/depression/

all depression related stuff goes here.
as OP I promise to answer and talk to as much as you can and no im not a moralfag

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What are ways to beat depression other than getting medicated?

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Suicide. There is no other way, you can't fix it or beat it. Either medicate it or learn to live with it.

you can only make it not feel as bad.
learn to cope.

I use discord group of otehr depressed people to cope.
/AmNGcK

read wisdom of life by schopenhauer.

You know what's depressing?
At one point I was so alone I talked to a camwhore trap to just get some attention and human interaction since no female will give me the time of day. And even the trap pittied who I was and wanted nothing to do with me.

A fucking camwhore trap, thought I wasn't even good enough to send lewds too. I fucking want to die.

waaaaa im white and dont even try
woe is meeeeeeeeee
shut up you whiny faggots with no problems

>At work
>Coworker compliments my colleague
>Respond by saying my colleague is pretty amazing
>Coworker asks if I mean that in a work-sense or that I'm interested in her
>Don't lie and just hold my index finger up to my lips
>Coworker responds by saying she's just intrigued by such things
>Go away from work stressed that she'll say something to my colleague, revealing my interest in her
Not much that I can do, but I just wanted to complain. I don't think my colleague has much of an interest in me. She has a life outside of her job, and I don't even know anybody who I don't work with.

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OP i have no motivation to do anything over the last few days, and this is despite the fact I have this fantastic creative project that is so close to being finished that if I was a more vain kind of person would give me validation (and already has) yet I can't bring myself to work on it and polish it.
Either radically changing one's environment and habits, or progressively attacking and accomplishing 'little victories'.
If I were you I'd reframe that thought user, if they're a camwhore trap, their judgement is poor to begin with and seeing you at your most vulnerable on top of their shitty judgement isn't really something you should get depressed about.
Tomorrow (okay, let's be realistic 8 months from now) you might turn your life around... they'll be a camwhore trap.

My life is still shit user. It's been 5 years, 7 failed attempts at trying to find a girlfriend and even a camwhore who was looking for a no strings attached camwhore session thought I wasn't good enough.

Why is it every time I talk about just wanting someone to love me and see value in me and how the abuse I've been though put me into this god awful desire and need of validation to move on, I get dumped and told the same shit. "Oh you seem really nice, and you sound like a good person, but I don't think this is right for you." like even with a girl who I'm trying to court it's the same shit. I just want someone to fucking love.

>, 7 failed attempts at trying to find a girlfriend
You do realize that normie success rates with getting laid is like 1/100, and getting a girlfriend is even slimmer. You wont' believe me, but you're doing fine.
>Why is it every time I talk about just wanting someone to love me and see value in me and how the abuse I've been though put me into this god awful desire and need of validation to move on
The short answer is because people are afraid that you're going to drag them down into the "shit life" you have, especially if you're so forthright. Unfortunately reality doesn't reward such candid honesty and vulnerability, certainly not to men. It's unjust, but also, there's little you can do to change the status quo.

Thanks for recommending this. I think I already knew what is being said here, I have been forming an idea of what is bothering me and what I need to do and this encapsulates some of that pretty well.

Time to kill myself then. No fucking point to any of this, I'm not hitting at every fucking biological female until one says yes.

Why does female attention validation matter that much to you?

I think I'm gonna drink myself to death, I don't have any enjoyable relationships or anything to keep me around past my 40s so the cirrhosis will hit just in time.

I don't even mind not having a gf but the total lack of a good job opportunity in my future and multiple things on my record kind of keep me fucked. Its become so hard to legitimately enjoy anything or work towards something I've been getting crazy thoughts like if a cop pulls me over I just go off and get in a car chase and other retarded shit. I think the lack of it all is making me batty, can't change the past though.

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Because I was abused to the point where I feel like I cannot be loved by another living person and I'm desperate to prove that nothing incorrect. It's the only way I can move on and validate that I have fucking worth and that anyone else but my abuser can love me.

With ever failed attempt, it's just further cementing that no one will ever love me, I'm a piece of shit who has no good or redeeming qualities and I'm better off dead to the world.

I don't really have a good reason to be depressed. I have a pretty good job, I have a girlfriend... but I still feel empty when I'm not drunk. Everything is just more fun when I'm drinking, and I'm not really interested in my hobbies anymore when I'm not drunk. Trying hard to get over this but I'm just so bored now... any ideas?

thanks ian for your input

If I could show you a way to feeling validated that didn't lead you to being rejected, if I showed you a means of finding a sense of worth, identifying or manifesting redeeming qualities and finally leaving the shadow of your abuse would you believe me? Would you at least consider it? Would you, after hearing it, try to act upon it?

