/fat/ - no more sweaty mantits edition

>Who is /fat/ for?
For fat bastards who want to better themselves through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication.

>This is not QTDDTOT, ask questions about fat loss, but use that thread for general questions.

>Read the Jow Forums sticky (redundant in that you should have already but it covers all the basics of diet and exercise)
liamrosen.com/fitness.html

>Calculate your Body Fat Percentage
fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy (Gonna need waist/neck measurements)

>Calculate your BMI
nhlbi.nih.gov/health/educational/lose_wt/BMI/bmicalc.htm

>Calculate your TDEE (Total Daily Energy Expenditure)
sailrabbit.com/bmr/ (complex)
fitnessfrog.com/calculators/tdee-calculator.html (simple)

>Plan your weight loss week by week
losertown.org/eats/cal.php

>Track your calories and macros with MyFitnessPal or Cronometer. Works best on smartphones
myfitnesspal.com (better for packaged food)
cronometer.com (better for generic food/tracking micro-nutrients)

DO
>count calories, all of them.
>calculate your TDEE at sedentary.
>buy scales, be accurate in your measurements. autistically accurate.
>learn how to cook and start cooking your own healthy meals. lean protein and green vegetables.
>develop sustainable healthy lifestyle habits
>eat a lot of protein (1g per lb of goal body weight)
>walk, swim, or bike, just get moving.
>start lifting weights! fatties have the advantage that they can build muscle while cutting, especially as complete beginners!
>post your height/weight/screenshot of MFP/Cronometer food log when asking for advice

DON'T
>eat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calorie count
>eat processed foods, or at least try to avoid if possible
>drink your calories. alcohol, soda, hot chocolate, fancy starbucks shit. forget it.
>be a retard

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CONFESS

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>July 2018
>311lbs, 5'9 (upper echelon manlet I know) probably more because I started cutting back in June
>Today
>222lbs
How am I doing, /fat?/

I eat at Subways [spoiler]ALL THE TIME.[/spoiler]

>woke up
>weigh in
>308
FUCK YEAH SUB 300 SOON

been slacking a bit lately. still losing weight but i have a massive sweet tooth and my parents keep buying stuff i can't resist

also down 100 pounds as of today, that was nice to see

Tfw only 20lbs left til goal

>went from 290 to 180 lbs
>still have sweaty, loose skin mantits

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Do you even lift?

>>Who is /fat/ for?
Yo momma

So what are the rules for starting /fat/ threads? I noticed this morning it was past 315 and almost asked then, but had to drive to work
I know I am showing my Jow Forums and specifically /tg/ origins, but is there something like a bakers guild? Or could I have announced in the old thread, copied the top, started a new thread and linked from the old?

I’ve been here less than 2 months (NYRFag) so don’t want to screw anything up or step on any toes

For 6 months now

Just weighed in at 304, very soon for me too user!

Day 2 /fat/. I had a comfy night with friends cause we all went out to a restaurant and ate, but I managed to stay under my calories I think.

Made some good social gains and made some good weight loss gains I hope.

That being said, how the hell do you kick instant gratification? I know I just started, but already it feels like it’s taking to long.(which is stupid considering I used to lose weight before and I know I’ll lose it in time, but it just feels so slow)

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The skin will naturally retract and with the lifting the muscle will fill it out faster. You'll be fine, eventually.

Shit those were the good old days where you can pretty easily lose 4 or 5 lbs in a good week. Once you get down to losing the last 10 percent of your goal every lb seems slow to come off.

there are no rules except you should make it before the fucking weeb does. just wait until the old one hits bump limit before you copy the OP text and link it in the old thread

Back, biceps and cardio today lads, finally looking decent (for a fatty), dicked down a chubby girl yesterday and have another one lined up for next week , life’s good, sub 100kg soon come

Before long the hunger will start to be a good feeling, the feeling of burning fat. And that will be your gratification. Also if you can make it through that first month you will probably notice your clothes being considerably looser, which is extremely gratifying and will make you want more. It’s even better when you actually get to the point where you decide to buy some clothes in a smaller size.

What is you goal weight user, and where did you start?

Started at 295, goal is 170. 12 more lbs to lose as of my weigh in yesterday.

>Day 2
It's like you're a little baby.
>That being said, how the hell do you kick instant gratification?
Stick with it longer than 2 days. You're reversing habits. It takes at least a month to build a new habit and make take longer than that if you feed any old habits once or twice along the way.

