Good afternoon, my Jow Forums brothers. I just finished church, and I wanted to give all of you a prayer for a strong and gainful week, and that Christ can watch over all of you during your hard times and bless you with good times.
Let's us talk about how The Lord has helped us overcome our problems this week, share scriptures, and plan to be stronger for next week
The very reason I breathe. I am nothing without Him. Humanity only has value because we are made in His image. I want to honor Him by crafting it into the best reflection of Him as possible.
not religious, but bump
Reminder that dressing sleek and cool af is a command in the bible.
Can't stand it when my fellow followers of Christ are walking around with poor fashion taste and un-tailored clothes.
Agreed. At the very least you can dress up nicely for the Lord on Sunday
This is a great thread idea I havent seen before. Went to service this morning, feeling good. Shitty weather but feeling extra blessed today.
not fitness related in the slightest. not even health related.
fuck off
Never been to church, but have been reading the Bible most days and consider myself Christian for the past two years.
What’s next? I want to feel connected to other Christians, but honestly I don’t know how to even begin to look for a church.
Remember 8 years ago when being an atheist is edgy? I kind of like people being spiritual more.
>what is working out your temple of a body
>what is strengthening your soul
>what is sacrifice
>what is Lord's Gym
Well you already know what is next. It can be hard to find a church, id recommend going to a different one each week and find one that agrees with you the most.
Why are protestant churches so ugly and noisy?
Absolutely this. Spiritual strength is the most important between it, physical, and mental
>what is working out your temple of a body
Not spirituality, but fitness put in faggoty language
>what is strengthening your soul
Learning but put in faggoty language
>what is sacrifice
losing something for the sake of gaining something else
>what is Lord's Gym
no clue
this is a fitness board, not a humanities one. Especially not an illogical humanities board
just ignore the thread friend. If you dont want to participate then just close the tab.
That doesn't stop the board from being shat upon by you now, does it?
>if you don't like the off topic spam then just ignore it
>if you don't like the constant faggotry then just ignore it
And then the same people wonder why boards are becoming more and more like /v/
>illogical
>atheists have yet to refute any arguments put forth on these threads
Atheism is truly are the most illogical religion out there.
>implying this is off-topic
>implying this isn't improving the quality of the board
Im sorry youre spending your Sunday so mad my guy. All love though, hope your day gets better.
What is Maslow's hierarchy of needs? Wonder why Jow Forums is full of trash like feels threads? That's because Jow Forumsizens aren't self-actualized. You can never be self-actualized as an atheist. It always leads to nihilism.
It is. Do you not think the entire concept of there being a magical pony plotting up in another dimension whilst using humans to support their ego by either rewarding them for unwavering loyalty by sending them up to their dimension or sending them off to some big bad guy who just so happens to be the pony's fallen best bud if they don't is illogical?
>What is Maslow's hierarchy of needs?
Other than a theory backed by no evidence?
>Wonder why Jow Forums is full of trash like feels threads?
because the Jow Forums raiders are pathetic as always
Imagine a board where looking at nearly naked harlots and plotting how to have sex is more acceptable than seeking Christ and strength through him
This must change
>tfw no bros to dress up and go to church with
Forgot pic
>not an argument
Nice strawman there atheist. But thanks for giving me a reason bump thread anyway.
Imagine a board where people act on their own sheer will to better themselves whilst also occasionally indulging in the other sex.
THIS MUST CHANGE
People get angry when you say nigger yet they take the lords name in vain constantly. Bunch of fucking niggers, they are
not him and i don't wanna debate but that image is logically flawed after the second step.
ontological argument fails at step one. It is not possible for a maximally great being to exist.
Can your maximally great being create a rock he cannot lift and then lift it? If he can't lift it, he's not maximally great and if he can, he didn't create a rock he cannot lift and is therefore not maximally great.
Yeah but imagine a board where people act on their own sheer will to be faggots whilst also occasionally indulging in the same sex.
There's nothing in the atheist worldview that can say that that is objectively morally wrong. The best you can say is, let them do them and you do you.
Autistic ramblings aside, I have been struggling putting on weight for the longest time. No matter how much i tried, something always got in the way. I got sick, I had nervous breakdowns from workload, etc. But since I started consulting the Lord for help, I've been managing a lot smoother. Now I get all my work done efficiently and have enough time to eat a lot and healthy. Recently hit 160lb, and planning on working up to 170lb. God is truly grrat
this board has done pretty well before you started spamming it up trying to introduce religion, you know?
