When did your hairline start receding? I'm 27 and noticed that my entire hairline has receded over half an inch in just under 8 months. Is it normal for hair loss to happen this rapidly? Prior to this my hairline had never changed.
Also at my last doctors visit, I was told that I'm severely lacking in vitamin d, but didn't think much of it. Could that be factoring into the hair loss? I don't really have a good head shape to go bald so I'm a little worried.
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I just got a very short buzz cut because my hair was thinning
THANK FUCKING GOD I have spent the last few years getting /fit.
My jaw is actually far wider and sharper looking than it used to be, in addition to having put on about 50 lbs of muscle (I am on steroids, obviously, and gained 70 lbs total).
Anyways, the super short haircut looks great, my GF likes it, and I would recommend it to anyone else with thinning hair
but yeah if your head shape sucks or if you're skinny fat you will look absolutely terrible guaranteed
24, starting noticing recession probably around 2 years ago but not much has really changed. In fact I started doing some massage and occasional dermarolling and hair is growing back in on my corners. My crown looks fine.
>Is it normal for hair loss to happen this rapidly?
I have a friend who is 28 and lost all of his hair over the course of one year. He showed me a pic of himself at 26 with a full head of thick hair. A year later it was gone. He shaves his head completely bald now. Not trying to stress you out but yes it can happen very fast.
How does the peppermint oil work?
I have some that I've been using but do you dilute it with a carrier oil or do you just dump it on? Will too much act as a vasoconstrictor instead of a dilator?
it doesn't. take a 5-a reductase inhibitor drug or give up
>5-a reductase inhibitor
No I'd like to maintain my erection.
This is what I realized....you can fight balding, but it is like fighting nature. If it's going to happen, it's going to happen. Trying to stop with 5AR inhibitors jus creates even worse side effects.
See how you look iwth a very short buzz cut. If it's good, then you're set. If not, look into getting a hair transplant.
Could be a systemic issue. Vitamin d levels are influenced by prolactin. High prolactin could cause hair loss.
Overall, I’d recommend vitamin d3 but it’s just a bandaid on a more difficult issue.
Focus on increasing dopamine to inhibit prolactin. Coffee, cocoa powder, l-tyrosine are all good methods of improving dopamine production. Tyrosine can be turned into stress hormones so cosupplementation of beta alanine can counter act that.
Topical things can help too but if the hairloss is a systemic issue, topicals have their limits.
Pretty much every single male will bald at a certain point. If you can delay it by 10-20 years, I would consider that a win.
Started balding at a pretty young at 18, it sucked. I ultimately ended up just keeping a real short 1mm buzz starting around 20.
Staying fit and having a beard makes it less shitty
>it is like fighting nature
I realised this too. All the drugs and home remedies in the world can't win that uphill battle. Shaving it, a hair transplant, or a hair system are the only ways to make it look good - and they each come with their own problems.
Cucked by creatine induced DHT once again OP
> Creatine increases DHT levels
> DHT causes MPB
> Baldness makes men want to get fit
> More likely to use creatine
> More profits
They profit from making you bald
On 3 percent of men. How about you try it first. Google forhims or keeps. They have some sort of one month deal. Millions of men take finasteride and they still get bonners.
>Looks better than a transplant or fin/minox regrowth
>No surgery
>No drugs
>Recurring costs, but no huge upfront cost
>Only need to take it off once every few weeks
>Only need around 3 replacement systems per year
Why haven't you taken the wigpill?
based
>just started fin month 2
>Benis still full systems go at 100%
>smash gf ~3 times per week
Why does this myth still get perpetuated online? It's literally like a 2-4% chance of getting sides. I shouldn't feel amazed my dick works even though I'm in a 95% bracket
Finasteride is a tranny drug it works but yeah.
>side effects don't exist because I didn't get them
Hairlet and brainlet
>25 (soon 26)
>young looking face
>receding hair
I look like a serial killer or incel.
at 18
How does having a plastic cap on your scalp not drive you insane, though? I would itch like crazy, and I can only imagine it would start to get gross. Like, do these people not sweat?