>but it just feels so slow
It is slow. I've gotten a lot of shit for thinking about it too much. They've got a point, it hasn't done me any favours.

Kicking any bad habits takes conscious effort. Being mindful and alert. Running on auto-pilot is how you fuck up and, well, get to the state we're all in now to begin with. Gotta yank yourself back whenever you find yourself in the kitchen, or reaching for a snack, or thinking "fuck it".

Gets infinitely easier.

That's awesome,

How accurate is Fitness frog? I just got a 2992 with a desk job (no exercise) and 3864 with my current activity level (5 days a week).

Granted I'm a tubby guy but it seems like a fucking lot, I always measured myself at around 2700 something (adult male is 2500 average, add a few more because fat fuck).

I'm at work and I cant measure SailRabbit right now, just curious on this.

SailRabbit uses the same inputs, man. You don't need to input bf%

FitnessFrog does seem pretty heftily overcompensating once you input activity level above sedentary, though. I compared the two and SailRabbit is much more conservative.

It is, but it’s also to the point where 1 night of drinking and an extra slice or two of pizza can cancel out a whole week’s progress. Gotta be especially disciplined just to lose every pound.

But my real goal was just to look decent in medium shirts. And I basically just reached that point and bought a few new medium shirts this weekend so that’ll be my motivation to stay disciplined for these last 12 lbs.

great stuff user.

nothing much to confess today pastor wojak, i did omad and ate korean bbq which was under my calorie limit. also shitted out all the bbq like an hour later so i have no idea if any of the stuff was even digested.

Jow Forums BTFO!!

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Hit the 30lbs lost mark today. Another 30-40lbs to go and I'll finally be free of the fat body I've had for my whole goddamn life.

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30lbs is what i need to lose, how long did it take for you and what did you do? i'm currently on OMAD 1000 calories

Remember that you're doing this for your health, user. Keep lifting and it will get better. Even if you do have loose skin in the end, the health gains and the way your body feels is worth it.

>how the hell do you kick instant gratification

It’s pretty tough, especially after a disappointing weigh in. But I always try to remember a piece of wisdom from these threads I see often: You didn’t get fat in two days, either. It’s taken you your whole life to get to where you are now. You’ll make it way too hard for yourself if you expect to undo a lifetime in merely two days.

I keep ruining a good day or week by buying beer and vodka in the evening to relieve stress from my shitty college campus life
I put on 20 pounds over the past 8 months since I've turned 21 and my clothes are starting to feel too tight. I am ashamed father.

Diets don't work because they're seen as temporary and after the diet is over, people go right back to their old habits and gain the weight back. Weight loss is achieved through permanent lifestyle changes.

I started on December 1st 2018. I started at 180lbs, ate between 1200 and 600 cal a day (a lot of variation based on my activity level and social eating, but it probably averaged around 900cal), and did Starting Strength. I just ate when I felt like it and tried to eat healthy things while meeting my 100-110g daily protien goal.
Depending on where your weight is at relative to your height, it will be harder or easier to lose the weight. Best of luck to you, user.

what a stupid post
if the diet is easy and healthy to maintain for a long time and works for you in losing weight then IT WORKS

so far ive gone from 265 down to 215 as of today
havent even started lifting yet
this is the lightest ive been since high school
looking to start with bodyweight exercises soon
feels pretty nice

You know what you have to do and you're strong enough to do it. Get back on track. If you buy new clothes to shell your fatter body you will have lost. Win against the drink and food. You can do this.

Can someone just slap some sense into me? I've lost 70+ lbs and I'm almost there. Some girl is into me and I still ate a bunch of bullshit this week.

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Good work man. You're making it.

I ate a slice of cake yesterday for my bro's birthday, but that wasn't too bad. I also ate two Lindor chocolates and a handful of gummy bears at the office because I knew that I would be having that cake, though.

>I knew I would be eating junk food, so I ate extra junk food
What kind of retard logic is this?

So I posted in last thread just as it died.
Calculated my TDEE: 2160 (I'm 5'9" and 165lbs and 20% body fat can't measure precisely)
Substracted 500 for a cutting diet so 1660kcal per day.
My lean body mass is 132lbs.
So my protein needs for cutting as per the sticky is 1.5g*132=198g. Which is 198*4kcal=792kcal.
792 is approx. 45% of my daily calorie intake.
What should be my spread in the other macronutriments?
45% proteins, 40% carbs, 15% fats? Or 45%, 35%, 20%.

Btw it's sedentary TDEE of course.