I'm open to listening. But I don't know if it will work for me. It feels like the only way to move on now is to find someone else and if I can't do that then I'm never gonna move on from my ex.

That's a pretty shitty commitment,
> It feels like the only way
>I'm never gonna
I know you're trying to be realistic, but what's actually happening is your already conditioning yourself for failure.
Right now you can't get over your ex by replacing them with someone else, if anything if you did find this person you'll just fall into the same victim pattern you did before - that's realistic. You need to divorce from yourself entirely from this need to source validation from another person, you need to to stop internalizing their abuse.
So let me ask you again - will you believe it if I could show you how?

I kinda recently just realized how GOOD I actually have it as a black man. It's as almost as if when I died in my past life I explicit asked God to make me black but on easy mode. I don't have the guilt and burden of a white man and I don't have shitty poor quality life of a lot of black people. I had a great childhood, better than most whites and blacks. I live in a great neighborhood in a nice development near the beach.

I have a better than average job with no degree. It isn't paying hot stacks but at the same time I don't have to contribute much to rent, either. Leaving me with a lot of spending money if I want. I don't have to share a room with strangers, live with both of my parents still well, alive, and not divorced like what happens to white cucks.

It's almost as if.....I was given a free pass to enjoy myself while being in the middle and actually be something to my race. And I've been depressed for the longest time for what reason? Absolutely no reason for me to be depressed. At all. The only thing is I have the weaker link in looks and height compared to my siblings but it's like an RPG. Trade looks and height for higher IQ and a good life.

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You have no idea bro.
some of us here are fcuked in the head.
go for her, dont be a fag.
soon you wont be able to enjoy anything in life and spend all your time on distractions like me.
man you pretty pathetic DESU I feel kinda bad for you bro.
you need to be the one who abuses not the one being abused.

Anyone want to add me?
melancholymouse#6708

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It is what it is. if you want to give me advice do it, I'm not gonna vow to change my life over something that I have yet to read or see.

>It is what it is.
No it's not, it's pliable.
> I'm not gonna vow to change my life over something that I have yet to read or see.
See you misunderstand the question. The question isn't about the content itself, what I say is almost irrelevant. You need to make an actual choice that "when the right advice comes along, I DO vow to change my life". Here you're trying to avoid making even that choice, which unfortunately means that even if I give you good advice you're probably going to find ways to poke holes into it, convince yourself there's nothing you can do to find validation from within, continue to sabotage attempts at relationships with women through your oversharing, then use that rejection as evidence that you're fundamentally worthless rather than just evidence that you're oversharing.
When instead you need to make a choice and a commitment that you're going to change your life for the better - whatever path that may take - that way if there is a set back rather than throwing your hands up and giving up you try again and then become startled at the progress you made. You perverse and get better rather than believe that your past is all you'll ever be.
If ANYONE, a trustworthy person, could show you the way? Will you believe it? Will your earnestly take action to implement it?

That should be "you persevere and get better as opposed to believe that your past is all you'll ever be"
I really should scan my posts before posting.

>soon you wont be able to enjoy anything in life and spend all your time on distractions like me.
What do you think is the cause of that, why does that creeping unenjoyment happen?

Tell me more about your depression, user. Do you feel as fulfilled in your lovelife or with your personal character as you do with the material aspects?

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You're literally just spewing shit about how I need to commit to change rather then presenting a method to change.

I've already committed my life to change, I've tried to change, but I'm not gonna be lectured about how I want to change in order to see change. I'm here to bitch about being in a low point right now. I don't need a motivational speaker danging an imaginary carrot that can help me with my issue that doesn't fucking exist for any good reason.

Why would I bother interviewing you and designing a personalize strategy for you unless you commit? Why is it worth MY time? Don't you see how self-defeating this is?
>I'm here to bitch about being in a low point right now.
Exactly, you don't want to change. You want to bitch, write in your diary.
Now are you going to make a commitment or not? Other wise I'm outta here.

i don't know where it all went wrong for me. i used to be able to wake up every day and more or less enjoy life
i'm a neet on bux and live with my parents so i have more money and time than i know what to do with. i would wake up and make breakfast and coffee and enjoy playing games or i would just chill in bed and watch anime
big weeb so always dreamed of going to japan, it was just a matter of getting my passport and planning the trip as money was no issue
gradually i started falling out with my friends and cutting all ties with people, no longer enjoy games near as much, watch very little anime. given up on ever going to japan as it just seems so pointless because it's not going to change anything or make me a better person
i eat less and have lost weight
all i do now is drink cheap wine and feels post most days
i tried the Jow Forums meme but that just made me feel worse about myself
i don't feel like i can connect with anyone anymore as even other outcasts are so different from me

I'm not going to commit to some random user, who has yet to prove they know what they fuck they are talking about or have any merit. You have shown me no plan, nor anything that actually seems valid and you want me to commit to it?