Apparently studies on rats show peppermint oil works quite well. I don't have it saved, but iirc it was something like 3-5% peppermint oil in a jojoba oil carrier. Although I don't think this specifically was part of the study, supposedly dermarolling will help significantly before applying the oil. I believe if you apply just plain peppermint oil directly to your skin, you could cause potentially permanent damage to yourself, which is why they use carriers for essential oils.
tfw was using peppermint oil without carrier oil on my scalp like 3 times a day
I believe the higher quality ones have a fine mesh base so it's got plenty of little holes for air and sweat to get through. More durable ones have a thicker plastic base and I imagine they'd be less comfortable.
I'm 27, receding hair + thinning on top also baby face
im 18 with a fairly high slightly receding hairline. My father has always had a high hairline and hes 60, never had any balding issues. I dont worry about it too much. my bangs cover it
Less than 3%. Tests were done that found men on a placebo had more chance of developing ED as it tends to be psychological - if you're told you're taking something that will give you a limp dick you'll probably get one due to the stress of it.
That and correlation != causation, if you're showing signs of aging through your hair it's only natural you'll end up showing it elsewhere. Not getting hard as much as you used to doesn't necessarily have anything to do with finasteride.
i've actually didn't notice much when i was taking 1/4g of proscar but i was also not lifting and was pretty young
later on it gets really detrimental especially when it comes to getting strength also i just get moody all the time for no reason
Get a hair system.
Some guys you can really tell because they dye it and they dye their hair - and as their natural hair fades the piece stays the same color so it looks unnatural.
You really cannot tell until you are like an inch away and touching it and etc. The stigma is that people think all hairpieces look like Trump's hair, when they look amazing and give many guys confidence.
It's no different than extensions and weaves for women. If you get up close and feel their hair and look - you can see the beads attaching the extensions to the hair. Weaves also come off every day. These men's hairpieces don't - you can wash, dry, style, swim and etc just like you do with normal hair. You don't peel it off and throw it in the laundry or something lol.
I think its kinda ridiculous guys get all this grief for getting hairpieces but women, wear weaves, extensions, and spend $$$ on their hair. It's a double standard desu and unfair to guys who'd rather not be bald.
i wish i was balding, would save me from having to shave it so often.
This. It's really no different to using any other kind of cosmetic or accessory, it just has a disproportionate social stigma attached to it.
I noticed hair loss shortly after turning 22. You can save up for a transplant if you're really worried about it. I'm probably going to get a buzzcut when it gets bad, but I know that the transplant option is always there
I’m 19. Hairline hasn’t moved in a year or two, makes me wonder if I got lucky and just “matured.”
Started getting thin hair and a receeding hairline at 17, I think due to shit diet growing up.
> 19 year old
> "matured"
fuken kek, thats just how hairloss works, its cycles until you reach picrelated stage
Nah, plenty of guys are NW2/NW3 for life.
Doesn't it look like shit buzzed if it's thinning on the top?
You could also run cabergoline cycles
> (I am on steroids, obviously, and gained 70 lbs total).
What are you running?
>log into facebook for the first time in 10 years
>every single friend of mine from high school has a receding hairline now
baldness needs to be cured
My father is 49 and I noticed that he's receding. He doesn't care, my mother always gives him a buzzcut. Is it possible that I recede before his age? I'm 17 and I don't care how I'll look when I'll be a disgusting boomer. I just don't want to be balding when I'm young.
You should get your mother's father's hairline. At least that is how its supposed to work but its not 100%. My grandad had thick jet black hair but I was a blonde kid and now starting to lose it.
Also
>underage b&
you idiot
>Coffee, cocoa powder, l-tyrosine are all good methods of improving dopamine production.
most dopamine is made in the gut (this is why eating rotten uncooked meat gets you high). you are better off flooding your gut with fermented foods for the probiotics than taking supplements or relying on coffee.
