What kind of gear is he on? Tren or just test?

I would bet one of my balls that he is on nothing.
Maybe he did a begginer cycle at 20, as one does.

stay mad butt boy

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Double digit IQ

Still higher than you, juice-head

Yes
And he called people losers for thinking zac efron was on gear for that baywatch movie

He claims natty

>if you think he's natty youré literally blind
TRT avoid the major gains goblins - daily, weekly and seasonal hormonal fluctiations.
You're permanently in the right place to be. No stress, shitty sleep, air pollution, plastic packages, 4G/5G, Wi-Fi, phytoestrogens or fapping will affect your test levels. They're fixed and they're the right levels.

TRT is the ideal level of roiding and everybody should roid like that, unless they compete.

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>Maybe he did a begginer cycle at 20, as one does.

so he did cheat

end of thread

This is 2 year's worth of lifting. Jeff is definitely natty retardo

Sage

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He probably roids, just not all the time. I'd guess modest cycles as well.

>This is 2 year's worth of lifting.

lmao sure man

you should stop lifting if thats unachievable natty for you

Isn't he around 50 though?

thats in no way 2 years of lifting

otherwise the entire world would look like that

la creatura

>everybody is the same
>anybody who looks better than my GDE ass with no work ethic is roiding or living in the gym.

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He's prob just in trt. He is really a gym autistic.

I don't get it, he looks average at best. What makes you think he uses roids?

because fit thinks everybody bigger is on roids and everybody smaller is a dyel

>Thinking Jeff isn't natty
jesus lads, c'mon

I don't like Jeff but he is literally a god among men

Wish that were me desu. One year's coming in 2 months and I'm not even halfway there. How'd you do it user?

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I was referring to your reading comprehension, you daft cunt.

I'd guess athletic lifestyle and brosplit/casual lifiting for years prior, then two years of "serious" lifting + a cut.

Jeff is 43 you zoomer.

So it wasnt 2 years of lifting.

stats?

What's your serious lifting routine? I'm just working out from my home. Maybe that's it, but I plan on going to a gym soon.

Nope I was a fat shit until I started lifting at 18. I've been lifting every day for pretty much 4 years now because I think it's fun

5'11 153lbs

Obsessive personality

It def is pal. The gains do slow down though. This is 4 years

I fuck around in the gym aside from alternating push/pulls

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Even if Jeff isn't natty, his body is 100% attainable natty if you're not a fatfuck like

Lying manlet

No, it was. And I was super fat before too 192lbs at my heaviest. Might be kinda genetic that I was able to change myself so quickly though, because my little bro is already looking better than everyone else in the gym with 1 year of lifting

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gross

>153lbs at 5'11'

That's legitimately embarrassing. Stop hijacking this thread so you can post your disgusting gyno CBT pics, pussy.

Oof u ass blasted pal?

I believe you. Most people here buy into the 200lb minimum to be a male. I swear to god low bodyfat % year round (never breaking 15%) makes people younger for longer. If you want to be a 5'10" 200lb ripped beast and you're not Tyson you need to cycle. I just don't see the point of bulking up when it's all going to go away anyway.

I'm 5'10" 160lb and if I even go to 180 I'm going to be fucking fat. Sure I get mass mogged by 6'2" 300lb Americans all the time but at least I like how I look in the mirror.

Yeah dude people don't get that unless you're on gear or genetically gifted, you aren't gonna be heavy af and have great definition. I'd rather be lighter but more aesthetic; to myself anyways

you think the entire world has 2 years of training dedication? fuck dude most people give up in a couple weeks.
90% of all humans just cannot better themselves in this way. Its why the fitness industry is a billion dollar business - its easy to con people into believing they'll get fast results.

Jeff isn't really "roid big", The #1 reason that makes him look so huge is that he's shredded like a motherfucker.

I DID MY FACEPULLS TODAY JEFF PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE

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This...
If he was roiding, I feel like his delts would be significantly bigger than they are.

brah you have a strict diet or just godly genetics?

Facepulls 24/7, his rotator cuff is bullet proof.

*internally rotates*

It's all in the rotator cuff, unbeliever

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Pretty strict diet in the sense that I try not to eat junk food, but I'll eat pretty much anything else

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>2576 calories burned

is that including TDEE or are you doing some intense cardio

what app is this

I don't do any cardio, just lifting 7 days a week. Haven't adjusted that tdee thing since I got the app

Cronometer

Jeff's like 5'8", so it's certainly conceivable that he's natural. That's not to say that it's likely, it's in his professional interest to be as fit as possible so he's got a strong incentive to be on TRT.

This guy, however, is definitely natty . He's only 153 lbs and he's 22 ffs.

>lifting 7 days a week
>153lbs

This is why you do a proper routine boys

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I lift 7 days a week because I love the pumps in the mirror, not because it's optimal dudeio

Yo but what are your lifts? Not trying to be a prick just genuinely curious

I don't max but working weights are
bench 215lbs 5x5
Hacksquat 255lbs 5x5
Haven't ohped or DL in a long time

What the fuck is going on with your legs?

Huge quad separation from the rest of my leg

This. It's funny because you guys all talk so much shit. I'm shredded at 5'10 and 147 pounds. You guys would call me skinny and a manlet which is funny because the general population wouldn't call me either of those. And women stare at me any time my shirt comes off.

You're doing well brother. I have shittier ab genetics than you do but know how much work it takes to get there natty.

lmao you dumbasses have never seen lean legs. A lot of you will talk shit too when a guy has good, shredded quads and say they don't do legs because their calves have leaned out too.