Who fell for the SS/SL + bulk meme when starting?

Who fell for the SS/SL + bulk meme when starting?

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Uh Im on the second day. Is it something i shouldnt be doing? Is 5x5 better? Why does everyone seem to contradict each other I just want to quit looking like a twig):

What is SL though?

It doesn't matter an enormous amount. The point of starting with a strength routine is to recruit muscle fibres you already have, and either routine will get you started.

You WILL get stronger. and bigger ;)

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starting lifts

Who does starting strength and expects to have that low body fat?

>inb4 powerbloaters coming in here sating you need to bench x before you can look good

Well thanks for being sort of helpful... Everyone shits on these but no one will give me a straight answer on what I should be doing instead. I just want to get fit and this board makes fun of me for not knowing everything they do and being unwilling to teach. Its frustrating to say the least

Why can no one respond with an alternate program?

Just don't do it for more than 6 months or so or you'll get fat.

Okay thanks. SL or SS?

Start with something, learn where your weaknesses are, watch YouTube videos on how to improve form and things like "Workouts for (____)"

Then just make a program that you feel like works for you, with lifts that don't injure your joints but you can still get muscle soreness with.

It took about 3 months of dicking around in a gym for me to figure out all of my weaknesses, and have watched enough YouTube content to know how to warmup, strengthen my weaknesses, and cooldown so I dont injure my body which hadn't been worked out in probably over 10 years. And I'm 24.

Run SS for three or four months and hop on something else.

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SL

This is terrible advice, lad doesn't know whether or not to do starting strength and your saying make your own program?

Thanks. Contradictory answers are better than none
Whats your opinion? Starting strength?

Hijacking thread, non ss related

Why dont i ache in the morning, i recently rejoined gym after 1yr break
In all my other periods of breaks/returns, i ache after a muscle group

Now? No matter how hard i try i cant get an ache, infact the opposite muscles ache
So i do chest PR to fail 5x5. I literally cant do anymore, then the next morning my chest is totally fine but my lats ache
I do arms until fail yesterday but today there is no pain except in shoulders. My bicep is totally fine, but i literally couldnt curl another rep and even done chinups until fail after

I literally did shoulders until fail like i couldnt push anymore and the day after my shoulders are fine, no pain
This is really frustrating. Im convinced im not focusing on the muscle group and im tensing my tendons and back to lift the weight instead of engaging the muscle tissue, maybe im lifting too heavy? I really want to ache again like i used to. Wtf is wrong

Add accessory work you fucks, Bicep curls, skull-crushers, narrow-grip bench press, Dumbbell t-seal rows,more curls more skullcrushers more rows. Its all it takes

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Pic related is an oldie but a goodie, user's altered version of SS for aesthetics.

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Post body and lifts please. If you think you can look like you lift without being at least somewhat strong you are in for a sad surprise.

>Everyone shits on these but no one will give me a straight answer on what I should be doing instead
That's because they're either memeing or even more clueless than you. All the novice programs mentioned in the sticky are great starting points and way better than anything a gym instructor will tell you to do.

You fell for the "I believe I'm gonna look like a fitness model in 6 months" meme. Shit takes at least 2 years (longer if you're a fatty) and by then you should have already left linear 5x5 programs behind. It's not SS's fault you're an uninformed retard.

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Pain/effort/tiredness does not necessarily equal to results. If you run on the threadmill you'll get more tired and might get sorer legs than lifting, but that does not translate into hypertrophy nor strength gains. If your numbers are going up and your form is good, that's all that matters.

DOMS is not a measure of a good work out. Once your body gets used to it, you may not feel DOMS anymore.

It's why pumpchasers and people who focus too much on how a workout feels rather than just sticking to a plan end up with a programming crisis when they plateau.

Maybe up your volume or try some weird variations. Maybe you'll hit an undertrained muscle group.

but I have

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I suggested SL but it has an app that’s really helpful and there’s trustworthy sources. Use the Stronglifts website to read more about it. There’s success stories and video lessons on how to do compounds with proper technique. Sure, the app has some paid features (like calculating the plates needed for a certain increase) but if you’re literate enough you can do better without throwing money down the drain with the free version and a proper diet/rest (cardio is optional).