Nah, that’s not how it works at all. You have an equal chance of getting your maternal grandfather’s hair loss genes as you do getting your maternal grandmother’s hair loss genes (which you can’t appraise simply by looking at her hair). Whether your dad is bald also plays a role, not all the genes implicated are on the X chromosome.
I know right? I went on a sweep through my FB friends to see what was up. It's a fucking war zone out there.
Mine started receding as a consequence of seborrheic dermatitis. Apparently, it will grow back.
>Also at my last doctors visit, I was told that I'm severely lacking in vitamin d, but didn't think much of it. Could that be factoring into the hair loss?
Without a doubt.
i am on fin for 5 months, no sides. it works btw.
Started around 25-26. Now im 29 and it started to go more noticeably. I can grow an awesome beard that goes up to my cheekbones though so I guess thats a plus.
>Pretty much every single male will bald at a certain point.
Cope.
I stopped caring after my 19 year old 10/10 cousin married a balding 24 year old chad, all you need is a good face and don’t be a manlet.
Legitimately like 70-80% of all men eventually experience MPB though.
I'm still not sure if I'm balding or not. I had a stressful event in my life and I lost like 20% of my hair density on top of my head in a matter of few days and then the hairloss kinda stopped but that lost hair hasn't grown back yet. It's been like 4 years now
Just have a good face and dont be a manlet
It's not a sign of aging.
cope
Larp.
if you can hold on for a few years there will be commercially-available topical anti-androgens with little to no systemic effects and therefore no dick horrors... trinov is already out in Italy, preliminary results seem promising, Breezula will be out in a year or two.. if you're rich Dr. Tsuji's stem cell procedure will be available for a $10-20k by 2020-2021.
it's always darkest before the dawn. don't lose hope. if you're NW2 or below and not losing ground rapidly, you're probably in the clear. Do not let the fincels frighten you into completely getting rid of one of your hormones... jesus christ...
I don't know how retarded you have to be to think that 95% of men who take fin don't experience sides--sure, maybe 95% retain function of their penis, but that's not the only thing DHT does, 5ar receptors are incredibly important to cognitive functioning which is why brain fog, depression, and anxiety are widely reported. people learn to cope with fin, it's not a safe or effective treatment. it's a fucking prostate drug for old men that doctors prescribe like candy because Merck pushed it.
Is there any correlation between growing a beard and going bald? My beard started to grow around the same time i started to go bald.
Can you share more and elaborate about NW2 and the anti-androgens?
Looks like your hair is already past NW2.
The absolute state of caucasian genes.
>caucasian
it happens to all races doesn't it?
those guys usually don't "mature" at 19
Not really, it's around 60-100%, depending on race.
Yes but...
Sure. Right now the conventional wisdom is that there are basically three or four effective treatments against balding, all of which work by inhibiting your 5ar receptors and thus stunting DHT production.
Finasteride- the most popular, a pill which eliminates around 70-90% of DHT at the recommended dose
Dutasteride- the second most popular, Finasteride's stronger cousin, basically gets rid of all of your DHT
RU58841- a research chemical developed about a decade ago that was aborted in Phase II. It's topical, so you suspend it in a solution and rub it in your scalp, the idea is that it will reduce DHT levels in the scalp, thus preventing balding, without the full range of systemic effects from fin/dut. the truth is not so simple, and as scalp porosity increases over time, systemic absorption increases, and you will get side effects. the safety profile of RU is relatively unkown, and you always run the risk of getting some chinese shit and dying, but other than that, it's generally safer than fin or dut. the problem is that it still goes systemic, and most everyone who uses it regularly reports a drop in libido and erectile health over time.
CB-03-01- another research chemical, currently in Phase IIb trials in Germany under the name of Breezula, this is the best option. It's a topical, so again you have to suspend it in a solution and use it daily, but there is almost zero systemic absorption, and thus very few reported sides. it's been proven to be about twice as effective as finasteride in maintaining and regrowing hair, and starts to work in a shorter window for most people. Unfortunately unless you have access to private forums, where you can buy lab-tested CB powder, you run the risk of getting something else that's dangerous. Thekaneshop is the only USA supplier, you have to pay btc and their product seems to be consistent, however it is expensive--$720 for 10g. However, if used correctly, 10g should last you a while, maybe up to a year.