>but muh omnipotence paradox
All atheists do is strawman. Very sad desu. You're defining omnipotence as the ABILITY TO DO ANYTHING. That's just dumb desu. It's like saying a "square circle" or a "married bachelor". That definition of omnipotence is inherently paradoxical. GOD cannot do everything: GOD cannot die. GOD cannot be weaker than something.
The Christian definition of omnipotence is just that: the STRONGEST POSSIBLE BEING.
But to answer your question. Can GOD create a rock that He cannot lift? Christians are Trinitarians atheist-kun, our Creator incarnated as a human being and struggled to carry a cross after being flogged and tortured. Pretty sure there are rocks heavier than that.
>weekly feels threads
>daily trap threads
>daily braphog threads
Christian threads are more recent than these and you're saying those were better?
>There's nothing in the atheist worldview that can say that that is objectively morally wrong.
moral nihilism != atheism
>GOD cannot do everything
then he is not maximally great, meaning there is either a greater being than him (which would again be impossible due to the omnipotence paradox) or the ontological argument is wrong.
Simply saying moral nihilism is not atheism tells me absolutely nothing. Atheism is at it's core nihilistic. We're all cosmic dust all going to die: no matter how good a person or a bad a person, the outcome is going to be the same. Evil does not exist in the atheist world view.
Its not fitness related, your holiness. Take your fan fiction and your gynecomastia to another board
You are aware you are arguing with a strawman right? Christians don't define omnipotence as "the ability to do anything". Your argument only works if that's how we define it. But we don't, omnipotence simply means there is no one, no thing, no process greater than GOD.
>Atheism is at it's core nihilistic
moral nihilism != nihilism. moral nihilism is the idea that there is no right or wrong. Nihilism means there is no meaning to life. One rejects the idea of morals near completely and the other is a philosophical concept
>Evil does not exist in the atheist world view.
hitler? stalin? mao? Ask any nihilist, let alone atheist and they'll still tell you they're evil. Humans have morals even without a religion guiding them
I'm off to sleep anyway. Abandon thread as it'll 404 as soon as the mods awaken anyway
>these are the people who bump trap threads
None of that was mentioned in the OP, and its all meta-fitness related anyway.
Also, church is where you go to be closer to God and recieve his blessing. Meaning you literally go there and beg for a handout from the big man, which is far from "strengthening" for your soul, weakling
god wants you to be a massive consumerist faggot
Then you're not an atheist. Objective morality only points to the existence of an objective moral standard. The belief in a higher code of conduct that transcends human subjectivity is as non-materialistic as it gets.
God gave you your soul. You ARE weak to him, that's why we work to strengthen ourselves and ask for His guidance
No. I dont care if youre a Christian, but people who act like you and have this attitude towards off-topic posting ruined /asp/. Go look at /asp/ right now and see how many alternative sports threads are up.
How would you like it if a bunch of Chads rolled up to the pews and started deadlifting them?
It is.
It isn't.
>How would you like it if a bunch of Chads rolled up to the pews and started deadlifting them?
Straightening the church, sounds wholesome. We'd pray together afterwards too
>if ur not me ur them xD
I report anything off topic and sage every one of my posts, unless I'm on my phone like right now. Traps included. Go.
>proving me right
So your soul is so weak that you need God? And have to beg him to guide you to boot?
>Even allowing religion into your life
Completely avoid everything religious and also politics, so they don't stress or bother my life. Makes life so much simpler.
>edgy atheist
No. I choose for religion to not have a part in my life but at the same time respect those who do. Christianity, atheism, Muslim , etc. I respect you guys exist and have no intentions of telling you your beliefs are wrong. Follow your spiritual ways for a better life absolutely.
Just stop posting on a fitness board please and thank you.
First premise is wrong. By definition objective moral values don't depend on any being existing or else they're subjective. Using God as a metaphor is fine, but these simplistic arguments about existence are silly.
>objective moral values don't depend on any being existing or else they're subjective
You don't understand what God or objectivity means. A compass/GPS makes a map objective. You need something to ground morality on to make it objective. God isn't just a being, GOD is MORALITY itself. Something IS NOT right simply because God says it's right, it IS right because it emulates God's character.
I've been climbing this machine called the Jacob's Ladder. You basically climb a ladder in place, like a treadmill. I climb with an image of Christ in front me; a small card I found in church. I climb listening to Gregorians. I climb
>makes life so much simpler
Ignorance truly is bliss. This is the ultimate cope of the non believer. You'll have no excuse when you stand before the judgment throne of God. And you will, I will tell you this right now.
Then there's cunts like you who try to force religion. Convert or face punishment.
