Are steroids worth it?

same here
GIGA COPE

Lol k

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Giga Chad is natty.

t. doesn't know how steroids work
going on gear requires you to work out more frequently and with higher intensity than natty. you need self discipline for that

Your average /fraud/er has more self discipline than any natty lifter you will ever meet. LOL'd @ you

Studies have shown that you can quite literally sit on your ass while roiding and gain muscle mass. Lmao fuck outta here you dumb testiclet

>fraud
>self-discipline
Activated my almonds

source(s): trust me dude

they are a bunch of autistic retards but work out every day for at least a few hours and never skip

water retention isn't the same as gaining muscle mass. you need to tear these fibers to make muscles grow, regardless if on gear or not.

this must be a troll holy shit dude. If you're actually serious then please kill yourself. You don't know shit.

natty cope

>muscle mass
>lean body mass

lift at least 3-5 years, and find that out yourself
Before pinning chinese piss you have to spend hours researching how steroids work, cycles and proper pct.

have you ever cycled? I doubt it

>Do you cheat

COPE
honestly tell me, do you think pic related is cheating? this is a /fraud/er with too much autism to have good self discipline and look what he looks like. muh cheating

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Clearly bait. Nothing wrong with gearing. It’s simply a tool, and does require you to work harder and more frequently.

What you’re getting at is that someone can go on gear and gain a NEGLIGIBLE amount of lbm without doing much. If you honestly think that people gearing are barely doing any work, let alone the fact they’re actually doing more, then you’re a retard. Even someone on gear can look like shit if their diet and lifting isn’t on point.

But tell us more since you’re such an expert on it

T. Natty

Yeah, there does need to be an appropriate stimulus for androgens to actually effect the receptors, higher testosterone doesnt just lead to more hypertrophy out of nowhere

Nobody said gearing wasn't hard work you fucking cuck ass faggot. It's obvious they wokr out. But if you take a natty and someone on gear who do the same, the one on gear will be light years ahead. Suck your own needle dick you small testy fag

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>the one on gear will be light years ahead
yeah, no.

spoken like someone who has never used

If you're a professional athlete: yes, if you do it correctly
If you just like lifting: no
If you're wealthy, misanthropic, antisocial, hedonistic cunt who doesn't give a flying fuck about health and just wants mass then yes

if you want to grow tits and shrink your balls, then yes

Spoken like someone who can't provide anything but turd evidence

i wish i was gigachad

only if you can get top shelf shit, not some chink bathtub chemicals that will turn you into bloated bald mess

not him, but even I know this study lmao
nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199607043350101

thisd photo is so editied its kinda gross

This is what fear, uncertainty and doubt look like.
Don’t laugh, just look, and learn.

tearing down muscle fibers isnt the only way of gaining mass lol

do you think chimps and gorillas lift weights all day?

it's a cgi

they move around, climb trees etc. that's quite an exercise

that will not ever get them anywhere near as jacked as weightlifting would. it's because primates are on gear by default.

That's true to a degree, however they also differ in terms of myostatin(the muscle growth inhibitor).

Doing steroids brings on a whole new set of problems you'll have to deal with. Personally, I don't want anymore stress than I already have.

based

>guess it depends on what your goals are, if you just want to be healthy and attract women then absolutely not.
You're wrong, for most men currently have lower than ideal test levels thus would benefit from TRT

nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199607043350101
Here's your source. Since you're wrong and overall a complete failure in life, will you just kill yourself already?

hardly relevant anyway. the point was that gear doesnt force you to work any harder, it only ALLOWS you to work harder.

frauds saying "bro im taking the hard route do you know how much time im spending at the gym?" are fucking retarded. many natties would spend just as much time at the gym but if they did that they would make half the gains. A fraud and natty putting in equal time and effort ALWAYS has the fraud coming out ahead. you gain muscle doing nothing, you gain even more muscle running a natty routine (easily 1.5x what the natty would) and you make max gains being at the gym as much as your recovery allows.

roiders dont have it more difficult in any sense of the word.

Even if you had low testosterone levels, is it worth it to ruin your body to the point you can't produce any naturally yourself? And you WILL have to get off the needle sooner or later either due to health or age or other life reasons.

>And you WILL get off the needle sooner or later....

says who lol? you can cruise on test until the day you die

t. shmedium T natty tempted to cruise once I get older and cant make gains without autist dedication

>And you WILL have to get off the needle sooner or later either due to health or age or other life reasons.
I see you haven't research much into the subject since TRT is mainly recommended to old age due to its benefits in restoring vitality; my own endocrinology preceptor injects himself TRT and HGH; at his 80s, he's still playing soccer every weekend, and remembers patients files out the top of his head; not to mention looking 20y younger;

>is it worth it to ruin your body to the point you can't produce any naturally yourself?
Calling something worth it is a hard call, it got to take personal differences into account; personally I think it's better to adopt a carnivore/semi-carnivore diet that enable one to get back to ideal lvs of test (and fix other hormonal imbalances); however, if getting into an informed talk about steroids is hard enough, nevermind talking about nutritional in this day and age of nutrition science based on epidemiology and vegan shills;

that guy even real? he really looks like a joke.