Do equal fats and carbs. Unless you're eating nothing but chicken for your protien, you're bound to rack up fats anyway. Also, you can do 1g of protien per lb of lean body weight, rather than 1.5g.

Guess I'll do 40 protein, 30 others.
>you can do 1g of protien per lb of lean body weight, rather than 1.5g
Really?
The stickied websites say you should have more than 1g/lb LBM when on a cutting diet.

Its my 1 year anniversary of when I joined the Gym
Im down 18 Kilos and more than twice as strong as when I joined
I looked at myself in the mirror this morning and smiles

Were all gonna make it

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You're going to find that a lot of fitness websites and resources have contradictory information. It's really up to you to decide what's right after your own research, and what a sustainable nutritious diet looks like for you. 1g per 1lb of lean body weight is the standard I've seen in a lot of places myself, and it's sustainable without sacrificing significant amounts of other nutrients for most deficit diets.

>they all still don't work
>t. dumb cunt
What else is new

"Diets" dont work
Eating healthy and keeping physically active is the only way

Fuck yeah we're all gonna make it
>tfw when bench went up 10lbs today
>tfw incline bench went up 5lbs today
>tfw I tried to up it by 10 but almost decapitated myself going for the fifth rep
Today is a great day!

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You fucked up, don’t try and justify it. Eat better today and tomorrow.

>mfw the first time I tried to increase my weights I went up by 15 Kilos
>mfw I couldnt handle it and dropped the bar onto my chest
>mfw nobody else was in the gym at all

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Is it a good sign for not having loose skin if i can already pull the skin on the fattest part of my belly pretty far? I've only lost 20 lbs so far but still need 60-70 to go

>there's people in my gym all the time
>whenever I'm on bench and struggling no one comes to help
>almost died today on incline and had to rack it on the lower rack in order to not crush my head
>no one came over
>no one asked if I was alright
>no one cares if I kill myself by failing a rep
On the upside it's more motivation to not fail a rep.

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Alright, I'll go for 40/30/30 for now see if it's sustainable, if not I may lower to 30/40/30.

it also bounces back immediately and i'm relatively young/ have oilier skin

Love OMAD, lads. It's completely keeping my hunger in check and haven't lost any energy.

wait is subway bad, i was gonna get subway today after my 24 hrs fast

literally as bad as mcdonalds

>complaining after 2 days
imagine

>hamburger and fries
>900+ calories and shit macros
>1 ft sub
>~700 calories and at least you get a decent amount of protein from the meats
we're both generalizing here but mcdonalds is way worse IMO.

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The only slightly better thing about Subway is that you can get a variety of chips which would be slightly healthier than 600 calories worth of fries. Other than that the drinks are the same and the sandwiches are no better or worse than burgers unless you go strictly veggies.

McDonald's burgers have more protein in them now that they have to use real beef after losing that lawsuit.

Always assume TDEE calculators overestimate it and always take sedentary levels.
So if it says 3000, just assume its 2700, and calculate your deficit from there. If you need to adjust afterwards you can, but its a safe assumption.

I haven't eaten sugar for two days. I'm feeling nervous and angry all the time. But, I'll continue the fight anons !1!!1

By sugar I mean table sugar.

No, it's as bad as whatever (YOU) choose to put on it.

Yeah, if you get the cheesy bread footlong with meatballs with even more cheese, then it's gonna be as bad as three Big Macs.

If you get the 9 grain with heavy veggies and one of the cold cut meats then you'll be fine (still a lot of bread though).

im down to my last 10lb and i keep failing bros

ate like 2500+ calories yesterday, when i literally didnt even leave my apartment because its snowing. I got bored and just kept making pasta and eating protein bars

I confess I am failing in my desire to have abs this summer

I'm straying away from the path. I'm still losing weight, but more slowly now because I eat some extra carbs here and there, sometimes even sugars.

I need some Pavlovian training, Jesus

>started at 235
>got to 215
>scale reads 235 yesterday
>236 today

I don’t know what’s happening to me. I’m eating around 1500cal/day of clean food (I weigh and measure everything, and I exclusively drink water) and hitting the gym 3-4 times a week. This feels like a nightmare I can’t wake up from.

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I haven't gone of the rails diet wise in quite a long while now, but im still under the influence of the aspartame jew. Trying to fix it aswell, but it's taking it's time...

>around 1500cal/day
>"around"
I found the problem.

Around meaning between 1400-1600. I consider 1700 a “cheat”.