Unbased, unfollowed, and cringed
Wow this is very mental health positive thank you
Look who's projecting? So you do believe you're a sinner and going to hell. I'm not forcing religion on you, just warning you of the consequences of your actions. If you see a person walking towards a cliff, do you tell that person to continue or do you tell him to stop? If you hate that person, you'd tell them to continue. I don't get the vitriol from atheists like you. I geniunely care about you, I'm telling you to stop. You think I simply do this to win arguments? Score Jesus points?
Jesus loves you. It doesn't have to be that way, you don't have to pay tithe, you don't have to give money to the church, you don't have to go to church, you don't even have to debate random atheists online to be saved. What's keeping you from coming to Christ user?
>God isn't just a being, GOD is MORALITY itself
Great, so he's a metaphor. And a redundant one since you could just go straight to the attributes if they're really objective and unchanging.
Reminder that the Bible was composed and declared to be divinely inspired by the Catholic Church, and you can't both accept the Bible to be the word of God and deny the God-given authority of the Church
>atheism is the opium of the masses
The absolute state of materialists. You're limiting God to a physical being. God isn't physical, so He's not a metaphor of morality. He is MORALITY itself. Which is why you can go straight to the attributes.
Where do you get the basis of morals anyway? Consensus? Then that's not objective, it's subjective. Consensus changes, God stays the same.
>all of these narcissists and edgelords not talking about lifting or nutrition
Oh my god MODS its off topic MODS if you're not gonna make me a jannie then delete the fucking threads yourselves MODS
>So you do believe you're a sinner
That's projecting.
Calling out your thinly veiled 'there will be consequences' as a threat isn't projecting.
not him, but do you believe God is a person that you can have a personal relationship?
/asp/ died because gookmoot made it home for the rasslefags after /sp/ jannies sharted all over his inbox.
I like tarot cards
I'm not threatening you with anything. Calling out that you're about to fall into a pit is not the same with threatening to throw you into the pit.
this site has taken contrarianism way too far.
>imagine thinking you'll make it while believing in laws made by a god
All the churches around me are fag friendly. Ive been listening to sermons on youtube on sunday but the lack of confession worries me.
Also, any good podcasts or youtube channels?
THERE IS NO MAKING IT WITHOUT THE LAW
>You're about to fall into a pit
Is the same as
>Commit to Christianity or you'll burn in hell
Ok
Because your example is being careful of single threat while what you're actually implying is you have join this team or you're gonna fall into the pit.
They're not the same thing at all and I feel you should know better then that
GOD is the highest greatest possible "thing" there can be. The greatest force, power, concept period. That "thing", non-physical He may be has revealed Himself to us in three Persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. All three are completely GOD, yet are all separate persons. So yes GOD is a person, and 2000 years ago, He came to us in physical form. We can have a relationship with Him. This relationship is what guarantees us salvation.
Simply accepting Christ's free gift is what gets you to heaven. There is nothing you can do to be saved, no amount of good works can get you into heaven. It's so easy, God wants you to be saved so much that He came and paid the price we should have.
Blessings of the Lord unto you, my brothers
when I see white families. churches and Christian morality I get disgusted. We need to spread atheism and diversity more than ever.
That's because joining this team is literally what prevents you from going to hell. That's what I believe. I don't want you to go to hell: and that's the only to not go to hell. Now what I believe hell to be, that's different from mainstream Christianity as I am an annihilationist. Nevertheless I still don't want you to go to hell. I literally want to be able to meet you in heaven, not even memeing. I don't need your tithe, I don't need you to join my church, all I want you to do is accept Christ and His life-changing power and be saved.
you're lack of faith that the Lord can save you from your sinful ways has led you to despair, user. I tell you this out of sincerity. Faith alone in the works of Jesus is not enough to achieve salvation. Don't be led astray from the teachings of Christ's Church because Her demands for salvation are so high. Have faith that the Lord will sanctify you while you still have the chance.
just got home from mass. It really sucks not receiving communion but I skipped confession yesterday because I was sick as a dog. Haven't got it in like a month because I'm trying to change my ways before I ask for forgiveness, but I ran into the cycle of finding the next thing to change and just kept putting it off. Also there was this skittish qt who was awkwardly walking down her pew to shake hands with people at the peace be with you part and she came up to shake my hand but I just gave her the awkward wave and told her I was sick. But damn, qt's like that just warm my heart. Usually everyone just ignores me
Kek, tell that to all the Christian men raising black children their wives felt "called" to adopt
Do this or else is a threat, sorry user.
Look out for the pit gives me options on how to avoid the pit, what you're suggesting is a threat.
The fact that this stems from a post that said 'I respect each religion' and that triggered you to be aggressive and defensive shows that you actually might be a little unstable. That or a troll. I glad you have Christianity but I'll also advise that you seek professionally mental help. No one I knows acts that aggressive to such a neutral statement about religion in general.