COPE

It's very relevant. Your muscles would be at their largest and strongest without training if you didn't have any myostatin and had enough food, coupled with a higher testosterone count, that allows gorillas to be larger than humans on 500mg of test(in terms of muscle mass).

Let me correct myself, a gorilla(or chimp) will be larger than a human without working out at the same testosterone levels. We have to train to make the most of our testosterone and get our muscles larger and stronger. Also I don't care about whatever it is you were talking about roiders before as I'm not that guy, I'm talking strictly about other apes.

the apes were just part of a shitty analogy to get it through thick fraud skulls. I dont know much at all about chimp physiology.

It's CGI

the Thad No-Pill

this.

>is balding, acne, heart disease, and shrunken testicles worth some bigger muscles?

>some bigger muscles

confirmed hasnt a clue what steroids can do

>Balding
If you're genetically predisposed
>Acne
If you're genetically predisposed
>Heart disease
Getting tired of writing this
>Shrunken testicles
Finally a true claim. Yes, your body will stop spending resources producing its own testosterone if you're providing it exogenously. But guess what happens (with proper PCT) when you stop giving it to your body for free? It produces its own again and back come your testicles.

>I dont know what self discipline means

fucking oath its worth it you DYEL faggot

lool here come the roidshit copers who do roids to get bigger fucking biceps and not to make money or compete

HUrrRRR MY ORGANS WON'T GROW!!!!11 I HAVE A GOOD PCT!!!!

fucking insecure losers

Trt has been great but I am a late 30s boomer. If you are thinking about taking gear, I would recommend that you wait until your body struggles to produce sufficient t. If you do not have symptoms of low t don't take it. Trt is life long and shouldn't be taken purely for vanity. Unless you are planning to go pro, it's not worth the impact to your body. It is not a decision that can be made without serious and lifelong implications. I started because I had symptoms e.g feeling like crap/being tired, wondering if it is worth living, low sex drive, etc. Since I started gear, I feel great not like a high or anything but I don't ever question whether I should continue to live. For me, taking gear is worth the consequences but then again, I am on low dose. Choose at your own risk.

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for me it really was not worth.
fuckd colesterol too much, thyroid still trashed past 2 years after cycles, libido never came back the way it was
yes i enjoyned while it lasted , about a year.. then no.

Man, I got my blood tested, hoping my general dread came from low test and it would be a simple fix, but it turns out my test levels are fine and slightly above average.
So I guess no easy fix for me.

Sorry to hear. I was relieved it was testosterone because one, I found the cause and two, I knew I wasn't crazy. Hormones are a crazy thing. Maybe it's your thyroid, dopamine, or serotonin levels? The feeling of dread can be real. Just remember life is worth living.

Yeah that’s kuterally not true. I’m the one you replied to, and all I’m gonna let you know that you’re not worth the time to even reply to beyond this post, I’m not arguing with a CHILD who’s mad that other people are gearing.

>and does require you to work harder and more frequently.

It's easier to train harder when your muscle recovery times are better

I’ll agree with you on this. This is very true, and it’s the only reason why people on gear work harder if anything.

>tons of bodybuilders on roids die due to heart attacks by their 50s
>Are steroids worth it?
I mean, if you're going to kys anyway, there are certainly worse ways to do it. Just keep in mind that the human body limits how much muscle you can pack on for a reason: longevity and efficiency.

>hours
even longer. I've spent hour researching it and I still dont know shit, there is so much contradictory information and misinformation out there, you really need to know someone in the know like a doctor that has extensive experience with patients of a longtime user.

Depends on what your goals are. I personally wouldn't because I work as a school teacher so I'm not going to fuck with anything even remotely illegal because it could fuck up my whole career path.

Not true. I went to the same highschool as Jeff Seid and he pulled all of the hot girls in our grade. Literally took the virginity of the hottest girl at my school in the backseat of a car. As long as you're not overshooting and going full hgh gut, you're going to do pretty well with the ladies.

jeff pls go

If you're making serious money or opening future opportunities then maybe. Or trying to recover from some horrible injury that would take years to recover from without them. Otherwise no.

nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199607043350101

You literally gain more lean muscle mass just doing roids and nothing else than being a natty with a regular workout regiment and strict diet

All roiders are coping for a lack of discipline, just admit that you have no willpower and be done with it stop trying to act like you put in any work

YOLO

Get fit or die trying brah