You're clearly counting wrong somewhere, thats just not possible unless you chugged 20lbs worth of water.

I logically understand that to be true. But I know that even if I miscalculated a thing or two, it wouldn’t amount to a 70000 calorie/week difference. According to the weigh in that’s caused this distress, I’d have to be eating literally 8x more than I think I’m eating.

Weighed the same, tomorrow will be lighter I can tell , chest triceps and cardio

Check your scale.

>lost only 4 kg on the past months
>wut
>measure bf%
>went to 30% to 26%
Making it at baby steps

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Have you gorged on copious ammounts of salt that made you retain 20lbs of water?
You also didnt give a timeline in how long you went from 215 to 235 so its hard to guess, or if you were going to the gym when you were at 215, etc. etc. Building muscle can cause weight gain when you first start because your muscle is being tasked and it holds water as part of its repairs, but I doubt it'd be as much as 20lb.

It's not muscle. Even hard gainers gain 4 pounds a month.If he is a hard gainer and eating salt by the spoonful and on top of that drinking olive oil it shouldn't account for 20 pounds in a week. OP get on a different set of scales.

I tore up some pizzahut last night. Feel like I lost DAYS

Because you did. Get back on track.

I didnt say he built muscle, I said water retention in muscle.

This is all over 1.5 months. Started diet and exercise mid January (at 235), was at the 215 mark as of 1 week ago today. I have not stopped the gym routine at any point. Mfp records my sodium between 1800-2000 mg/day, which is under the seemingly arbitrary “daily limit”. My water bottle holds 64 oz of water, I drink about 1.5 fills a day for roughly 96oz of water daily.

Made below 170 lbs, am 6.0ft, after like 2 months of stagnation. Hopefully I don't fuck it up and go above 170 lbs again.

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I'm going Friday to a gym for the first time with a friend.
I'm reassured by the fact that people here say that everyone minds their own business, but I'm still a little anxious.
Give me a quick rundown on how to not look like I'm awaiting execution.
Also, can you gain muscle while losing weight if you adjust your diet? I'm 95kg 185 cm tall

>I'm eating at a deficit and working out, but I mysteriously gained 21lbs!
Here's another (You).

No one gives a shit unless you reek. Just have some basic hygenie, wear deodorant, and focus on your own reason for being there.

>can you gain muscle while losing weight if you adjust your diet
If you're beginning then yes. It's very easy to gain muscle and still lose weight as long as you're getting enough protein.

I take no pleasure in shitposting, sir. I’m obviously doing something wrong and am genuinely seeking advice.

No one interacts with you unless you're maintaining proper form for your barbell lifts. Otherwise, no one pays attention to you.

Count your calories better. Dont use oil, dont eat nuts since they're the main 2 reasons people who think are eating healthy turn out to be eating 1k over maintenance. Literally it, if you do this right there is no reason to gain 20lbs, so when you say you did, and we have only your anecdotal evidence to say you totally did count them all autistically, we can only just assume you either 1. are lying to yourself 2. were bad at counting calories 3. are just meming.

>the same weight loss program that made me lose 20lbs has magically made me gain 20lbs back
This is impossible unless you have some insane disease. Why don't you take a guess at what you're fucking up instead just insisting that you're doing everything with autistic perfection and your body defies the laws of thermodynamics? Re-assess every minute step of your process for errors, or go see a doctor.

will things like hot pockets and progresso soups and such destroy my body if i at least count the calories in them and only intake what im allowing myself?

therse only so many things i can cook for myself over and over, a pepperoni hot pocket for 330 calories isnt all that bad IMO

>tfw 5'11 manlet, 159 lb (72.5 kg)
>I'm still doing OMAD to drop around 150 lb
>People tell me I look fine but need to lift
>Absolutely hate lifting, I just want a clean cut first

It's funny that I am still doing intermittent fasting, really, it's easy for me to eat once a day than lifting.

I just don't find the motivation to lift, I hate my body, shitty nipples, skinny fat, etc.

Reminder bros, you might be fat but at least you have more strength to lift, I lose weigh but I'm a DYEL.

Btw, I lose weigh very quickly only eating a meal once a day, intense cardio and drink a vegetable juice each morning.

You can do it bros, sadly, I can't going on anymore, Godspeed bros.

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does this guy post this LITERALLY every thread

Do you count calories/minerals/vitamins from pepper, herbs and spices other than salt?

go for lean pockets instead, i have a box sitting my freezer for those days when i'm absolutely floored and can't cook.