Spend years lifting

t. Woman who needs to attack the groin, bite, claw, and eye gouge.

>knees you in the groin
h-hey that's c-cowardly (falls over in pain)
>gouges your fucking eyes
h-ha ha you're a bitch haha
>bites your fingers almost clean off as you try to stop me from gouging your eyes
h-hey guys get a load of this girly guy haha

Make fun of me all you want, kid. I'll be the victor celebrating at the bar whilst you're in the hospital crying to mommy.

Nothing personal.

Want to know how I know you’ve never been in a fight?

No grappling?

The fuck?

well you're an edgy 14 year old if ever there was

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>tfw lifting 3 years
>Went from 60kg > 94kg
>176kg 3x5 squat, 190kg DL, 105kg Bench, 60kg OHP.
>Started Judo 2x a week, and now starting boxing.
>Literally 3x a lifting once a week, and 2xjudo and 1 boxing.

Boxing to learn striking, Judo to learn throws and floor game. Excited as fuck.

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>Excited as fuck
Rolling around on the floor with men will do that sometimes

Nah, the fact that i'd be able to knock your teeth down your throat, or strangle you to death if we get on the ground is exciting.

Doing it all for self defense.

want to know how i know you've never tried to fight someone "fair and square" and they just end up hitting you with the first object they find?

yikes, you might to steer clear of the real world, user. computer fights are much safer!

REEEEEE, the post.

yeah, sport BJJ is gay. The Gracie family actively preaches about how while the sport is good, it is far from self-defense and risks erasing the practical aspects.

However, as long as there is MMA, we'll have practical BJJ in the field.

>these fights have so many gay rules though

That's to prevent permanent injury. In a real fight BJJ is even MORE useful since there's fewer restrictions.

Nice. I'm starting BJJ tomorrow at an MMA gym. How did you find a reputable Judo place?

youtube.com/watch?v=jvDkSSiUmXg

This, you're in a fight, not in a duel of honor, going for the balls or the eyes, or the back of the head can turn a fight around
Also this, fightings arts that involve grappling and throwing become deadly on the street when done correctly, just imagine someone being thrown at fucking concrete, shit hurts

>just imagine someone being thrown at fucking concrete, shit hurts

youtube.com/watch?v=_-kazIEar_I

Cool stuff, good-luck dude and have fun. Also, wear strong deodorant and absolutely no cotton. On my first Judo class, i had to wear a double weave GI, and wore a cotton shirt and briefs. I was drenched in sweat and both pieces of clothing were drenched in sweat.

Wear compression shirt and shorts!

> How did you find a reputable Judo place?

Lots of research, and constantly researching and finding out the sensais and what they achieve,d who they were trained by etc..

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you've never been in a fight and it's obvious

A lot of plebs have this mental image of themselves beating trained fighters by using things like kicking the balls or gouging eyes and that will magically bypass years of training and sparring against people who know how to counter movements, look for openings, keep and close distance, and end fights fast.

>tries to kick balls
>double legged takedown, tripped up, etc. and put into armbar, arm gets snapped.
>or guy closes distance fast and lands a few on your face and you get KO'd because you aren't balanced

>tries to gouge eyes
>miss miss miss miss because the head moves a lot and the eyes are small targets
>open yourself a lot because both your arms are being occupied, letting the guy maneuver you into a submission/KO

If eye gouging and ball kicking beat everything, there would be eye gouging jitsu or Muay Ball Kicks.

Why are humans so weak lads? One fall and the guy is done.

>having to fight
Stop being poor lmao. I'm 25, from a newrich family and I've never even once fought in my life.
And I'm certain that I will never have to, because I don't live near niggers or poor people.
Cheers poorfags.

not to mention going for fucking balls is so dumb. balls are a small target relative to the rest of the body, and that body is moving around, legs moving around, everything moving, including you and you want to ball kick the guy right in this specific spot?

>lifting to get good at fighting
is the same as
>sprinting to become better at pull ups

Might help in some capacity or another, but it's just two completely different things.
You are retarded.

One day you're going to be in a position where you have to fight to protect a loved one and you'll fail.