Trinov/Brotzu lotion- developed in Italy by a doctor, Trinov binds to your 5ar receptors without actually inhibiting them, but still manages to block their action on the scalp. I don't understand the research completely, but the long and short is that it is very safe. The jury is currently out on how effective it is, the studies have been sparse and the results on forums like hairlosstalk seem promising, but it's too early to tell, as it was just released in December of '18. You can get it now in America, but it's ludicrously expensive. You have to buy off an Italian pharmacy and pay around $110/bottle, which will only last you around a month.
By NW2 I mean a mature hairline, obviously receded but still a full head of hair and easy to look handsome with, still able to run coverup game or style it well. Think Chris Pratt or Jon Hamm. If you have at least this much hair and you're not shedding massively, you should try CB or hold out until Breezula or Trinov reach American markets.
>It's been like 4 years now
If you are no longer stressed, it is MPB.
Bigger cope.
Nah, I just have a really fucking weird hairline and a big forehead. If anything I’m below NW2, which is a V-shape. NW3 is where you start getting into JUST territory, the McDonald’s M-shape. Luckily it’s really thick so I can wear bangs and you can’t even tell.
i envy white people that can hide their hair loss with bangs. as a black dude you are basically forced to go bald
it's okay brah if you save up $20k for Tsuji by 2020 you can just get wyepo stem cell follicles implanted in your scalp and have a luscious golden mane if you want
It's thinning a bit at the temples, I'd reccomend taking fin just to be sure. You definitely don't want to be shelling out hair transplant money later.
Does you scalp sweat significantly more now?
>fighting nature
>not giving momma nature a creampie
Being black and bald isn't even that much of a difference. Try being brown and bald. That shit is a death sentence.
Look at the center of your hairline, not the corners.
yeah, I've had that notch my entire life. it's a cowlick.
Hiding your baldness is shameful.
I see.
If this is what I think it is, it will fail because the galea aponeurotica is the problem, not the follicles.
>tfw middle east and white
>full Caucasian
>receding
Fuck my life
copelets are not even human
A few months back. I’m 25.
Just noticed it early November I think. Freaked me out but I stopped using shampoo, and kept pinching and moving around my entire scalp with my hands. It’s really really difficult at first since it’s usually a lot tighter but it seems to be working. I have regrown a lot to the point before where I ever noticed something was wrong
I know there’s a lot of jews and /r9kikes/ on this thread too so form your own opinions about what I said. take everything worth a grain of salt but remember that this literally costs you nothing except a little time
any advice on how to do one? are you following any guide? Just pinching and moving? For how long?
Peter attia podcast today is a hair doc.
You can get some back and save what's left if you start immediately.
I don’t have a specific routine I just try to do at least a few minutes every day. I don’t think this is something you can overdo very easily so the more time the better generally imho. I guess you wanna really focus on breaking up any calcification and tension so go hard. If your fingers aren’t hurting at least a little you’re probably not going hard enough
Read up on it a bit and see ppl using some oils, do you use any oils or smth?
No. I have peppermint soap which I use now though. But generally no. You might get better results if you use oils and stuff and maybe dermarolling too. that’s any other thing i haven’t tried
another*
That's a large percentage especially when considering we fit the small percentage of males who lose their hair at a young age in the first place.
use castor+coconut oil, it's legit
Looks great and all, but how are you going to explain it to your girlfriend, or what if it falls off, I would always have anxiety about that.
Since I was 16/17. Family told me I was being retarded but I'm at NW2-ish at this point and people can notice.
Also, I'm thinking balding is just because I fap too much but I wanna know how to get my lost hair back ;-;
>legit
lmao, just by the thumbnail I can tell it's all BS snake oil
fin and minox or be bald, your choice
What makes you think that?
Creatine doesn't produce DHT, dipshit.
Prove him wrong.