Self Harm Fitness

ignore faggots who say its just for attention, they're parroting some retarded meme their boomer dad handed down from years of wisdom gleaned from the coal mines

most self-harmers don't share their scars, and go to great lengths to cover them up.

>b-b-but i know girls

no you don't. also, obviously if you only interact with the ones who parade them around, you're going to think they all do that. the hidden ones are by definition not being shown to you.

it's a control thing. almost always these people have histories of sexual, physical, or emotional abuse and seek to regain control over themselves in some way. but because people are retarded and all act like their own behavior comes from wisdom or "like just because man," instead of recognizing that it emerges from experience (aka trauma), they don't take control of the behavior and those desires come out in the form of impulsive, seemingly unrelated behaviors that only make sense if you dig through all the shit they've got buried from even themselves.

that's the gestalt of it but "hurr durr attention" is a meme that lets you feel better than someone else so feel free to stick with that, im sure some retard will shuffle in to say it

>what is the point of handing out rewards if they take no effort to achieve?
To make you feeel good.
The real question is if you deserve to feel good if you didn't achieve shit but that's more profound.

its like having a faggot who was constantly borrowing your toy and breaking it so you decide to just throw it away or hide it somewhere where its an inconvenience for even you to reach, its not rational but it makes a twisted sort of sense like most neurotic behavior. obviously self-harm is operating on on a much deeper level, the reasons are usually only known unconsciously and need to be sussed out through weeks or months of therapy.

Maybe you are just weak.

I bet you thought this post had some kind of value. I don't harm myself, I used to work as a therapist.

Even if I did, you might as well just say "Maybe you are just blue." That's all the value you have to add to a conversation.

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Tl;dr: it's for attention

I cut myself a lot when i was a teenager
It was a stupid fucking thing to do and i thoroughly regret it
However i did cuts very high up on my arm so absolutely nobody could see because i didn't want the attention like everyone says - i just wanted to like, have a physical manifestation of all the emotion and head fuck coming out of me.
Depression is fucking awful, despite that fact that 99% of people meme it and don't really suffer that badly - the few that do it just steals away your life. I can honestly say that 10+ of possibly the best years of my life were stolen by that shitty disease

both cutting and tattoos are a reliable sign of mental instability and illness.

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holy fuck this is cringe. self-harm, tattoo, negative looking gains.

I dated a horse girl and she had borderline personality disorder
She cut my initials into her thigh years ago and I wonder what she tells guys lol
The letters were pretty big too

I had really bad depression too user. Used to hit myself instead of cutting. Real depression is HORRIBLE, it destroys your soul/life and is impossibly hard to get out of. People that talk shit about it, don't understand, at all. It's like trying to tell a person from a thousand years ago how an electric car works. (psych major BTW, got into this field to help people like us)

Self harming borderline gf is a good life experience to stay the fuck away from those people

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you put in more effort than I was willing to, I admire that

cringe and tryhard

i honestly hate cutters, after dating a few. it's nothing more than look at me look at me look at me, it's all so tiring. I will continue on as usual.

nah. cool story but i disagree based on XP.

I want to say thigh

wow, after reading your post I noticed I had already started applauding. I was so taken aback by this, I ran to the bathroom to see myself in the mirror... shocked to see my brain and head had expanded nearly twice the size.

i now know what it's like to be you, we are one

oh cool. and here you are talking about it, years later. jebus, what is with you people? just get over yourselves already

>attention whore then
>attention whore now

Don't you wish it was as easy as telling someone to get over themselves to fix depression? lol It's like poring oil into a flame.

Dating someone who cut themselves is a really bad idea don't you think? They're not ready for a relationship. What were you expecting from that person, like of course she's going to be high maintenance.

What did you have to do to get to where you are now?

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Hey user, how many friends do you have? Asking for a friend

Similar case. I'd cut around the legs since I was already wearing long pants 24/7. I can't say I've stopped cutting, I had a relapse about 2 months ago.
At least I'm somewhat getting my life together. On SSRIs, finally got a job for the first time, and studying psychology in uni. Made going to the gym my new hobby.
It's a rough world but we are all going to make it bros.