He fell right on his head with the whole force of his body-weight. That would knock any other living creature out, which is why so many herbivores have horns to prevent concussions when they slam their entire mass against something.

yeah, try to dodge this fucking trash can there, Neo. Let's see how all your wing-chun bullshit handles this fucking barstool

>tweedle dee I have a mount position, I'm such a trained fighter - I'll gracefully switch to a North-South position an ch-
Rock to side of head

>Ha! He was actually foolish enough to take me down, not realizing I'm a fucking BJJ GRACIE STYLE BLUEBELT HAHAHA, it's only a matter of time before I armba-
Lifted up, head slammed on concrete because they're not in a fucking mma gym

Grow up, dude. You're not Ryu.

Do both

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Certainly not. Only times I go outside is to get to my job office and when doing grocery shopping.
And like I said - don't live near niggers/poorfags.
Fighting is poor people problems, cheers lad.

Retard argument made by weaklings who don't know jack about fighting at all.
A trained fighter can use your "dirty tricks" better than you ever could. But none of them are even very effective compared to proper fighting techniques.
Biting and scratching is an act of desparation, not a proper strategy.

youtube.com/watch?v=531g49w0qPM

Why are a lot of judo throws not used in MMA? I've seen plenty of tackles, but dramatic over-the-shoulder throws are rare, if they even happen.

Wing chun is bull shit though. I'm not talking about Wing Chun, I'm talking about BJJ and wrestling.

>magically conjur up a rock
ok, merlin.

>lifts up a grown man dangling from you

in the gym, you can deadlift and squat heavy because of ideal leverages making the most use of your muscles, but when there is a moving dangling large weight not in an ideal leverage, you tend to fall over.

youtube.com/watch?v=7UhsjTkyAZk

why didn't this african fellow conjur a rock or slam this guy? hm...

lmao at the juvenile power fantasies.
Train for literally one day and then you can talk with the grown ups.

If I'm not mistaken, the sport of Judo after joining the olympics ate up the gyms in how they trained, meaning they would train the sport and not the MMA-relevant aspects.

The black belt is clearly taller though.

You really trying to explain this to the incels on this board? That - despite browsing a fitness board - still look like shit. Like..you really trying to be reasonable and sound to these pack of crabs in a bucket. user, I got one question for you: why is a good mannered - and not completely retarded individual such as yourself still here?

why didn't this guy just grab a rock of slam him?
youtube.com/watch?v=0azRlQ1uf9o#t=30s

Take note of this retard.
This is how every "tough guy" thinks.
They think they know how to win a fight, because they have never been proven how utterly helpless and shit they would be when faced with any sort of trained fighter.
I would bet money on the fact that you could not even punch me in the face if I let you.
Have you ever punched somebody in the face with full force?

t. absolute DYEL that has never come close to fighting and benches 1.5pl8 MAX

because I like memes.

Sad.

I'd love to see a master demonstrate on Hafthor. That would be the ultimate test of technique over strength and size.

This is probably where a striker would be superior to jiu jitsu guys. It's not like you make chin gains the bigger you are, so a quick strike to the head is the only way a significantly smaller fighter can win against Hafthor...

Bodybuilders don't lift in order to beat up people in the first place, although there certainly are a lot of bad-tempered lifters. Martial artists don't just focus on beating up people either, because martial arts is ultimately as much of a philosophy as it is a sport where the goal is to strengthen oneself, not cripple others.

youtube.com/watch?v=Aaehn1aY8Ig

Make note though that McGregor is utilizing legitimate escapes and isn't just getting let go. With that said, the bigger you are and more you weigh, that harder it is to fight you in general, but unless you're an absolute giant, technique will typically outdo your size at an untrained level

because we have big old brains

I've thought of that. It seems to me that the moment Hafthor gets anyone in a lock of any kind, they're going to get crushed, the same way you can't fight your way out of a trash-compactor. A striker doesn't have to play that kind of game when they can break your face and legs from a distance.

>not getting buff while also learning jiu jitsu
You can do both

So much room there for multiple acts of "boo hoo you broke the rules, bucko! No yellow belt for you!"
>biting his hands
>striking the groin or even grabbing
>stomp the head
Also, don't get cute. He could have easily slammed him at any time
K. Just know that during our first gay little jiu-jitsu match "roll at only 70% bro!" I'm going to fish-hook the shit out of you and bite your fingers, arms, and face. I'm going to be like a little chimpanzee and you're going to be my bitch. Then we can talk about power fantasies, tough guy.

this is obviously some sort of gay little fight club with rules set up. they chose a patch of grass for saftey and even set up a gay little ring of men around it. Also not they took off shirts and shoes... this is so pathetic. Men are so dumb. You are so dumb. You belong with these animals and their ghetto little gay fag fight club.