>If ANYONE, a trustworthy person, could show you the way?
Quoted from you, a trustworthy person. How the fuck am I gonna trust your ass, all you are doing is selling me snake oil saying it will fix my problem and that I gotta commit and say yes to something that I might not even agree with from someone I don't even trust. You gotta put something forward at this point so I know you aren't full of shit.

I'm not gonna commit to shit that you haven't explained to me nor anything else besides "I can fix your problem."

I don't feel depressed, but I do feel lonely however, I never realized how much it sucked not being in School, and just not having "friends" and people to interact with on a day to day basis besides your coworkers.
the feels when no gf are really hitting hard.

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I'm outta here, you're not meant to commit to me, You're meant to commit to you idiot. See how you're hoping I'm full of shit just so you can fail again?

I do not understand how people feel lonely.

No, it's called common sense. I've been lied to a lot on here, I can't commit to a stranger I never met telling me "I can help you" but showing no merit or reason to believe you besides empty threats of "If you don't say yes I'm walking away."

This is Jow Forums, there is a lot of liars here and people who are willing to fuck with you for the sake of a quick laugh. I'm not gonna open myself up to a stranger anymore unless you can prove you're serious. If you don't want to prove it and don't think I'm worth your time, then it is what it is. I'm not blindly committing to people on Jow Forums of all places where people blackmail you.

I guess some of us haven't fully ascended yet, and still year for companionship and physical intimacy.

This is going to sound dumb but you have the power to control how you feel and it's as easy as deciding to do it. I used to have these talks with my former boss and we agreed that being conscious is the cure to all your personal problems.

Basically you could either be sad or be conscious of your sadness and find a way to stop it because it's basically a bunch of chemicals in your brain telling your body what to feel.

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>This is going to sound dumb but you have the power to control how you feel and it's as easy as deciding to do it.
had clinical depression since I was a child etc, I cant control shit.
can I control hearing sounds that dont exist etc.

meme advice normalfag

If you're still here, I just want to know what your plan was. Not this long winded point for point explanation. I want what the fuck your intent was with this whole fucking theatric bullshit of trying to give me false hope that someone cares.

You're letting that diagnosis cage you up. If you're sad start asking yourself why and start patching yourself up because those meds you're taking are only bandaids

Also if you hear voices ignore them or befriend them and live your life without crying over what some doctors told you.

I cant even go outside.
medically declared unfit for work and real close to disabilitybux anyway.

Im so scared to sleep anons. Right before I sleep is when my brain is the worst. I need to distract myself every minute of the day or the bad thoughts set in. Im doomed, i can tell even my psychologist has little hope for me. I wasted my whole life and was babied by a single teen mom. I want this all to end so badly but I can't have the courage

I've been there, I became a shut in for two years and would only crawl out of my room at night to eat when my family couldn't see me. My anxiety was pretty bad but I refused to take meds and started working on my health on my own. I'm not telling you you'll end up being a normal person but at least you can stop feeling like crap everyday.

I know what I told you sounded like meme advice but it's what worked for me.

Why the refusal of meds good sir

its been over 5 years for me and im 25

My mom was friends with an artist who couldn't function without his meds and she always told me to never depend on them. I also met the guy and I decided I didn't want to be a slave to pills.

I'm turning 26 tomorrow and I'm just learning how to cook and do basic stuff now after being away from the world for so long, just say to yourself that you don't want to feel this way anymore and it's time to change. You might think that you're a failure in the eyes of those around you but the truth is that their opinion of you doesn't matter, only what you think about yourself matters.

I gave up man.
its over and im content with that

I want to Yotsuba

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Do you think that if I kill myself now I could be reincarnated as Chad?

>tfw never had friends even in school so just gotten used to it at this point

27 here, depressed since 15 i think, never medicated i just feel low like 5-6 days a week, i have a job and got a girlfriend, but i want to break it off, i became a trashy person because no one is good anymore, i just love my family so thats why imma cope till i die from natural causes i think

if you have a shitty family i dont know what to say to you, this shit feels fucking awful and cant be destroyed

based tom

Lately I've been thinking about my ex again and how I wish I was still with her. I can't go a single hour without wondering what life would be like if we were still together, and the good memories always flow back. Even getting a text from her occasionally or seeing her face makes my heart race. The depression is killing me and now I'm starting to lose interest in even my most basic hobbies.