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Does anyone else Self-flagellate before a gym session? I figure it would get my back ripped.

>Don't you wish it was as easy as telling someone to get over themselves to fix depression?

After reading "Discipline = Freedom" by Jocko, I really don't have any care or sympathy for that kind of thing. I ironically and non-edge believe that the only way to stop depression is to stop doing things that lead to depression. Just as simple as the only way to stop being fat is to stop doing things that lead to being fat. It's that simple.

Also overblown is the idea of willpower. I simply no longer believe in it. Desire is more important. Simply put, the people who continue to be overweight, depressed, cutters, etc. simply desire to be that way more than they desire not. If they wanted it, they would make it happen. Yes, it's that simple.

Usually these people are using it as a cope for something else. It's more important to drill into someone's head that asking for help isn't a bad thing. Humans are social creatures, you should encourage and support your bros to do better habits over "just stop being depressed lol." All you are listing is the reason why, not how to fix it. Anyone who's even somewhat self aware can come up with what you've listed. You act like you don't care but if you didn't, would you be preaching how how humans behave?

>I really don't have any care or sympathy for that kind of thing
You are entitled to feel how ever you want, doesn't make you a bad person for that obviously. I somewhat think that way as well, but I guess I could say that I am a little more emphatic since I sort of experienced depression myself.

>Only way to stop depression is to stop doing things that lead to depression. Just as simple as the only way to stop being fat is to stop doing things that lead to being fat. It's that simple.
That is common sense. I am sure that they all obviously know where their issue came from and solution to fix their issue. But they simply can't, why? Depression sucks the life out of them. They lose all motivation to the point that most of them can't even get out of bed. Common sense is easier said it then done. That's why every year more and more morbidly obese people die on their bed and depressed people do a flip on the bridge. But sadly, they will all have to face the common sense to save themselves, if they're around people who support them it would make it a little bit easier though.

ahahaha thank you

with this post you have ushered in a new era of psychotherapy

"Just don't be depressed/overweight/self-harm, it's that simple."
-HighschoolAnon #34213

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it's like when you type, the weakness in your mind manifests itself right through your fingers and manifests into the world via your posts

A good way to explain mental health problems like emotional dysregulation to people who are not especially emotionally sensitive or don't suffer from dysregulation is to ask them how they feel when they get a bad burn.

The pain of a burn severe enough to require treatment is about on par with extreme emotional dysregulation in people who exhibit self-harm/suicide.

Everyone reacts the same when they are emotionally out-of-control, it's just for some people it is a lot easier to reach this point, and for some people they just don't experience emotions as strongly and it is very hard for them to reach that point.

They have done extensive MRI and brain studies on people with emotional dysregulation vs normal. Generally people with this kind of problem have an overrdeveloped amygdala and an underdeveloped prefrontal cortex. This gives them heightened emotions and a reduced ability to control them. It takes a lot more work and development for these people to learn to get their emotions under control. And this doesnt talk about the environment they are in which is almost always invalidating (eg "just dont feel sad" "stop being so sensitive") and dont allow them to learn.

Anyways, you don't really understand it unless you have it. Saying things like "just don't be depressed" is about as sensible as saying "just don't feel pain in your burned hand"

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write it in your diary or carve it into your skin, i don't care. having something in common with an angsty emotional teenage girl is pretty pathetic if you ask me. read meditations by marcus aurelius

This entire topic and every post in it...

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>i dont care
why even bother replying then? is it to fuel your own narcissism instead refusing to have an intellectual debate? all you want is for others to validate your opinion on a nigerian basket weaving forum without offering any logical evidence, only fallacies that appeal to the emotion and vague "just read the book fggt lol" statements instead.