Also, don't get cute like the other faggot. There's always the possibility of just grabbing the other guys balls and squeezing, fish-hooking, eye poking, finger manipulation (bending them, snapping), biting

You're the only "tough guy" here, pal. look at you challenging me to fight you, hahaha. I'm having a fairly civil debate with the other guys, and yet little old faggot you comes along "I bet you couldn't even hit me" hahahahhahaah what a complete and utter faggot.

I would honestly love to see the look on your face when I admit that I can't hit you in the face. As you monkey chimp dance around me "haha, pussy! faggot! tough guy! can't punch me!! hhahaha I win, you lose" I just stand there, pretending to be defeated. Then I go into my car and get a bat and beat the fuck out of you and take your green belt as a trophy, fag. Ironically, your sensei would probably thank me

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Slams are a legitimate threat to anyone over relying on sports BJJ. They don't invalidate the whole martial art, and can be prevented, but tournaments DQ'ing people for them has turned a lot of sports BJJ into silly garbage.

Im retarded

If you're going to take it this far, then why don't you fuck off to Jow Forums? If you just want to kill someone and get your willy wet, a Beretta will do it better than BJJ. Martial arts is a test of fitness. It's a SPORT.

Slams are done in the sport because most federations don't let you slam the person, so idiots climb other people.

In a real fight, there are ways to let yourself down if a guy manages to stand up with you and that has to be trained. It is one of the critiques of sport BJJ in that it teaches bad habits and bad approaches.

That is why you need MMA gyms.

Id put my arm around your kneck like a cobra and u would do nothing but claw at my for arm and slowly ebb away

based retard

not based and not redpilled

>Why are humans so weak lads? One fall and the guy is done.

Watch the slam in slow-mo. He is dropped, and then his head slams into the concrete. This is how a lot of people die or are seriously injured in fights. They get hit, fall over, and slam their heads on the ground. This is why fighting in such environments is super dangerous.

top bait.
the trick is to channel your inner 14 year old.

lmao

You're an idiot, that rule applies to BOTH meaning BOTH lose the advantage of being able to do those things.
No rules and the Jui Jitsu guy can break limbs and twist your balls up? The bodybuilder should be GRATEFUL there were rules and a ref.

Surely this insult will land one day!

Agreeing with you 100%. IMO picking a dude up 6ft off the ground should count for a win. It's supposed to be a martial art, emphasis on martial.

i agree an untrained person will lose, but that shit bout lifting a grown man being difficult is just silly, at least for the reasons you provided

*unsheaths barstool
"I'm afraid you've forced me to go all out this time"
*teleports behind you
"you weren't expecting this were you?
*fishhooks your groin
"this is the end for you"
*smashes your face with a rock
"heh nothing personelle.................................. kid"

If you were not baiting, then you should seek treatment honestly.
Cause that would mean you are either dumb as a brick or legitimately mentally ill.

I did MMA for a few years before I started lifting. Just lost interest in it and wasn't skilled enough to be anything more than a weekend warrior. One of the guys at our gym was a power lifter before he started and I can tell you with certainty that grappling with him was horrible because he was insanely strong.

you need to know how to do it

most people don't know what a double legged takedown is or how to do it because they've never drilled it. Most people will run at you and hug you which equates to deadlifting weight 2 feet in front of you, meaning you've lost 100% of your leverage use in doing any lifting.

top kek

This. Martial artists can play FAR dirtier than the average thug because they actually know how the body works. If they wanted, they could turn a choke into a snap. And it's not like 'conventional' techniques are any less deadly either. Try asking a pro heavyweight boxer to slug you in the jaw and see how many weeks of hospital care you get away with.

youtube.com/watch?v=d-Gea137VRU

Anyone who is a serious BJJ player lifts weights too. The more you compete the more important S&C becomes.

Diet also. It turns into a lifestyle.

