just wanna be entertained and not put effort into that.

But what about movies like Apocalypse Now, or La Haine? Some of the most important films of all time are those that require you to think of what you're watching. There's a reason why "Driver" seems so boring- since much of the madness inside our protagonist isn't projected externally- you have to carefully examine the protagonist to understand his broken psyche

"A picture is worth a thousand words" was from a book i read.

SO a movie has a movie usually has 24 frames(pictures) per sec, and the average movie is about 130min that means that a movie has 1000x24x60x130 =187.200.000 words.

AND the average novel has between 60.000 to 120.000(lets go with 120k for a good measure).

THAT means that ONE movie is EQUAL to 1560 books.

Debate WON. GG NO RE

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>1000x24x60x130
why x60?

nvm i got it, didnt do the math properly

Film allows for different forms of subtext, and is engaging visually in a way books can never be. You also have the added benefit of sound, which gives a film multiple different dimensions.

In addition, all the different aspects of film can be warped or varied to impact the audience pretty much any way the director wants. There's so many more tools at a filmmaker's disposal than just language.

Sound and color. Very important parts of a movie

Humans are visual-focused creatures. Seeing an actual human face or a sweeping scifi cityscape can evoke powerful emotions with an effectiveness that books can never hope to match.

But what about the argument that the imaginaton is greater than any visual?
My opinion is that, in addition to just the visual, a movie also has sound at its disposal. There's basically two art forms flowing into one, IMO a way more creatively challenging way to stun your audience. There's a reason why "Heart of Darkness" by Joseph Conrad got so much critique: Its subject matter was an "adjectival insistence upon inexpressible and incomprehensible mystery".

why did you copy and paste your thread from /tv/

to get more answers, more sources and different arguments

Bump.
A lot of good points have been made, mainly the argument that you cannot compare two very different mediums like that. I am still interested in your guys' thoughts on this: Are movies the superior way of storytelling?

books, movies are used to brainwash people

Most competent directors have a better imagination than you plus there's hundreds of other people who worked on the film vs your single interpretation of a text.

I guess you could argue that it's impossible to film something with the scope of your imagination.
but that's simply not true anymore with modern technology
besides your imagination is somewhat limited by your own experiences and what media you've consumed.

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The only caveat I'd add is where books rely on literary devices that simply don't transfer to the screen, but that's like criticizing a book for having a bad soundtrack or poor lighting.

It depends on what you are trying to do. I agree with you, it's apples to oranges. While you can never match the quality of the narrative a book creates in the mind of the reader, film allows you to bring that narrative directly to the audience without effort on their part. A book will always be deeper, but films are spectacular in a way that books are not, and can be experienced alongside others in a way that books cannot.

>claim argument is invalid
>proceed to take a side anyway
ur dum

What a fucking retard, doesn't realize that different people prefer different things.

>movies are a very dont focus just consume whilst books make you think.
>movies don't make you think
You have utterly SHIT taste in movies, bud. Keep watching The Avengers.

I am receptive of voices so movies. I will only read a book if I find it interesting. Movie adaptations are great because even movies based on shitty boring books will be somewhat enjoyable. CGI and ever growing budgets helps too