>Track your calories and macros with MyFitnessPal or Cronometer. Works best on smartphones myfitnesspal.com (better for packaged food) cronometer.com (better for generic food/tracking micro-nutrients)
DO >count calories, all of them. >calculate your TDEE at sedentary. >buy scales, be accurate in your measurements. autistically accurate. >learn how to cook and start cooking your own healthy meals. lean protein and green vegetables. >develop sustainable healthy lifestyle habits >eat a lot of protein (1g per lb of goal body weight) >walk, swim, or bike, just get moving. >start lifting weights! fatties have the advantage that they can build muscle while cutting, especially as complete beginners! >post your height/weight/screenshot of MFP/Cronometer food log when asking for advice
DON'T >eat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calorie count >eat processed foods, or at least try to avoid if possible >drink your calories. alcohol, soda, hot chocolate, fancy starbucks shit. forget it. >be a retard
following up on the end of last thread about fast food
i got some pure sugar ice cream and cheezits at the grocery store tonight, and man its fucking disgusting
user was right, i might have scared myself straight in terms of nutritional requirements for food from now on, processed stuff is a MEME
Isaac Hill
Try low carb first then keto. It's easier that way for your body to adjust
Charles Peterson
Mcdonalds user from last thread here
Right? I think bbn I read something where big corporations were making their food more addictive so that it would be easier to get people hooked on their products.
It's probably bullshit but I 100% believe it.
Camden Wright
>3 weeks into my cut for summer >Already down 8 lbs but I look softer
How do you lose 25 lbs a month? Currently in the second day of a five day fast, but when I did the math I'd only lose about 4/week. I want to at least not be overweight before my birthday in July.
By losing both muscle mass and fat. Depending on your goal body type, not advisable. Maintain protein intake and exercise for muscle retention/development.
I'm on this as well and doing 20lbs a month ish.
Evan Reed
of course companies would do that, i always assumed that. If you sold Cheezits or Cheetos, why would you NOT do what you could to make people want more?
I feel pathetic and weak and i damn near have a headache after having some ice cream and chips, plus im so close personally to my weight goal i have to just push through and accomplish what I wnat to accomplish
i cant even imagine what mcdonalds 'beef' would be like going into my body, you should go slap yourself
Chase Brown
I'm just saddened by how much I gained the past few years, user :( I was 160 back in 2016, then I was 225 last year, and in less than a year I gained an additional 40. I want to blame my meds (I'm on seroquel and abilify) but there really isn't anyone to blame but my own fat ass
shouldnt ever knock out calories unless you HAVE to bulk, if your not hungry then dont eat anything except to get enough protein in
Jaxson Morales
I broke my cycle. I got through to myself after years, and I know you can too. It isn't gonna be your last soda or piece of candy or snickers or whatever if you tell yourself it'll be your last. Your last already happened, the one that you last ate. Now you don't pick up that soda or whatever. You just continue life. Constantly think about what you wanna become. Don't. Pick. Up. That. Food.
Don't. Pick. Up. That. Soda.
James Cox
this is disgusting, make your own shit for your time in your life. otherwise youw ill guaranteed fail
Samuel Cook
I ate two cheap Fiber One bars and went over my calorie limit by like 300 calories.
You made the first step by recognizing the issue. Keep fighting user.
I went from 307lbs to 270 in 2 months without compromising my lifting. I got 1/2 done in 1/2/3/4 so gunning for that aesthetic but it's a long road ahead.
John Rogers
>no, you see, I'm actually this retarded on a daily basis
Woah you sure showed me user
Ethan Hill
>How do you lose 25 lbs a month? Eat nothing. Exercise five hours a day. Die.
Sebastian Harris
>How do you lose 25 lbs a month? Can only be done if you're 400lbs+
Zachary Allen
Well I "relapsed" after a month of no junk food. Ate well for a day and then had another setback. I'm starting to realise how similar this stuff is to drug addiction to some of us. I can't just have a little or else I lose all control. It's all about habits. I was dumb to think I could have just "one cheat day" - The worst thing to do though is give up, so I'll start again right now and take things day by day.
If they had a rehab for people like me, I'd be there. Seriously..maybe I should join the military so I can only eat what they provide..
Schedule a refeed day where you eat a fast food meal/w.e. that's at TDEE maintenance?
Levi Morgan
can't you just not go to the fast food places at all?
Kayden Roberts
I’ve been binging so hard lately I lost track of myself haven’t gone to the gym holy shit I made an appointment with a dietician for tomorrow and I’ll go to the gym too, fuck I hate being fat
I was 325 and now im 299, It took me exactly a moth and a week, not just a month I know but 400 pounds is an exaggeration.
I did it on keto.
Leo Hill
Can't you just not do heroin today?
