I've heard multiple times that PPL is a more advanced split and that beginners should start with something else?
Is this true, Jow Forums?
I've heard multiple times that PPL is a more advanced split and that beginners should start with something else?
Bentley Baker
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Charles Cox
PPL does not make any fucking sense
>Lift the barbell out of the rack
>Pull it into my body
>Push it back overhead
So the benchpress is literally every single movement of the entire routine. Good luck developing a balanced setup like that.
Retards
Adrian Kelly
Jose White
>Do starting strength
>If you have the means download/read the book
>afterwards do the bridge
Jayden Flores
It's a good routine if you like going to the gym 6 days a week. I do full body 3 days a week. I like it better and the gains are coming in fine
Levi Watson
Or if you feel up to it do the bodybuilding or hypertrophy template from barbell medicine
Logan Bennett
Starting Strength is a meme
Mason Hill
This. I've been doing 3 days a week for 4 years now and I'm fine.
I tried PPL for a time and it made me feel exhausted, like I wasn't resting enough.
Jayden Peterson
PPLxPPL to be more specific. PxPxLxx is a waste of time. I do Upper/lower splits. So UxLxUxL and repeat. Squat and deadlifts on lower body days. Bench press, ohp, pulldowns and rows on Upper body days.
Gavin Carter
I go 6 days a week for 1-2 hrs each day. At three days a week I would need to spend 2-4 hrs at the gym each day, which doesn't really work with my schedule.
Josiah Hill
You're really dumb bro.
OP, PPL seperates chest/shoulders from back/biceps/lats/triceps from legs in a 3 day split. It's a fact of anatomy that pushing and pulling separates the upper body in this way. Try it and do it if you enjoy it, I do PPL rest PPL rest
Tyler Hernandez
Push pull is the most retarded meme from fit, and I bet none of you know how to do the following in the “program “
>progressiy overload
>Insert gpp/conditioning
>have good Movement selection
>provide specific volume ranges
>know when to deload
>know how to prehab/rehab
Jason Long
How is it different from any other split in that regard?
Daniel Davis
How much do you
Press
Bench
Squat
Deadlift
If you can’t do 1/2/3/4 for 10 ea, your opinion is shit.
Michael Jones
PPLs can work for beginners depending on the type of PPL used. No idea why people think PPLs are just a single and universal routine.
Hudson Murphy
whats a good full body 3 day routine? i keep hearing people say its good but nobody ever gives a routine for that
Isaiah Stewart
Yeah you’re right, split training is silly
Isaiah Brooks
How's my split Jow Forums?
Push - Pull - Legs - Pull - Legs - Push - Rest
Angel Sanchez
Starting strength
Jace Perez
>Push has longest gap in work week
>Pull and legs one after another
Why
Isaac Wright
Post body fat boy
Brandon Miller
I know how to do all of those things, I don't understand why you'd think someone on PPL would somehow be ignorant to these basic techniques, you stupid fucking retard
Benjamin Cook
Whatever you do just don't fall for the SS meme unless you wanna look like shit
Camden Cox
Push, Pull, and Legs all have a repeat after 48 hrs, then a 5 day rest.
Camden Miller
Sure buddy
Brandon Edwards
Colton Ortiz
Aiden Ward
Yeah, you're fat.
Jose Reyes
And you’re weak
Ian Torres
i feel like 3x a week is too few for a beginner.
4-5x a week seems better. As a beginner you're only going to be in there for like 30-45minutes cuz your weight is light.
going to the gym a bunch of times a week gets you in a good habit of going.
Nicholas Turner
oh hello there first time around? welcome
Anthony Rodriguez
what about past that? i didn't mean for beginners, i meant for intermediate level lifters
Carter Ward
nice b8. I bet people will actually take it.
Jason Johnson
Let me guess, you're some retard that somehow expected aesthetics from a program that in no way shape or form suggested you would gain aesthetics?
The point of the program is to get you strong, fast.
It effectively gets you strong, fast.
It does what it's supposed to, you are the meme for expecting anything else you tool.
Jason Scott
eventually you'll tailor accessories to what you like but consult this chart if you're looking for cookie cutter routines.
Anthony Sullivan
SS is too quad dominated for my liking. Any other beginner programmes that gives equal attention to all muscle groups.
