/SPIRITUAL/ SUNDAY FITNESS THREAD

You don't suffer for eternity, your incompatible soul is destroyed and you are lost to oblivion forever, aka what you already believe is going to happen.

Hell is reserved for the devil, that currently controls the material world.

God isn't real whether you like it or not. There's 5 billion people who don't believe what you do. Religion, afterlife and higher powers are copes created by the human psyche.

No one is forcing anything onto your retard ass, close the thread and cry elsewhere >>reddit/r/atheism

Nominal Christians don't represent the teachings of the Bible or God. Maybe read it some time. The church is rotten to the core, but God is eternal and glorious.

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Its not literal

You faggots push your fairy tales in every thread. Find yourself your own imageboard

Enjoy burning in hell, filthy heretic

I don't care if they don't believe what I do, the vast, vast majority of humans are automata with no soul that are animals wrought in the shape of a human. It doesn't matter whether they believe in God or not, in the same way it doesn't matter whether a dog believes in God or not.

Why are you so offended by it?
Did somebody touch you as a kid? Do you need therapy? Quit whining, you sorry excuse of a "man"

>the bible is the literal word of God. Except for when it makes us look bad.

Ok

>haven’t fapped (fapping is okay, btw, but porn is sinful. just trying to recharge because of fapping 3-4 times a day before)
>haven’t drank as much
>haven’t smoked
>haven’t had premarital sex
>been running more
>been eating better and treating my body like a temple
>have been kinder to others and not so narcissistic
>been generous to friends and family
>have been feeling better about my current state of life overall

Mfw following God’s word changes your life for the better and I can’t believe people are unironically atheists.

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I hate my entire family because of this, they are inundated in sin and don't see the error of their ways. That said, hate is different from "disown".

>God is real

You need to be able to prove your claims. Can you prove god exists? Why should I believe it if you can't?

If you understand the concept of sin then you would understand that it is righteous to hate the unrepentant, including family.

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Try fasting as well

Hell isn't real either

>I am better than others because I think I am
No you're shit, in fact with your mentality you're more shit than most of humanity.

Project harder. I'm not offended by it, I'm harassing you faggots so you fuck off.

Most of humanity lacks the divine spark, I don't expect you to understand this.

No, you're just a faggot who believes in fairy tales to make yourself feel better about everybody you've ever known that dies and to comfort you.

>I'm not offended
>p-please fuck off :'(
Pathetic.

What do you think God is Christianon? When you think of God what do you imagine?

What a sad, miserable creature you are. May God have mercy on you.

The only thing that's pathetic is your feel good fairy tales

See

God won't have mercy because God isn't real.

You're so full of angst and hatred that I can't but feel bad for you :/ hope your life gets better soon, user

God is more that can be imagined, because He is infinite. There is no way to comprehend what God is. We can only understand the finite universe He created, and His effects on it.

You can't imagine something outside the universe, you can't imagine what it's like being dead, you can't imagine what it was like before the universe.

That's just like, your opinion, man.

Because you, a finite, mortal man says so?

I'm quite happy actually. You're allowed to keep projecting though.

That's like what any actual facts point to, man.

So, no?

>Therefore, since as soon as the word "God" is understood itexistsmentally, it also follows that itexistsactually. Therefore the proposition"God exists"is self-evident.

Are you actually serious?

>ButGodistruthitself: "I am the way, thetruth, and the life" (John 14:6) Therefore"God exists"is self-evident.

Using the bible to justify the bible?

I'm assuming the rest of this is the same half assed excuses, fallacious arguments and apologetics? Honestly from what I read I can infer that Brahma, Odin, Zues, Ra etc. Could all be the creator of the universe.

Is He considered outside the universe because he is immaterial?

"And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly."(Matthew 6:5-6)

Why do you go against the bible user?

Because God was created by mortal men to be so much better than all other gods to convert and grow a following. You'd know that if you actually paid attention in school and didn't get brainwashed as a child.

Yes, God is outside the universe, along with demons, angels, and Satan. He manifested himself in material form as Jesus. God set the universe into motion and let events transpire on their own, with or without His influence. Lesser, finite entities like Satan have a limited scope of influence on the material plane, although Satan has dominion over Earth, which is why Earth is so brutal.

That verse doesnt make christians look bad at all unless you are autistic and cant see the difference between literal and figurative speech. Jesus spoke in parables and used hyperbole in almost everything he said and that verse is no different

>That's like what any actual facts point to, man.
Science cannot prove whether God is real or not, it is foolish of you to think that it can.

Is God the source of Goodness itself?

>You'd know that if you actually paid attention in school and didn't get brainwashed as a child.

Alright, now I know you're baiting.

God is the source of all that is good, He is completely incompatible with evil in a fundamental way, like two magnets of the same polarity repelling each other. This is why the souls of those who do not accept Christ's sacrifice to remove their sin have to be destroyed.

What's are the actual facts? What happened before the universe? Why do we exist?

Yo, desperate virgins looking for answers, stop meme'ing yourselves into unironic religiosity

You know this is a load of shit, turn around before you fuck yourself in a way you can't unfuck

Science can only disprove. Science can't prove anything.

t. Brainwashed adult

>I hate my entire family and myself. This is completely normal.

>turn around before you fuck yourself in a way you can't unfuck
Elaborate

>lol just embrace nihilistic materialism and consume consume consume

We don't know exactly
That's the difference between what's truth and what's fiction. Fiction claims to have all the answers and if you follow fiction you'll find truth. Truth doesn't know everything and isn't afraid to admit where it falls short.

