/fast/ - #392 - DON'T CRY FOR ME EDITION

Im 6 days into a sj fast and am about 14% bf. At this point is it advisable to change to something like OMAD to preserve muscle mass and general health or continue with the fast? Goal is to hit 10-12% bf and currently I’m starting to feel lethargic although I don’t feel hunger at all.

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Is Snake Juice suppose to taste like raw fish? This shit is disgusting.

Just sharted a stinky fucking shite outta my ARSE

it's only been five hours of water only and my blood sugar has dropped i feel shaky and weak when will this feeling go away

>five hours
What the fuck? How do you not die in your sleep?

what a fucking baby

yeah technically it's been 22 hours but i meant five since waking up and not having energy is distracting me from work

FIFO or LIFO nobody knows

>working saturday
wageslave

takes about 2-3 days to get used to keto

Damn, it's only been 4 days and already my skin feels much tighter. Fasting is literally the best thing out there, don't know why it took so long to get through more than a day of it before.

I ate so fucking much today I'm constantly hungry I can eat a big meal every hour or so and still not feel full what the FUCK is wrong with me

No your mineral sources must be whack if it tastes like fish.

It's almost like there's more to hunger than what your brain signals you
God, I wish it tasted like raw fish. Raw salmon especially, shit's DOPE

Top two are in the wrong order. Fasting is traditional & used in religions, so more right wing.

I just put it in the freezer for about an hour and now it's drinkable.

Yeah, this seems more accurate

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On day 8 of a fast. Wike up to cramps and weakness. Do I need more sodium or is it time to do a refeed?

Even better

It's economic-left vs economic right.
The joke is that Authoritarian-Economic-Left (Communism) endorses starvation, user.
Authoritarian-Economic-Right wants you to buy things that don't solve the underlying issue.
Libertarian cooks have been reduced to tabloid science because the lowest common denominator controls their market.

why does fasting feel so good and so bad at the same time

Anyone else read chick novels in bed? It helps me sleep and all. I'm reading Luck of the Draw now.

No. I'm pretty sure that shit rots your brain.

Noob question, but, what does insulin help me with?

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Kek I suppose if you assume Authoritarian-Economic-Right = techno-capitalist dictatorship then that could hold, but the political compass is so reductionist that it can mean a lot of things. But this is not Jow Forums so I won't sperg over the details.

"insulin spike" is a meme, as long as you're still not eating anything it doesn't matter at all.

Is it safe to lift while on a 30h+ fast, and if it's "it depends on how long you fast", how long is it safe to lift and fast at the same time without extreme fatigue and risk for whatever bad can happen?

This is Jow Forums, we take everything to its most absurd conclusion. What are you, some kind of principled centrist?

That's where it's supposed to come from, user. Don't worry until it starts coming from somewhere else.

I'm just gonna ignore everything my body tells me and I'm gonna fast for fuck's sake it's so hard and boring and I'd rather suck dicks than fast it's that bad

30 hours, no problem. 48+ and you need to deload to avoid muscle damage.

Not at all, I would consider myself in the upper right quadrant but am quite anti-capitalist, so your explanation doesn't resonate. I'm sure it wouldn't resonate with a lot of other right wing dissidents either. 5/10 meme imo.

I'm 5'11 ft and 158 lb

Is fasting really necessary for me?

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Doubt it. As a 5'11 180, I'd kill to be only 158.
However, in an effort to not murder anyone, I'm fasting instead.

It's necessary if your waistline exceeds 30".

That's pretty low for your height. Check your BF% before fasting. Under 10% and you risk health problems.

Hour 13 of 48. Ate pizza hut yesterday like a retard. Will report back.

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Got a 10% off coupon for Pizza.
Sorry Fast.

Btw, what do you think about eating every 3 days?

I'm 5'11" 210, I'd die to be 180.
>18% BF
My goal weight should probably be ~190.
Lent soon; excited for this cut.