Benjamin Gonzalez
>as if gigantic quads are a bad thing
Jackson Russell
>SS is a meem
All the fags that say that rippletits noob program is meme have not read the book fact SS lacks volume in my opinion, also idiots never do assistance work solution for SS lack of volume? 4 days/week Heavy mainlift + supplementary lift + 3 multijoint accesories + Core + Isolation upper work
Day 1: Heavy Squat, Light Bench, Pullup or Chinup, Dips, Leg Curl/Leg Press/Leg Extension/Lunges/Front Squat/Goblet Squat/DL Variation (Dumbells, Hex bar, RDL, SLDL, Snatch Grip) Hanging Leg Raise/Ab Wheel Rollout, Curls/Tricep Extension/Dumbell Press/Chinese Oly Lifter Style Plate Lat raie/Face Pulls/Band Pull Apparts
Day 2: Heavy Deads, Light OHP, Clean/eg Curl/Leg Press/Leg Extension/Lunges/Front Squat/Goblet Squat, Dumbell Bench Press/Incline Press (Bar or DB), Upper Isolation work (Curls, Tricep work, Shoulder work)
Day 3 and 4 just alternate de heavier work, all days should have 10 minute dinamic warmups, I personally like to do 500m row before the warmup, all workdays have a 30 minute LISS session after lifting, off days are conditioning days aka playing any fucking sport you want+any form of cardio you like+bodyweight or light kettlebell work the whole muh recovery shit is fucktarded, unless you're sleeping 4-5 hours and under eating you won't crash and burn
Alexander Gomez
Nice
David Perez
dyel here, why would you do bench and ohp in the same day? Isn't it better to do them on separate day twice a week?
Jackson Clark
Yes
Ryder Mitchell
No one has ever been able to tell me why they recommend millions of different isolation exercises when you can just do 5 sets of 10 at 60% of your max of the same lift you just finished your heavy sets with.
Cameron Wilson
Muscles contract. They generate force by getting shorter while anchored at each end to two bones separated by a joint, thus creating leveraged movement of the skeleton. Large combinations of these leverage units coordinate to producing force against the physical elements of the environment, thus facilitating human movement.
All over the internet are references to “push/pull” workouts, that organize muscle groups into “pushing” and “pulling” functions. So what exactly is “pulling,” and what is “pushing”? The consensus seems to be that pulling involves causing the object in question to come towards the actor, while pushing involves moving the object away from the actor. Therefore, a bench press is a push and a deadlift is a pull.
Apparently, the “pushing” muscles are the tris, pecs, front delts, and quads. The pulling muscles are the hammies, the lats, and the glutes (using these terms to make people comfortable).
The most useful exercises in the gym are based on normal human movement patterns and not their constituent muscle groups, pushing and pulling are 1.) entirely arbitrary distinctions, given the fact that all muscles function by creating tension against levers, 2.) not particularly useful distinctions, given the fact that a deadlift, for example, is pushed away from the floor and a barbell row massacres your triceps, and 3.) are completely irrelevant to programming for strength training.
The best way to get strong is to load normal human movements progressively and incrementally, using a full range of motion with increasingly heavy weight, so that the most muscle mass can be used and therefore strengthened with each exercise. It takes about 4 different exercises to accomplish this – the squat, press, deadlift, and bench press – along with a couple of assistance exercises and maybe some cleans. It doesn't make any difference at all whether we are pushing or pulling while we are doing them. No difference. At all.
Jeremiah Stewart
40 dollars.... Anything free?
Jaxon Myers
not even that, they haven't read the sticky. Jow Forums was better when people spammed "read the sticky" because literally all you need to know is in there. Now the catalog is full of retarded threads that could be avoided if only people READ THE FUCKING STICKY
Daniel Ramirez
>49699128
google 7chan barbell medicine
Adrian Cruz
Don't fall for the SS meme. If your goal is to look good that is. Its ment to gain strenght, something only other men at the gym care about. PPL is fine
Parker Jones
None of that is PPL specific. I swear you losers shittalking routines are sub 80iq lunatics.
Thomas Gonzalez
>Isn't it better to do them on separate day twice a week?
No. Why would you think that? Learn 2 anatomy
Brandon Nelson
I did PPL for a year, and while it deffo got me aesthetc, i was still pretty weak. Only lift close to 1234 pl8 was ohp. Currently running grey skull lp which is great since you can still put in 1-2 plug ins for aesthetics while focusing on getting strong
Nicholas Davis
Evan Wright
Ö
Gavin Collins
>starting strength
>the bridge
SS is a massive meme and DYELS defend it out of some weird cult-like mentality
Isaiah Young
Baited
Jose Mitchell
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