Do you suppose that the material realm is imperfect? and are our souls of the same immaterial nature as God?

>Science can't prove anything
We both know that's not true, you're trying really hard not to sound stupid, it is not working, but you are trying nonetheless and I respect you for that.

I'm not that user but some scientists would disagree with you. Specifically the instrumentalists. They'd say science gives us predictive power but no facts about reality.

Lmao the projection abilities of christfags are amazing.

The material realm is imperfect, flawed, finite, and transient. Everything, everyone will crumble to dust in the end. Even the brightest of stars will fade away, as you may understand. It is quite literally the opposite of what God is. And yes, our souls have the same transcendental, immaterial nature as God. Our souls are bound to our bodies, which operate under the laws of physics, and serve as vessels in which the soul can perceive and interact with its environment, in order to develop. The brain functions like an antenna for the soul. When the material body dies, it is up to God to decide what happens to the soul.

Nice argument buddeh

Science doesn't prove anything and thinking otherwise signals you are a smooth brain.

Atheistcucks gtfo

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One day they will "gtfo" for all eternity, thank God for that.

Science has proven many things to be true throughout the history of mankind, attempting to twist reality does not make the things you say become truth.

Amen

Science hasn't proved anything to be true, it's only disproven what is not true. Like science has disprove that the earth is flat, not proved anything else, because there's always some new evidence that can come along that can disprove something.

>youtube.com/watch?v=_RfUj09pWfM

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>Like science has disprove that the earth is flat, not proved anything else
Science proved that the earth is round. Retard.

You probably post in fph threads about how fatties deny bmi scale and thermogenesis.

Do you expect these brainlets to understand science?

Science doesn't prove anything it disproves. I don't see why this is so hard for you retards to grasp.
>you believe in God
Oh wait, I understand why now. Carry on.

I can disprove you're not a faggot

>athiestnigger has autism and cant read

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>Ad Hominem
Argument has been won boys :^)

I know you're pretending to be a Christfag ironically, but fuck, man. Tone it down a bit.

If faggots fuck other men, and only ever fucked women and find the very thought of even kissing another man repulsive. Then I am not a faggot.

>The material realm is imperfect, flawed, finite, and transient. Everything, everyone will crumble to dust in the end. Even the brightest of stars will fade away, as you may understand. It is quite literally the opposite of what God is.
Do you agree with me that this means God, and all other unchanging immaterial objects, should be considered more real than an imperfect and ever-changing material world?

Also, considering you say the material realm is imperfect, do you believe there a perfect immaterial realm from which all imperfect material exists in reference to? Such as me remarking "these two similar stones are somewhat but not quite equal to each other", I am already referencing a perfect conception of equalness when comparing the two objects. I also assume that if these sort of things of the same immaterial nature as God were to really exist, their perfection would be imparted to them from God. Would you agree?

Ad hominems are only applicable when you have no evidence. I have the evidence that you can't grasp that science only disproves and that you believe in God. Therefore you are retards.

thank you brother for making these threads. i too was a fedora athiest for a long time but threads like these eventually helped me to convert. God bless you

>I-it's not literal you guys.

No! thats not true because science cant prove anything

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That's logic 101, not science. Go back to high school, retard.

Yup. Jesus spoke in parables and hyperbole and told stories to illistrate a point. A sign of Autism is not being able to comprehend these concepts

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Didn't feel like going to mass today, kinda regret it tho. I'll just pray at home today, there's always next week. Keep working on your spiritual gainz, brothers.

kek'd

>Do you agree with me that this means God, and all other unchanging immaterial objects, should be considered more real than an imperfect and ever-changing material world?

Yes. This is an astute observation.

>Also, considering you say the material realm is imperfect, do you believe there a perfect immaterial realm from which all imperfect material exists in reference to? Such as me remarking "these two similar stones are somewhat but not quite equal to each other", I am already referencing a perfect conception of equalness when comparing the two objects. I also assume that if these sort of things of the same immaterial nature as God were to really exist, their perfection would be imparted to them from God. Would you agree?

Plato described God basing the universe on archetypes, which is similar to what you have described. However, as I understand it, everything within the universe is material, and obeys the laws that God set into effect. There is no perfect reference for a stone; it is the product of elements interacting with each other according to the laws of physics and space-time. God did, however, have a vision for the universe when He created it.

>convinced to convert religion by a vietnamese snail racing forum.
Wew you christfags really are impressionable as fuck.

Suck a dick you brainlet retard

If I was told "water is wet" on an internet forum, and believed it, would that make me impressionable?

How would you have gone your entire life not knowing that water is wet?

How would you have gone your entire life without realizing that God is real and Christ died for your sins on the cross so that you may live eternally?

Because 5 billion people think that's a load of bullshit.

I already knew Christfags can't logic, but it's another thing entirely to see it in person. This is embarrassing.

How exactly does an innocent man being murdered cover for my sins? We recognized how barbaric a practice scapegoating is a long time ago, but somehow God hasn't caught up?

No im not impressionable. Believing that morals and absolute truth does not exist and completely denying the thought of the existence of a Creator, then id be impressionable

>Guys god is real, a bunch of rich old Italian pedophiles told me so
>They also started handing out a plate and told us to put money in it idk why

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Actually it means that you don't know what "impressionable" means, but good try.