Pretty silly since the third day is the worst part. If you want to lose weight, just keep going after day 3
195cm here. I'm close to the 100kg mark. Haven't been this lean since fucking highschool. It's the first time that my goal for the summer is abs instead of "not as much fat". Fasting may very well be the best thing ever

Wait, is everyone here like seriously overweight? Have I fallen for some meme? I'm going to assume a BMI of 27 makes me legible to fast

Why would you be fasting unless you want to slim down or fix health issues? Of course most people here are overweight. /fast/ is basically /fat/ that woke up

No. Lots of people are, because fasting is extremely effective for obese people, but there are plenty of people who are only moderately overweight (20-25% BF) and people who are in a healthy range but want to cut down to abs (13-19% BF).

Based. Are you gonna try for a full forty days and forty nights? I would, but I'm gonna be in Japan for most of it and I'm trying to do at least OMAD there since there'll be so many new things to try.

The Lent season is actually 46 days, because the Sundays are exempt from fasting. I don't intend to eat on the Sundays, 'cause from prior experience I'd rather not reset my fast every week and go through that initial window repeatedly.
I'll start March 11th (Orthodox), and try to reach April 27th. I'm not sure I have enough body fat to get there, though. Currently force-feeding myself to put on more fat. I'll be tracking myself daily with Navy Tape method (my most consistent method) and skinfold calipers (I have trouble taking these measurements consistently). If I drop too low, I'll have to consider breaking early. I should probably not go below 185 lbs, which means I have 25 lbs to work with - which is not a lot of weight to spread over 46 days, considering that I lift and run 6 days a week.

You're not wrong, I'm just 25 pages in and it's pure garbage. Further proof of how men and women have entirely different tastes. I'll still keep reading it because why not

My bmi is 45 bro

Oooh Japan, land of the rising sun! Send us some postcards eh

Your level of insulin signals your body to store a proportional amount of what you eat as fat.

The lower your insulin levels, the more of what you eat is used as energy instead of stored as fat.

All three macro nutrients trigger 'spikes' in insulin production, but Carbs trigger the largest, by a wide margin, too. This is what the various low-carb diets build off of, keeping insulin levels low by eating high amounts of fat and/or high protein and cutting carbs.

However, this is where fasting excels; eating absolutely nothing will always be the fastest way to lower insulin levels. If you control your insulin levels, you control your weight losses and gains. So remember, glucose is the key, if your body lacks it then insulin levels drop and you start making it from fat. Your liver stores about 24 hours worth of Glycogen (the storage form of Glucose) depending on your diet in the past few days, so once you expend that store of Glycogen then your body starts burning 100% body fat.

TLDR; control insulin levels by regulating your glucose intake and you can control the weight you gain and lose. stop eating sugar.

is it okay to fast for 3 days, eat for 1 and repeat until you're down to your goal weight

Won't work

what are you eating during you refeed window, and how much of it?

yeah, you CAN lose weight doing 3 day fast/1 day refeed, but if on your refeed day you eat fuck loads of carbs then it's going to take that much longer to return to ketosis and back to burning fat. my recommendation; eat one meal on your refeed day that is high in protein and low in carbs, or better yet zero carb.

if you want to lose weight the absolute quickest way possible, then you just fast on snake juice until you reach your weight. you will not die.

if you want to lose weight quickly but dont have the discipline to fast for 10+ days at a time, then just fast for a minimum of 2-3 days, OMAD on zero carbs for your refeed, and start fasting again.

if you can't muster the will to even do THAT, then fucking go to Jow Forumsfasting and settle for shitty 24 hour fasts that make you feel like you're doing something but in reality you're losing the same weight you would if you just stopped drinking fucking sugar.

Are raw egg proteins really 50% indigestible?

This might really fuck up my cut.

Sure, but day 3 is the worst point. Snd you're repeating it over and over. If you get to 72 and want to lose more weight the only reason not to keep going is lack of faith.