Jaxson Martin
>Apologize for calling me a troll! No, you're still one. You can only demand an apoligise for saying you had reposted, and I'm not giving you that either. Nothing personnel kid.
Anthony King
Yes this happens to me too
Josiah Harris
What got me away from fast food was just saving every cent I have for an overseas trip.
Joshua Scott
I've sort of hashed out a rough idea here where you take control of what you have available to eat and spend on food. I'm using Australian prices, but it's a good estimation of a week (or more) worth of food.
Would be cool if people shared daily cronometer meal plans. Bonus if you can make variations that sync up to make proper meals.
I think you should aim for: -Satisfaction of macro/micronutrient intakes. -Variety and balance (ie. not just one type of meat/fruit/vege and not having excessive amounts of anything).
Let's be honest, everyone here knows how to drop the fat, they just lack the willpower or structure in order to do it.
Yeah and it is that simple, honestly. It takes will power and I didn't have that today. But it's like when you're sick and you know if you take medicine you will feel better, but you can't take it. For probably 99% of fat people, eating poorly is tied to their emotions. I had a bad day at work, knew what would make me feel better and I broke down.
Thats why I made the drug addiction comparison. As I said, I was eating fine for a month, know junk food. Had one cheat day and now I've had two in 3 days. It's like saying being clean for a month and saying "I'll judt do a line of coke today" and then suddenly you're on a bender. Once you remember how easily food can make you happy, it's tough to ignore.
Dylan Baker
>they just lack the willpower or structure in order to do it Been lots of massive gains, bro. Just so happens there's more Confess posts for your sins than there are Profess posts for your gains.
Also I nick most of my food from work.
John Flores
I just eat 3.5kg of meat or chicken a week with lettuce/tomato salad (with balsamic vinegar) for about 35 usd, your budget seems pretty high.
Levi Clark
I'm going pescatarian for lent so my gains can be blessed by the lord.
Jackson Lewis
I bet your micros are shit though.
Jose Scott
Tbh I simplified it a bit because right now my fruit garden is brimming and been just eating plums from my trees so thats my fruit source, normally add a bit more for fruit. And back when I used to track micros, they looked pretty good, so whatever. Beef and chicken alone filled like 95% of all the micros.
Hudson Rodriguez
>he fell for the "you must eat varied" meme
Add 600grams of chicken on their own and take a look at the micros on that.
Henry Ross
Growing your own stuff is a good idea. Depends what you want mate, if your simple diet works for you then that's great. However, my autism necessitates accounting for micros if I'm going to do something properly.
Adrian Sullivan
I bought the 300lb Olympic weight set at Dick's. What should I be doing beside OHP and deadlifts? I don't want to do squats because big asses are for homos.
Oliver Harris
Nothing to confess, CICO and exercise is going well. I keep going below 1200 cal so MFP isn't happy but I'm not happy until it's not happy. I have to go to the grocery store on Thursday so I was thinking I would work in a cheat day. I figured out what I'm going to eat and when I calculated the calories along with my deficit for this week I'll still be at a 3500 cal deficit so it won't mess me up.
Jason Murphy
How much does chicken cost per kilo where you are?
Spring Break starts this weekend and I know Im gonna be binging for a few days, sorry father
Jonathan Brooks
Yeah look, I don't really have dem prices to work with here, that being said those online prices are marked up to what's in store. Can probably go down to $8/KG for beef here, and perhaps maybe the same for chicken if I'm lucky.
Andrew Baker
I don't remember the details but cheetos specifically put some chemical in it that was addictive. I'm not sure if they still do because I heard about this years ago but it's definitely a thing.
Mason Ward
Actually decided to check my current cut and its not that bad micro-wise, for the ammount of calories. If i was at 2500kcal I'd get it all filled up easily.
This. When you're just depressed constantly, about politics and your situation and lack of friends or relationships, how you've wasted your youth and have no real connections to show for it, and all you really feel is a massive sense of despair about everything... why wouldn't you grab a vice?
Some people it's drinking. Some people it's smoking. Some it's gambling. For me it's a corn dog. And the worst bit is, it's a vice that is all but directly supported by society itself. Gambling and drinking are just events that happen. Food is everywhere, big and loud and plentiful.For just 20 cents, you can add another fluid pound of sugar water. Look how cheap cheeseburgers are, just drive through and be done. No one has to see you, no one will know...
And when your body is screaming for it, you'll get emotional, lash out and snarl and your stomach twists until you give in and binge. Saying no to that after decades takes a sort of willpower that wouldn't really have allowed someone to get fat in the first place. You internalize it, you mark on how much you've failed, how your thoughts of wanting it, and knowing you can't have less, just none ever again, is painful. How much of your life revolves around food with friends, and social gatherings, and holidays, and now you have to throw it out because you know you wouldn't stop? For what tradeoff, a pound every week, maybe?