Now like I've said, I don't like bringing religion into my life. It's not ignorance like you said, I'm aware of the consequences that each religion has for being a non-believer. I just don't let it weigh me down. And now you're just back peddling, so I'll leave it at this. Good luck on your spiritual journey.
not him but that first statement is retarded. warning you of a consequence is not a threat
Acts17 Apologetics has a nice apologetics podcast. He does stuff on atheism and Islam but mostly Islam nowadays. Alpha and Omega is a good apologetics podcast too, but Dr James White is a calvinist so more often than not, he's critiquing non-calvinists. I'm a Protestant so I don't know any Catholic ones but I watch old videos of Archbishop Fulton Sheen like they were one. Brother Nathanael is a Jew who converted to the Eastern Orthodoxy does commentary on current events. He really hates on the Jews, but his story of how he found Christ and left Judaism is inspiring.
How am I being aggressive and defensive? I'm telling you that you're literally walking into a pit of your own doing and the reason I don't want you to fall in it is because I care about you. I'm not threatening you with the pit whatsoever. You're the one who needs mental help bro, quit projecting your aggression towards those who disagree with you onto me.
Cope all you like, you are seeing God in judgment day and should you keep up the way you're doing and willingly blind yourself to this: you are ending up in hell. Salvation is free bro, doesn't have to be that way.
Who’s that?
No, you misunderstood me user. Salvation is by faith alone, but true faith is a working faith. Works do not bring salvation, but genuine salvation will bring you to perform works. A person cannot save themselves by doing good works, because absolute perfection is required, and if we sin even once, we have fallen short of that perfection. This is why Christ lived a the perfect life for us, and died the death that we deserved.
We can change, we can grow in Christ for in Him all things are possible. But us changing is not a requirement for salvation, changing is a product of salvation.
Gentle reminder that Jesus wasn't White
Didn't look like that either. Didn't have locs, didn't have extremely long hair, didn't have black hair. Read your bible.
Yeah he was a Jew.
How the fuck do people forget this?
>Read your bible.
he was brown jew
Oh but we do have a prayer for Satan, it's called the prayer to St. Michael.
When I say salvation I mean being judged by Christ at the end of our life as being "worthy" of heaven (in the sense that we are good enough to have made it). With that, salvation is not guaranteed by faith in God. The Bible and the Church are both very clear on that. Additionally, you're misunderstanding the role of Christ's death. Through his passion and death he has assured us the possibility to be freed from sin by the ability to share in his suffering by carrying our own cross. While it is not possible to live a life without sin, we can still participate in the paschal mystery. It is by this willingness to accept our cross that we achieve salvation.
Also Im not saying we can do it ourselves. That is impossible. Only through our willingness to accept the graces given by God can this happen
Thanks bro.
Is there a good scriptural basis for depicting Jesus as an especially fit man?
He was a carpenter prior to power tools
Jesus work is only mentioned in Mar 6:3, they call Him a carpenter. His father was also a carpenter and that is mentioned in Matt 13:55. Most children in that day took the occupation of their father as soon as they became a man, which was 12 years old at the time. The word used for carpenter in those verses meant "builder". He was basically a construction worker before power tools were invented. He worked mostly with stone, but also with wood and steel. During His temptation in the wilderness, He fasted 40 days straight. So imagine a built, manual laborer who fasted 40 days and you have what Jesus looked in the beginning of His ministry. You don't lose 2 decades of gains during a 40 day fast btw, so He was definitely ripped.
Jesus is everything to me, praise Him eternally
That's where we disagree user. Salvation is by grace through faith ALONE (Ephe 2). It's only GOD'S work, not His plus ours, only His. We all become worthy of heaven through faith because GOD sees Christ's righteousness in us, and not our own. When the prison guard asked St Paul how one can obtain salvation, he simply answered "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved" (Acts 16:31). The thief was promised Salvation even after a life of sin, and accepting accepting Christ in his final moments (Lk 23:43). Salvation is guaranteed because Jesus lived a perfect life and therefore is our perfect Priest (Heb 7:20-28). So faith does guarantee salvation. Christ died once and for all (Room 6), there is nothing we have to do anymore, but put our faith on Him. We still do works because Jesus Himself commanded us to (Matt 5:48, In 14:15), and this is evidence of true living faith (James 2). To say we still need to do something more to be saved implies that Christ's sacrifice was not enough, and the aforementioned verses show that it was MORE than enought. But again, we should still work and strive for perfection before Christ literally commanded us to do so.
Brother says your deadlift sucks. God doesn't like it. He says, "Work more, gaining more. Long term will work best." Not enough material.