Based. I was 230 at 5'11. It gets harder the lower you go. I'm at 175 now.

yes thats what ive been doing for 3 months and lost 40 ibs

Sounds like magnesium to me. I usually start supplementing it after 7 days

Losing weight is just calories in calories out, its just that dont listen to the starvation mode or no carb keto memers, if you fast every 3 days then you will lose weight since youre at a deficit fasting longer just speeds up weight loss

I'll go get some magnesium supplements then. Thanks.

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So basically it doesn't matter if I drink artificial sweeteners? How do you get the full benefits of fasting if the sight or smell of food spikes your insulin?

A good way to lose your appetite is to go to a Jow Forums tranny thread and look at the surgeries post op.

but what happens if you eat nothing but insulin still spikes, like drinking 0 cal drinks with artificial sweetners?

Stay safe

ok so just been playing autism simulators like ck2 for 12 hours a day and its like everything else around me just phases out during that time, fasting is pretty easy if you have some kind of mild autism it looks like

Duly noted

If I cant find epsom salt for snake juice, will magnesium pills be okay?

I cant claim to know the answer, sorry

So can I lift while fasting for plus 36 hours? As soon as I start showing I am in ketosis on the strips I do 1 hour of walking on an incline 10% at 3mph which burns calories whilst avoiding muslcle breaks down but I really just want to lift. I am already low body fat at around 12% so I am just cutting with visible abs already. But I really just want to commit a 5 day fast and get down to 8% ideally. But the inability to lift saddens me.

Can you lift while fasting? What’s the worst that can happen?

>42 hours into what’s supposed to be a 30 day fast
>Head hurts incredibly bad, feel incredibly weak, (getting out of bed is a chore), constantly hungry
>Have work tomorrow

Jesus guys what do I do!? I’m trying to cut from 180 to 160 (No muscle mass at all, trying to eventually reach auschwitz mode at 140) at over 25% bodyfat (5’10)

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Same here. How am I supposed to hunt the mammoth, if two raccoons would be enough to overpower me?

Be the mammoth

How do you feel mentally? If you are good, keep going. Don't worry too much about how you feel physically unless you are blacking out or vomiting. Personally once I hit 12% I'd switch to OMAD but it's up to you.

I'll try! At least most Japanese meals are fairly calorie-light, though rice is a big fat load of carbs.

Dude I feel like a mammoth that’s about to collapse on the tundra

>drink Snake Juice (important)
>understand that most discomfort in the first 72hrs is just in your head
>it will pass
>keep fasting
What's the problem?

Meant for

>What’s the worst that can happen?
You won't be hitting a PRs and might lose strength. Muscle breakdown is a meme BUT don't go heavy because in some cases that can cause muscle breakdown, scale back to like 70%.

Stick through it. The first 2 days are the hardest.

I didn’t know I was supposed to start snake juice on day 2

>refeed
>immediately feel like shit
>jittery, leg cramps, feel like you're gonna throw up, tunnel vision
WHAT IS THIS

Try it out. You may be depleted of electrolytes, especially if you started your fast with low levels. I don't know how much you've been drinking and pissing but it's possible you need sodium.

I had like 10 Clif Bars and a can of spam before starting

some of yall trolls think you slick dont you

KEK FUCKING TRY IT OUT M8 POINT IS YOU GOTTA KEEP FASTING

i've been trying to fast for months. i've gained weight. the family is getting chinese. i kinda feel like telling them not to get me anything but i already said what to get.

Do you live with parents? You'll have to tell them your goal or else that kind of thing will keep happening.

What did they do? force feed you?
Quit being a bitch.

High insulin refeed?

yes. i tell them i'm fasting all the time, but they mostly ignore it. i end up eating anyway. but i told them not to get it.

Tell 'em you're doing OMAD, but always have that "one meal" be at lunch when you're away from them and then just don't eat instead. Families are a lot more accepting of OMAD.