>just suffer in your own mind for two years and maybe if you did all the things right you can maybe be thinner to a weight you actually want Diets aren't fun, getting in shape has no point, and there's no active legislative social consequence for failure. If you can't find motivation, you're fucked.
Needs more vege m8, but otherwise a nice and simple approach.
Asher Carter
alright /fat/, after a few months of browsing and doing IF 16/8 splits, I'm going full Jesus for lent. One day at a time is the goal, 3 days is a milestone. A week would be a real feat for me. A true 40 day fast is the ultimate goal.
Having one last big meal day, and then tomorrow it's nothing but water and electrolytes.
See you on the other side
Logan White
I might add some broccoli or something, yeah. Fuck you for getting me thinking about micros again, I was over that.
Andrew Morales
That's interesting actually, maybe I'll give up artificial sweeteners for lent as a challenge, since its the last processed sweet thing I've been having.
Ayden Price
aw man you look great and cute! good on you user
Dylan Garcia
I never realized shrimp is so low in cal and fairly nutritious. Think i'll start subbing shrimp in for chicken every now and then. Today was a shit day, ate with friends on the weekend and then was just horribly tired at gym so nothing gained there just stayed at a medium load.
Justin Long
You give willpower too much credit and intelligence too little credit.
I also binge/emotionally eat. My solution to that was to not have things I can binge on at the house. That means no nuts, snacks, limit myself to 1 gallon of milk weekly (otherwise I naturally gravitate to 2GOMAD), etc. If I resist them 99 times but binge on the 100th, then it's still a failure.
I'd rather set myself up for success than failure.
This is why your drug analogy is a weak one. It's like knowing you have a drug addiction, but to any drug. But instead of something relatively harmless like weed, you fill your house with krokodil and crystal meth.
You spend more in one week than I do in nearly 1.5 months. But then again I'm a simple man who doesn't mind eating the same thing pretty much every day.
>When you start to think you're developing type 2 diabetes
Now THIS is fatposting.
Noah Martin
how do you guys usually cook frozen broccoli to make it something you can stomach
Luis Jenkins
Just throw it in with something else I'm eating anyway.
Caleb Gray
>My solution to that was to not have things I can binge on at the house
Yeah, but let's be real. It's not hard to drive to the store/fast food place and buy junk food. It's not hard to call your dealer when you feel like shit and know a line of coke will cheer you up. That's why I said the emotional side of binging is so tough. You feel bad and you can fix it - so you either keep feeling hungry/depressed and improve your apperance which most likely won't improve your life in any significant way unless you were super obese.
Asher Bell
I made it for the first time tonight. When I do fresh broccoli, I put it on the pan, pour some water on it so it steams, and cover in foil.
For frozen, I put it straight on the pan. It came out alright, but not quite as good. I may switch back to fresh
Jayden James
I just hate a large pizza and drank a bunch of soda and tomorrow I'll probably drink at least a bottle and a half of liquor because its my birthday. Why am I like this
Jackson Roberts
>It's not hard to drive to the store/fast food place and buy junk food
For me, combining how much of a jew I am and how much I dislike going shopping, it makes it a pretty easy to stop the binge before the going to pick up stuff happens. If its already at home, then I'm fucked sometimes. So as long as I dont shop it beforehand on my scheduled shop days, I'm basically bingeproof.
Anthony Bailey
I'm fucking addicted to fast food
How the fuck do I stop
Jacob Foster
i shouldn't have eaten all my calories so early, i'm hungry and thinking about getting fast food
Lincoln Young
Be hungry. Get used to being hungry. Hunger isn't the end of the world.
Jose Harris
Ate 2 mcdoubles and 2 mcchicken for dinner and I feel like I'm gonna die
Robert Phillips
weird,i always eat a big meal at 1pm and have a snack around 10pm
Brandon Cruz
i fucked up and ate 7 whole eggs which was like half my calories, not filling at all
Today my sister asked if I wanted anything from Dunkin Donuts. I said no, but she got a small box of donut holes for herself. I initially resisted, but after hours of staring at the box, I decided to have one. I opened the box and they were chocolate glazed instead of regular glazed. I still ate it but I was disappointed.
Nathan Torres
Less of an emotional rollercoaster and more of an emotional stalled car.
Kevin Gonzalez
cutting is fucking impossible how do you do the 18-10% body fat part
i literally cannot eat this few calories every single day for weeks into months to drop this weight
eggs, chicken, broccoli EVERY DAY? fuck off
Austin Sullivan
Congrats on the progress. Next step is to buy an iron.
Gavin Hall
You'll get used to it, bud. Or just don't eat anything. That'll cut it fairly quick.
Eli Brooks
Do i count the calories before cooking (100g= around 100kcal) Or after (100g= Around 300)? Head both of these are correct and now i am confused