It's hilarious to see just how many of you are so easily defeated by a simple proposal

You, a TRAINED fighter who fights by the rules
VS
A TRAINED fighter who doesn't give a shit about going to prison

Don't worry. If you lose the argument, all you have to do is post a reply about me being 14 or calling me a retard or something. It's about as effective as you in a street fight! Hahahah, fags. Stay weak, stay ignorant. See if I care.

Go get in a fight sometime, you might learn something.

What state are you in? Want to fight me for money? No rules?

He's both of those things, AND a coward to boot. He thinks martial arts makes you less dangerous, when it just gives you even more options to efficiently end a fight without resorting to killing. And plenty of martial artists will do just that if you give them enough of a reason. Once more, he should fuck off to Jow Forums if he's so concerned with 'practical' self defence.

After doing my dabbing into the philosophy of fighting, self defense and martial arts. This is pretty much what it boils down to.
Whoever can attack harder/faster or can take the most hits will win. This principle goes above technique. Training makes it so your chances of being the one who can hit harder, faster, or to be able to take an attack more than the other increases significantly over the average person. But trained or untrained it will ultimately boil down to that.
Guy A is trained, if Guy B is still faster/hits harder/sustains more damage, or any combination, he will win, regardless of Guy A's developed and advanced technique.
Considering it's far more likely the guy that is trained will be the one with the higher stat, it's pretty likely the guy who is trained will win the majority of the time.

Go ahead and post your address first faggot. And no, I'm not fighting you. I'm showing up to your house with my fucking Benelli M4

TALK TOUGH AND BACK IT UP, FAGGOT

Is there a fag in this thread that could even possibly EVEN TOUCH My GF at the bar? Let alone defeat him. And I'm not talking about Edo Tensei barstool. I'm not talking about fish hook Tensei barstool either. Hell, I'm not even talking about fish hook body slame Juubi Tensei bar stool with the rock face smash and Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and dirty groin kick(with the rikodou abilities and being capable of both Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi genjutsu), equipped with his barstool, a perfect barstool, control of the barstool and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju's DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and fish hook body slam.

It's true that BJJ is a joke "irl". You don't want to roll around with some crackhead.

>You, a TRAINED fighter who fights by the rules
>VS
>A TRAINED fighter who doesn't give a shit about going to prison

in all seriousness, a persons intention in a fight makes no difference. a child can try to murder you but it don't mean it can

Fight me on a cruise ship, a government building, a college, school, or your workplace, then. All places you can't legally carry a firearm.

youtube.com/watch?v=d_KvTfZyiQA

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based BJJ practitioner who knows what hes talking about.

I saw an untrained 250 lb guy literally cripple a D1 wrestler who weighed like 100 lbs less than him.

It was at a 4th of July party in someone's back yard. The big guy was drunk and talking shit. The wrestler had just graduated and didn't give any fucks. They got into it and when the wrestler went for the double leg he slipped on the grass, the big guy fell on him, and the wrestlers knee folded backwards under the weight. Pretty gruesome injury.

I guess it's more 'luck' than any skill on the big guys part. Still, sometimes luck is enough.

cruise ship
>I throw you overboard
>a government building
I throw you off the ledge
>a college
I tell everyone you're a nazi and let them have you
>school
Very easy to get guns in here...
>your workplace
You think I have a fucking job making posts like this?

You CANNOT defeat me, now what's your address mother fucker?

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If people here wanted to play by your rules, they'd just get a machete or a gun and murder you. But they won't, because they know that winning is more than just savage violence. Persist in your delusion, and all that awaits is self-destruction.

666 kickyourass lane right passed pussymutherfucker street

You came to play a child's slap fight game.

I'm prepared to go to fucking WAR.

You're the one who is delusional. I'm simply willing to do what is necessary to win, even if it means introducing you to horror.

based bait biter voice of enlightened reason

Kek, just as I predicted. Just fuck off back to Jow Forums if you think you're too good for fisticuffs. There're plenty of people there who'll shoot back.

bonafied mad lad over here, I'd watch the fuck out

Make love not war.

I'm trolling. I don't even have a gun, and I've never been in a fight.

Good night, boys.

>shanks
>needles
>AIDS
>crackhead friends
>biting

And no, this isn't about biting to "win the fight", this is about not wanting to get bitten by some jackass.

I yield