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>6months since I quit my job and no phone calls for a interview
>Today someone called but I didn't hear it and missed it by two hours
>Dude tells me to call him back
>Call him back
>He isn't there and goes to voicemail
Here is hoping he calls me back tomorrow. If not guess i'll go into the fast food business sadly.

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Good luck user. These fucks never want to call back though honestly.

That is what I'm afraid of. Since last time that happened to me they didn't call me back after I left a voicemail(different company) Hopefully this time they do call me back since I left him a message. If not I'll apply to McDonalds or something

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>Applying to Mcdonalds
Might as well sign a death warrant man.

I really don't want to keep being a neet and just makes my resume worst. Well 7months now since it's december

link expired... reeeeeee

im owner, add me ill find out if you had been banned by mistake or something.
melancholymouse#6708

Find someone who's more depressed than you ans befriend them. They function basically like a depression lightning rod and everytime you're around them you sorta forget about your own sadness.

That or I might just be a sadistic fuck who likes watching other people cry

This user is right in every point he/she has spoken. If nothing else, it's not about your time to bitch being taken up, it IS about how much time you take up bitching instead of true progress. There is no progress if there is no progression, but there is not progress in bitching because it will never solve a problem.
Change the internal dialogue inside your head. To be "meh" about a situation YOU want to change but only want it to change so you can bitch about it is the same about bitching it's raining.
>yes, it is raining
>you are getting drenched
>no duh that sucks
>talking doesn't stop the raining
Vs.
>it's raining
>get under structure
>it sort of sucks
>not being drenched
>doesn't feel the need to bitch

Someone like this user just offered you a coat, BUT when it stops raining you should give the coat to someone else who needs it someday(a conditional) and if you truly will do this, he was going to give you a coat that would keep you dryer than you are now.

OP, dedicate yourself to something of morals and stick with it is my advice for your situations. If you have good morals, nothing or something may happen to or for you. If you have bad morals, something good might happen to you, but mostly bad will happen to you so sux to suck.

bumping depressed thread

I wish I could feel sad but I'm just empty. I think it's because of school; it's hard to be overtly sad and depressed while also forcing yourself to diligently study for exams.

Bro that's called alcohol addiction

You're an incel go away. Getting lewds won't curb your lonliness

I'm convinced that nothing good happens to me and most of it is my own fault. Why bother even getting out of bed when life just shits on me in one way or another?

>just stop being sad bro lmao

>no im not a moralfag
just another way you're a degenerate. I recommend deleting your thread

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I didn't know how much my guanfacine prescription affected my sleep patterns. Was out of it for nearly a week, and my sleep went to like a 28+ hour cycle, and even when I tried to lay down I couldn't sleep.

Back on it, within the day I can nap again, and a day or two later my sleep is becoming semi-regular, albeit off normal time. I also was on less MAOI than I should've been, but dose changes never affected me as much as the guanfacine did.

Waiting on a callback for a job. Need to apply for jobs. Taking out the garbage in a minute because it's 7AM and I didn't feel like taking it out earlier.

bumping depressed thread desu

What are the ways to feel again something after 15 years?

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Honestly just walk around outside. Even in the coldest of weather, you'll feel a calm in your soul.

i feel this user. literally everything you said
guess we're just waiting to die, alone

get a doggo or catto

>he can't control his state of mind with mere will power

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Joke's on me, DNA test revealed the worst possible thing about my resistant depression - I got both a mutation on the primary serotonin transporter (thus, no SNRI, SSRI, etc. will work on me, only atypicals), and the bitch of a luck of mine, monozygotal (double sided) A1298C mutation, making me unable to produce vitB9. Now I take downright silly amounts of l-methyl-folate to keep the depression at bay. At least I can say, shit works, with no side effects. If anyone has a depression fully resistant to meds, take a non-meme DNA test.

yesterday i had a decent day but it felt very manic and that worried me. today i feel like shit. the last few months all i've thought about is death and my meds aren't working at all. even before i started thinking about death all the time ive been severely depressed for about 6 years. when will it end

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>incel
>had sex
Jokes on you faggot. Just because I'm in abysmal state of depression doesnt mean I ddint get my dick wet. Now shoo roastie.