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well maybe you will care one day, you never know

it might be worth considering that mental health is a little more complicated than your experience with it so far

no one has the absolute truth :)

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Self harm is based
Tattoos are cringe AF

I literally do it just because I like the pain and I enjoy seeing myself bleed. Not even being edgy, I didn't know why I did it at first but now I cut myself just because I simply enjoy it.

It should. It isn't, but it definitely should.

both of you are consistently missing the (clearly made) point.

what I don't care about is the sorry soap opera tale about blah blah this and that. The tale of sorrow is unimportant when results are desired. If someone with depression and/or someone who is cutting wants to stop, they will find a way to do so. If they do not want to stop, they will continue living their life in the same manner.

There is no "intellectual debate" to be had. The books I've indicated lay forth a philosophy that has been popular for thousands of years: Pulling yourself up by your own bootstraps

I used to burn my hands with a lighter because a blister is pretty easy to 1) not notice and 2) come up with an excuse for if anyone does. It's fucking stupid to do I agree, but it happened. It's also unfortunate that people decide to romanticize it so hard and ruin it for everyone else

nice b8

While a big part of it can often be attention, it is this way for some people.
As a kid I just couldn't handle attention from this one QT who wouldn't leave me alone and that topped off the cake of self hatred, anxiety from having to be around and interact with so many other people, and just that general feeling of everything being terrible and no matter what I did nothing was "fun" or gave me any sense of satisfaction.
So I went into a dissociative break from being overwhelmed and cut up my arms, after that though I just cut my thighs, it just became some dumb powerful coping mechanism and I enjoyed every aspect of it for a while until I decided to stop being a faggot and started smoking cigarettes instead.

But yeah it's usually pretty gay to be 18+ and self harm.
I get weird looks and snickers sometimes, but it's gotten me layed a few times and probably will again because there are plenty of 20-something year old personality disordered women who are still mentally 16.

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I used to punch walls when I got angry so thats kinda like self harm right?

so you reading a book somehow gives you the secret knowledge that mental health science hasnt managed to discover yet

I can't be the only one who cut because it genuinely felt good
I could never find out why, but something about it got me fucking pumped up
This
>2019
>Not doing Starting Flagellant
>Not becoming the embodiment of St. Peter Damien's will
>Not lashing the everloving piss out of yourself before a heavy set

its not about opera tales or sorrow, it's about understanding mental illness

there's no real discussion here. you're coming from a place of ego/superiority, thinking that you understand mental illness simply because you don't have it.

it's a very tired and ignorant viewpoint. saying simplistic things like "just stop" or "they'll find a way" or "pull yourself up by your own bootstraps" is childish.

The sad thing is the same people that say this are often so emotionally stunted that they dont even realise they themselves are suffering. They learned to fear emotions and always suppress them, and are often very self-critical and invalidating.

anyways, obviously if it was as easy as "just stop feeling bad" or "man up" no one would have any issues, and it really shows that you are arguing this way because you feel superior, like you don't have mental illness because you are doing something special, or that if you did, you would "will" yourself out of it

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its very common, read up on treating borderline with DBT, it's talked about quite extensively

not that's just autism

everything worthwhile is hard to achieve, this does not mean that everything hard is worthwhile

>I like the pain and I enjoy seeing myself bleed
>Not even being edgy
NANI?

>tfw no emotionally dependent self harm gf
how much longer do I need to lift to get one?

>emotionally stunted
you mean half of Jow Forums

Her wilks better be like 350 or I don't wanna hear shit about "strong"

yes. read them get better. stop being weak.

i do feel superior to you. it's not hard, to be honest. you're the one looking to get coddled after you cut yourself and pointing fingers at the first person to tell you to get over it.

you also unirionically said 'pulling yourself up by your own boonstraps' is a childish phrase. wow. imagine my shock that you want everyone to do everything for you, hoping there's so magic happy pill you can take, and everyone should totally just like "get" you and say you're right and you should definitely get all the attention you deserve. sad really. like I said, not too hard to feel superior.